Tough Enough 4 Real
 

Who do you think was/is the most legitimately tough wrestler of all time?
It could be any number of people but I'm gonna say Paul Orndorff.

Vader, the man had his eye knocked out of his skull 7 minutes into a 15 minute match. He just put it back in and went with it. Nothing like him.

You forgot about the part where he stopped and ate a twinkie.

Twinkies are the manliest food known in the universe.

Aside from 8 foot long subs.

Yeah, but everyone knows that.

Meng

Destor knows.

Vader sounds pretty fucking tough. Stu Hart apparently did some crazy shit in his life, too.

Tracey Smothers wrestled a fucking bear, FFS!

Did he actually? That is what I also heard about Stu Hart. And Conan O'Brien.

Freddie Blassie wrestled a bear as well twice

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Love that video. The bear refused to job though.

What about mick foley?

He's a glorified stuntman.

*hides from inevitable flaming*

yeah but still, he has taken alot of punishment. Such as losing half is ear, gettign a tooth stuck up his nose during the match..etc.

He takes punishment, but by his own admission, offense isn't his strong point.
If you were going to say that taking punishment was a strong quality for a tough guy, then Bruiser Brody would be top of that list because he also had an awesome arsenal of stiff offensive moves.

True, but toughness i relate to endurance so thats where im coming from. Its not how hard you can hit, but how hard you can take getting hit, a quote i remember from somewhere, not sure where!

I dunno, maybe I just lost a lot of trust in Foley after the Boiler-room Brawl at Backlash 1999.

I was convinced that the blood and the broken glass were real and argued with my brother that it was until I was blue in the face. He was laughing and thought that I was so naive to believe that it wasn't fake, and I spent a good thirty minutes explaining the type of matches Foley has and the type of man that he is.

Then I read Foley's 2nd book, and found out that it was fake. It was all fake - the broken glass, the blood, everything. I felt cheated and humiliated and since then I've thought less of Foley.

You mean that shit that i mentioned was fake also? dissapointed to hear that if so, no wonder ppl boo him now.

Don't forget at this point, Foley's career was slowing down and the majority of his appeal was that he was a tough SOB who took abuse after abuse and kept coming back for more. His match against HHH at the Rumble and the Rock the year before was basically an exhibition of the guy getting whipped.

Don't get me wrong. I'd rather Foley hadn't gone all-out in matches he didn't need to. I'd rather have seen him round for a couple more years rather than brutalise himself in needless ways that shortened his career. But when you push yourself in a certain way, and then fool everyone and make them feel like a dumbass for believing it, then there's bound to be some backlash.

Well then you gotta say to that, this is wrestling, it is fake anyway, etc.

Yeh, which is why it pissed me off when you had a guy like Foley come out and make you believe his shit was real. All those death-match clips, all those sicks bumps and promos in which he advertised his own toughness and then spray a bit of fake blood around when you've finally got everyone's attention.

Ok fair enough.

Dammit, I'm not finished yet. FUCK YOU FOLEY! Fuck you for making me belive in you! I'm not buying your next book regardless of how much you turn up on Raw sprouting your cheap-pop catchphrases and half-assing your way through another retirement match and going back on that little whore speech you gave a NWO 2000. Fuck you!

....ahhhhhh! :D

he was a good entertainer tho...:p

I'm pretty sure the answer to this question is Hardcore Holly. He's hardcore, you know.

Harley Race.

Thread Over.

Meng/Haku bites peoples noses off

and thats way fucking tough

New Jack obviously. :roll:

Why is Terry Funk not on this thread yet?

As for Vader, Paul Orndorff kicked his ass in WCW

As for tough, I guess that means who will keep going after taking a pounding, rather than who can handle themselves best.

I'd give Tommy Dreamer a shout, he carried on with a busted Nut Sack for god's sake!

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