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Verbose Minch 12-15-2007 01:41 PM

Once again, Foley is god
 
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- WWE's Mick Foley and Michael "P.S." Hayes recently got into a major argument during a filming of the WWE Legends show on WWE 24/7. Not much else is known, but the argument had to do with the Vince McMahon death angle from earlier this year. Foley was adamant that the angle was in bad taste while Hayes strongly defended the angle.
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Foley was adamant that the angle was in bad taste
Fuck yes, you are the best Mick Foley ever.

The One 12-15-2007 01:43 PM

Foley saying something that quite literally hundred of thousands of other people have said before does indeed qualify him as god.

Xero 12-15-2007 01:50 PM

http://i16.tinypic.com/6b44r3q.png

lol

RVDmark 12-15-2007 02:03 PM

Quoth the Foley nevermore.....

Xero 12-15-2007 02:07 PM

I hope they got it on tape and air it.

I know they won't, but I hope they will...

Jura 12-15-2007 02:08 PM

lol at the Rock.

Kane Knight 12-15-2007 02:17 PM

A guy with a 9-11 signature applauding Foley for calling something "in poor taste." Ecks Dee at the irony.

Hanso Amore 12-15-2007 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1967122)
A guy with a 9-11 signature applauding Foley for calling something "in poor taste." Ecks Dee at the irony.

My thoughts exactly.





Any defense to that, Kettle?

Hanso Amore 12-15-2007 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The One (Post 1967061)
Foley saying something that quite literally hundred of thousands of other people have said before does indeed qualify him as god.

Once more, Agreed.


I think this tool was just looking for any reason to make a thread about how great foley is.




Foley took a shit at a Waffle House?


OHMYGODZ Foley is DA Best!

Kane Knight 12-15-2007 05:17 PM

Wait. Foley took a shit? He's my hero!

Hanso Amore 12-15-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1967256)
Wait. Foley took a shit? He's my hero!

Yeah, it was called Hardcore Diaries.

Zing!

Mr. Nerfect 12-15-2007 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 1967253)
Once more, Agreed.


I think this tool was just looking for any reason to make a thread about how great foley is.




Foley took a shit at a Waffle House?


OHMYGODZ Foley is DA Best!

Um, I like you Matthew, you know that, but shouldn't someone be looking for opportunities to praise Mick Foley?

As for this particular scenario, the angle was in bad taste. I mean, it didn't particularly offend me, and it was the first taste of the Attitude era in a long time, but it was only really interesting because of the potential. There was no real reason to do it. Michael Hayes is probably defending the angle because he's an employee of the company.

Hanso Amore 12-15-2007 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alienoid06 (Post 1967302)
Um, I like you Matthew, you know that, but shouldn't someone be looking for opportunities to praise Mick Foley?

As for this particular scenario, the angle was in bad taste. I mean, it didn't particularly offend me, and it was the first taste of the Attitude era in a long time, but it was only really interesting because of the potential. There was no real reason to do it. Michael Hayes is probably defending the angle because he's an employee of the company.

I think Foley is right, it was in poor taste.

But this is just him thinking in was stupid, like most people, I just dont see how this makes Foley god.

Praise Foley all you want, but at least have a good reason.

Kane Knight 12-15-2007 09:14 PM

Well, to be fair, how many other wrestlers have been vocal on the matter?

Skull316 12-16-2007 12:29 AM

If i'm not mistaken, wasn't everyone curious to see how it was going to turn out, talking about "potentially either the best or worst storyline of the year" up until the Benoit incident? I honestly remember everyone being interested in it until that happened a week later, then all of a sudden it was in "bad taste."

Innovator 12-16-2007 12:49 AM

Awesome, I hope they air the Roundtable, those things are the best part of 24/7

Kane Knight 12-16-2007 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Skull316 (Post 1967678)
If i'm not mistaken, wasn't everyone curious to see how it was going to turn out, talking about "potentially either the best or worst storyline of the year" up until the Benoit incident? I honestly remember everyone being interested in it until that happened a week later, then all of a sudden it was in "bad taste."

