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Tb1 12-29-2007 11:30 PM

Seinfeld vs. The Office
 
Now I understand they're both almost completely different, but the line must be drawn here. This far, and no further!

Everyday now, I get in these tedious never-ending arguments with my friend over which is better. I can't stand another day. So I'm turning to the TPWW Alumni for a little assistance.










HELP

Skippord 12-29-2007 11:37 PM

Seinfeld, mostly because The Office sucks

weather vane 12-30-2007 12:57 AM

The Office is unreal but come on.

ron the dial 12-30-2007 01:01 AM

how you gonna rip it like this son?

Fignuts 12-30-2007 01:13 AM

I have never had a good laugh at the office. It makes me chuckle quite often, but never the uprorious laughter I got from seinfeld.

MVP 12-30-2007 01:23 AM

I love The Office, but Seinfeld is an all-time great.

You are talking about the US version right? Cause the UK version sucks.

Blitz 12-30-2007 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 1982497)
I love The Office, but Seinfeld is an all-time great.

You are talking about the US version right? Cause the UK version <s>sucks</s> is the greatest show in the history of TV.


ron the dial 12-30-2007 01:39 AM

gervais is the only thing on the uk version that i find as entertaining (if not more so) than what's on the american version.

PapaGeorgio 12-30-2007 02:00 AM

UK version was to short to go over Seinfeld and all it's greatness. US Office is to early into the show to tell right now. In conclusion, I pick The Larry Sanders Show.

Tb1 12-30-2007 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 1982482)
I have never had a good laugh at the office. It makes me chuckle quite often, but never the uprorious laughter I got from seinfeld.


Fox 12-30-2007 01:15 PM

It's hard for me to judge them in the same category. I know they're both technically "sit-coms," but The Office is so different than any other TV show with the "realistic" feel that they give to it. Seinfeld is clearly a sit-com, laugh track and all.

I agree that its too early to tell. I can't see The Office doing Nine Seasons of pure awesomeness the way Seinfeld did, but who knows.

Judging Office Seasons 1-3 against Seinfeld Seasons 1-3, I'd have to give Office the slight nudge. Michael Scott > George Costanza, Jim Halpert > Jerry, and Dwight Shrute > Kramer gives them the unanimous decision for me.

RBM 12-30-2007 01:34 PM

The Office. Seinfeld was great, but the Office is something I personally try not missing new episodes which I usually dont do with comedies.

Dwight Shrute is god. I live right near Scranton and love hearing all the little northeastern Pennsylvania references. Crystal Club cola is awesome.

Not to mention all the DVD extras they pack into the boxsets. They have enough unused material for each episode that is just as good as what they chose to show that they could easily have made this show an hour long each ep if they wanted to.

el fregadero 12-30-2007 01:55 PM

Seinfeld for now, but it's really tough as The Office is a laugh riot. If it keeps it up though, I can definitely see myself giving it the nudge. I also agree with the ridiculous amount of top quality deleted scenes on the DVDs, which are typically funnier than any other current show on tv.

And for the record, George Costanza is not "<" Michael Scott, as he is the greatest character in the history of situational comedy.

CSL 12-30-2007 01:58 PM

Office (UK) >>>>>> Seinfeld > Office (US)

Kris P Lettus 12-30-2007 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBM (Post 1982868)
The Office. Seinfeld was great, but the Office is something I personally try not missing new episodes which I usually dont do with comedies.

Dwight Shrute is god. I live right near Scranton and love hearing all the little northeastern Pennsylvania references. Crystal Club cola is awesome.

Not to mention all the DVD extras they pack into the boxsets. They have enough unused material for each episode that is just as good as what they chose to show that they could easily have made this show an hour long each ep if they wanted to.

Everything he said other than the fact I don't live near Scranton..

The Office is my favorite primetime sitcom ever.. Better the All in the Family, Simpsons, My Two Dads, Married With Children, Head of the Class, Fresh Prince, Seinfield , whatever..

Best sitcom ever..

D Mac 12-30-2007 04:14 PM

Nothing will ever be better then Seinfeld. Nothing.

Kris P Lettus 12-30-2007 04:20 PM

Except alot of things..