Everyone? No.

BigDaddyCool 12-16-2007 09:46 AM

If by god you mean a fat holier than thou hobo, then yes, he is "god."

Hanso Amore 12-16-2007 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MoleyPwnis (Post 1967060)
Fuck yes, you are the best Mick Foley ever.

How many other Mick Foleys are there?

Kane Knight 12-16-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 1968090)
If by god you mean a fat holier than thou hobo, then yes, he is "god."

God always looks kinda fat and hoboish in that robe and beard dealie.

And as far as Holier than thou, I mean, he is God.

So Foley meets the criteria.

BigDaddyCool 12-16-2007 09:56 AM

God doesn't dress in a hobo robe. He dresses in a I just woke up robe. Plus Foley is a flannel hobo.

Kane Knight 12-16-2007 10:16 AM

True. God hates Flannel.

BigDaddyCool 12-16-2007 10:18 AM

God is not a lumberjack, so he has no use for flannel. God is above manual labor.

Kane Knight 12-16-2007 10:29 AM

That's wwhy God made MExicans.

RVDmark 12-16-2007 10:38 AM

At the time, the angle was perfect, I'm not really sure why people think it was in poor taste. To be fair, an exploding limo isn't exactly original either.
But Kennedy getting a push and Mcmahon being off TV for a while was inviting. Benoit's death was unfortunate and tragic, but the limo came before hand. I cannot see why it is in poor taste. I have been a fan of Foley for a long while but cannot see where he is coming from on this.
I realise he is one of the few who will stand up to Vince (and the company in general) but is it really in poor taste?

Where they went with it and chopped in the biggest storyline of the year to put over a midget, who is entertaining but can't have a match I would take seriously, just seems stupid.

Roll on Shane taking the reigns of the company, can't wait.

Kane Knight 12-16-2007 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RVDmark (Post 1968124)
At the time, the angle was perfect, I'm not really sure why people think it was in poor taste. To be fair, an exploding limo isn't exactly original either.

With the commonality of death in wrestling, and the fact that two deaths followed this angle pretty closely, I think that kind of speaks for itself.

I know people say "Vince couldn't have predicted the future," But within minutes of the limo blowing up, people were already predicting a wrestling death would end it. Why? Because deaths in pro wrestling are about as hard to predict as a full moon.

So, yeah. If you can't think of a single reason people might think it was in poor taste....

Kane Knight 12-16-2007 10:51 AM

Then again, with Vince, I'm surprised he hasn't "faked his death" again yet. You know, by a WWE camera crew coming in and finding his family dead, and him hanging from a weight machine.

Kane Knight 12-16-2007 10:53 AM

Actually, I'd kind of laugh at that, but it wouldn't exactly be WITH Vinnie. :D

BigDaddyCool 12-16-2007 10:54 AM

So Vince will be winding up dead or in a coma at least twice a year.

Kane Knight 12-16-2007 11:02 AM

Actually, it'll probably become the new "Lunchtime Suicide." Every week, Vince will fake his death in an attempt to drum up ratings.

Hanso Amore 12-16-2007 11:02 AM

hey, as long as the Side Door is open and the dogs are outside, Im down with whatever.

Hanso Amore 12-16-2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1968140)
Actually, it'll probably become the new "Lunchtime Suicide." Every week, Vince will fake his death in an attempt to drum up ratings.

NOW THAT was in poor taste.

Its nearly impossible to mock suicide without coming off badly.


Suicide doesn't = Funny

In fact

Suicide is bad!

Kane Knight 12-16-2007 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 1968142)
NOW THAT was in poor taste.

Its nearly impossible to mock suicide without coming off badly.


Suicide doesn't = Funny

In fact

Suicide is bad!

You're really gonna hate the new skits then. "Hanging out with Mike Awesome."

:nono:

Xero 12-16-2007 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 1968142)
NOW THAT was in poor taste.

Its nearly impossible to mock suicide without coming off badly.


Suicide doesn't = Funny

In fact

Suicide is bad!

Chris Benoit should have committed suicide himself instead of killing his wife and kid.

While not funny, this statement would almost fall into the "good" category, what with hindsight and all.

RVDmark 12-16-2007 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1968131)
With the commonality of death in wrestling, and the fact that two deaths followed this angle pretty closely, I think that kind of speaks for itself.

I know people say "Vince couldn't have predicted the future," But within minutes of the limo blowing up, people were already predicting a wrestling death would end it. Why? Because deaths in pro wrestling are about as hard to predict as a full moon.

So, yeah. If you can't think of a single reason people might think it was in poor taste....

So its now poor taste to do a death angle on the off-chance that someone might die soon after? If it was the other way round and Benoit (or anyone) had died the week before the limo explosion then yes I agree it would haven been extremely poor taste.

Not only that but whilst there are comparitivley more deaths related to wrestling than the average, but theres an awful lot of people involved in wrestling these days. Everyone's going to die one day, me, you, everyone on this board, unfortunately punctuated by the recent untimely loss of Pepsiman (R.I.P).

If The Rock was found dead tomorrow, would that be classed as a wrestling related death? For many years he was the industry's top performer (or one of a few at the very top anyway).

You say that predicting deaths in wrestling isn't hard, can you point to one post here that predicted Benoit was even likely to be next?

Also its not like any of the deaths in wrestling have been limousine or bomb related (AFAIK). Its a storyline, please can the world learn how to seperate fiction from reality, death happens, its not nice, but it does.

RVDmark 12-16-2007 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 1967122)
A guy with a 9-11 signature applauding Foley for calling something "in poor taste." Ecks Dee at the irony.

Although this I have to agree with.

Hanso Amore 12-16-2007 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RVDmark (Post 1968151)
So its now poor taste to do a death angle on the off-chance that someone might die soon after? If it was the other way round and Benoit (or anyone) had died the week before the limo explosion then yes I agree it would haven been extremely poor taste.

Not only that but whilst there are comparitivley more deaths related to wrestling than the average, but theres an awful lot of people involved in wrestling these days. Everyone's going to die one day, me, you, everyone on this board, unfortunately punctuated by the recent untimely loss of Pepsiman (R.I.P).

If The Rock was found dead tomorrow, would that be classed as a wrestling related death? For many years he was the industry's top performer (or one of a few at the very top anyway).

You say that predicting deaths in wrestling isn't hard, can you point to one post here that predicted Benoit was even likely to be next?

Also its not like any of the deaths in wrestling have been limousine or bomb related (AFAIK). Its a storyline, please can the world learn how to seperate fiction from reality, death happens, its not nice, but it does.

Death should never be used. Whether Benoit happened or not, a death storyline is somwhat pushing it.

Hanso Amore 12-16-2007 11:37 AM

Death is acceptable on shows like Desperate Housewives, everyone knows its fake, and its not marketed at kids.

Wrestling falls into a weird area. We know its fake, but it is supposed to be real, and most of its fans are kids.

RVDmark 12-16-2007 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 1968154)
Death should never be used. Whether Benoit happened or not, a death storyline is somwhat pushing it.

Whatever you do don't ever watch a soap opera will you, or a film. Many of these will involve death angles, also no-one forced any of them to become wrestlers, getting into the business through WWE is possibly one of the hardest things to do.

Its death, it happens, it WILL happen to you one day, the same as it WILL happen to me one day. As I said, not my favorite fact, but true none the less.

RVDmark 12-16-2007 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 1968157)
Death is acceptable on shows like Desperate Housewives, everyone knows its fake, and its not marketed at kids.

Wrestling falls into a weird area. We know its fake, but it is supposed to be real, and most of its fans are kids.

I'm sorry, but as a collective we bitch about the world thinking that wrestling is entirely fake. Ask most people whether wrestling is fake or not and they will laugh and say 'of course its fake'. The fact that it is marketed at kids is what is in poor taste, the same as them marketing sex angles at kids is in poor taste.


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