D Mac 12-30-2007 04:21 PM

No :mad:

D Mac 12-30-2007 04:31 PM

Although Tina Fey is like fucking fine. :drool:

Rob 12-30-2007 06:49 PM

Seinfeld is fucking leagues above both versions of The Office.

Zen v.W.o. 01-06-2008 03:10 AM

The only thing that compares to seinfeld is curb, and it's no coincidence as to why.

Fox 01-06-2008 12:25 PM

I've found Curb to be rather hit or miss. That and I have to be in a certain mood to want to watch and enjoy it. Seinfeld and Office are always good for a run.

Jon Kano 01-06-2008 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 1982497)
Cause the UK version sucks.

You are such a fuckin moron. Not to mention flat-out wrong.

Americans just can't get the humour, they tried to mimmick it, but they couldn't get it, which meant they couldn't write or act it, so out came this churned up piece of shit which your all really proud of while the rest of the world laughs at you for it NOW THATS WHAT I CALL COMEDY

Kris P Lettus 01-06-2008 11:15 PM

K3

Fox 01-06-2008 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Kano (Post 1991575)
You are such a fuckin moron. Not to mention flat-out wrong.

Americans just can't get the humour, they tried to mimmick it, but they couldn't get it, which meant they couldn't write or act it, so out came this churned up piece of shit which your all really proud of while the rest of the world laughs at you for it NOW THATS WHAT I CALL COMEDY

Okay, it's his opinion that the UK Office sucks. That does not make him a "fuckin moron."

And although I agree with you that Ricky Gervais and that both seasons of UK Office are excellent, they are vastly overrated by most people and Brits in general. Look, it's great that something funny has come out of the UK that ISN'T Monty Python, and yes, the show is hilarious, but it's still just a TV show and it's not even flawless.

The American Office is equally funny as the UK version, and is far, far more endearing and is actually able to stir up emotions in its viewers other than laughter. The characters in the U.S. version like the temp Ryan Howard, Jan Levinson, Creed Bratton, and even Kelly are interesting characters and ones that the UK version never explored to the extent that this version has. There are far more levels of depth to the American version than there is to the UK version.

Pinnacle Charisma 01-07-2008 09:53 PM

I used to be one of those who first watched the uk version of the office but then watched a couple of eps of the us version and thought the uk was miles better.


But after watching more of the us i have to say that that they are about equal. The uk was brillant and the us is funny in its own way too.

The major difference between both shows is the uks "tim" character Martin Freeman is far better than John Krasinski pitful character

Jon Kano 01-08-2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 1991917)
Okay, it's his opinion that the UK Office sucks. That does not make him a "fuckin moron."

Well if its his opinion blah blah blah and his opinion is his opinion so thats that then in that case, it is my humble and non-shifting opinion that whoever says the US version is better than the UK version, then they are, in my opinion, indeed a FUCKIN MORON. End of.

And I can assure you, there are millions of others who would agree with what I just said.

Kris P Lettus 01-08-2008 02:40 PM

To be fair, there'd be millions to disagree also, Kano..

K2

Jon Kano 01-08-2008 02:49 PM

Hmmmmm I don't think so fuckhead. So how is the bloated penguin? still crashing her shitmobile into passing cars? one can only hope.

Stickman 01-08-2008 03:42 PM

Seinfeld, there's no debate.

Jon Kano 01-08-2008 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 1994022)
To be fair, there'd be millions to disagree also, Kano..

K2

Millions? fuck off you fuckin idiot.

To be fair, I am fuckin outraged and disgusted at the fact that they will both be compared to each other. The Office US is something I really hate America for. Granted its just a TV show, but in some alternate Jon Kano ruled reality, your country would be burning right now.

Pinnacle Charisma 01-09-2008 12:54 AM

This is realy shit i am sick of these uk vs us office debates. They are both really great shows and more importantily they are very different too. Apart from the tim/dawn, jim/pam relationship and some minor simmilairties between the brent/scott role they are two different beasts. Take off your rose coloured glasses and enjoy both shows for what they are two really well written funny shows.

NeanderCarl 02-14-2008 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 1991917)
The American Office is equally funny as the UK version, and is far, far more endearing and is actually able to stir up emotions in its viewers other than laughter. The characters in the U.S. version like the temp Ryan Howard, Jan Levinson, Creed Bratton, and even Kelly are interesting characters and ones that the UK version never explored to the extent that this version has. There are far more levels of depth to the American version than there is to the UK version.

Firstly, it is based on the same scripts and characters. The US version offers nothing the UK version didn't. The reason some of the lesser characters are explored further is simply because with the length of US TV seasons, they probably used up all the British scripts in season one. Also, the UK version nailed the joke spot on within 14 episodes. They came, they made their brilliantly observed point, and the writers moved on to a new topic.

Dragging TV shows years past their sell-by-dates and squeezing every little last drop of marketability out of them isn't something British TV tends to share with the US.

For example, Life On Mars. Possibly the best British drama show since the turn of the century. Two seasons of 8 episodes each, came in like a lion, went out still in its prime, forever remembered as a great show. On the other side of the pond, you have 24... for the last couple of years, each season progressively worse than the last. Even though I still enjoy it, and Jack Bauer is one of US TV's greatest characters ever, it will continue, and continue, and continye until it becomes a stale shadow of it's former glory, or worse, a lame parody of itself. Same goes for the likes of Lost.

NeanderCarl 02-14-2008 10:11 PM

For the record.... Seinfeld > UK Office > US Office

Heros Welcome 02-14-2008 10:17 PM

SEINFELD in a landslide

Avenger 02-14-2008 11:23 PM

Seinfeld is the best thing ever.

Kris P Lettus 02-17-2008 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeanderCarl (Post 2047778)
Firstly, it is based on the same scripts and characters. The US version offers nothing the UK version didn't. The reason some of the lesser characters are explored further is simply because with the length of US TV seasons, they probably used up all the British scripts in season one. Also, the UK version nailed the joke spot on within 14 episodes. They came, they made their brilliantly observed point, and the writers moved on to a new topic.

Firstly, the pilot is the ONLY script that was shared by both shows.. From the second episode on they share some of the same storylines but that is only because they are based on the same characters which were setup to play out certain storylines.. Jim vs Dwight/Tim vs Gareth, love intrests etc..

You'd prolly know that had you actually watched both show before forming an opinion blindly..

Anyway, you see more of the "lesser characters" on the US Office because three of them are writers on the show..

Mindy Kaling - Kelly Kapoor
BJ Novak - Ryan "The Temp" Howard
Paul Lieberstein - Toby Flenderson

Not hard guys, Brits are gonna like their Office better while Americans are gonna like ours better.. Doesn't mean the other is bad, by any means..

p.s. what do you mean they moved on?? Nailed what joke?? I don't understand..

RBM 02-17-2008 02:42 PM

A portion of an interview with Ricky Gervais.


Are you pleased with the way the American version of The Office has evolved into its own show?


It's my favorite sitcom. You try to make shows that you want to watch. I did with The Office, I'm doing it now with Extras. It's the show you wish someone else had made, but I had to make it. With the American Office, it's the best of both worlds because someone else made it, and it's just how I wanted it. So it's a joy. It's exactly how I'd want something, but I didn't have to make it. I can say this because I genuinely regard the American Office as someone else's work. It's audacious, it's wickedly funny. The cast are amazing. Steve Carell is just going to take over the world. I salute all those involved and NBC for not panicking. I'm so glad they stuck to their guns. It was uncompromising, and it got better and better. And the more they went their own way, the better it got. So I can't praise them enough. But I get the money. Well, I get what's left. I say, ''Just give me what you can.''

The Gold Standard 02-17-2008 03:04 PM

This is a no contest. Seinfeld is one of the greatest shows ever on TV.

NeanderCarl 02-17-2008 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2050406)
You'd prolly know that had you actually watched both show before forming an opinion blindly..

Not hard guys, Brits are gonna like their Office better while Americans are gonna like ours better.. Doesn't mean the other is bad, by any means..

p.s. what do you mean they moved on?? Nailed what joke?? I don't understand..

I have watched both. I think I've seen every episode of both versions.

I didn't say US Office was bad.

They made their point and moved onto other projects, rather than milk the Office dry. Rather than dilute it, they ended it on a high. The US version will probably drag on for years, never really doing anything new or evolving.


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