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Blitz 02-07-2008 04:26 AM

Official Guitar Hero IV Thread
 
Well, it hasn't even been formally announced yet, but apparently one song is already in.

http://www.destructoid.com/one-new-s...iv-68978.phtml

Quote:

The band The Answer released a press statement today declaring that one of their songs, "Never Too Late", will be appearing in Guitar Hero IV. They also stated that Guitar Hero IV would be coming out at the end of this year:
Yeah so. Speculation, wishlists, etc.. Post 'em till we have some more info.

El Fangel 02-07-2008 04:32 AM

:drool:

I hope its not PS3+

Also that song sounds like it is going to be on the bonus tracks, sounds like a decent challenge.

I really need more Metallica, and for christs sake I need Megadeth.

El Fangel 02-07-2008 04:36 AM

Wishlist

Fade To Black - Metallica
Master of Puppets - Metallica
Im Broken - Pantera
The Only - Static X
Headstrong - Trapt

DREAM THEATRE!!!!!!!!!11111111

Destor 02-07-2008 05:21 AM

I can't understand why the would make another GH. With Rock Band you can do EVERYTHING you can do in GH, right? If so why make another? Isn't just going to be inferior to Rock Band? Why not move the focus entierly to Rockband? Furthermore once you have downloadable content why do you need a new disk at all? It's just new track, just charge a good some for em and you'll probably make MORE money. Whatever I guess.

Blitz 02-07-2008 05:29 AM

A) It's 2 different companies who make Rock Band and GH
B) GH is geared more towards hardcore players, RB is more of a party game
C) Because people will buy new disks

Destor 02-07-2008 05:34 AM

I thought Harmonix made both GH and RB?

Destor 02-07-2008 05:35 AM

After doing some research yes they do.

Destor 02-07-2008 05:36 AM

and to the point of RB being more of party game you can play single player if you so choose with the same level of difficulty, can you not?

Blitz 02-07-2008 05:44 AM

Harmonix made the first 2 GH games (Well, Rock The 80s as well). But they were bought by MTV, and made Rock Band. GH's publisher, Red Octane, which still owned the GH license, gave Neversoft the development duties on GH3.

So, GH1, 2, and Rock The 80s were published by Red Octane and developed by Harmonix. Rock Band was published by MTV Games and developed by Harmonix, and GH3 was published by Red Octane and developed by Neversoft. Different companies.

And what I mean by party game is that Rock Band is much easier, and thus more suited as a party game for people to pick up and play. GH3 is WAY harder.

Destor 02-07-2008 05:51 AM

I didn't know any of that. :y:

I still stand by the fact that I think they stand to make more money by going to strictly to down loadable content. Cutting out the cost of disks alone would save a bundle. Factor in charging by a song by song basis and you have a much more productive structure.

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What Would Kevin Do? 02-07-2008 05:55 AM

If GH continues it's trend of crappy songs, I won't care. I'm sorry, but IMO, the tracklist in 3 was awful.

Tornado 02-07-2008 06:02 AM

I would wish for half of the note charts not to suck balls.

U-Warrior 02-07-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2037558)
I didn't know any of that. :y:

I still stand by the fact that I think they stand to make more money by going to strictly to down loadable content. Cutting out the cost of disks alone would save a bundle. Factor in charging by a song by song basis and you have a much more productive structure.

Yeah, but DLC adds up over time, and ends up taking a LOT of hard drive space. Between RB and the GH games, I have whole gigabytes taken up by dlc. Would prefer a GH IV disc rather than them releasing all the songs as dlc and filling my hd.

Kane Knight 02-07-2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2037558)
I didn't know any of that. :y:

I still stand by the fact that I think they stand to make more money by going to strictly to down loadable content. Cutting out the cost of disks alone would save a bundle. Factor in charging by a song by song basis and you have a much more productive structure.

People will blindly buy the discs, which is a plus, not to mention DLC won't get them on the software charts, which is incredibly desirable.

Though DLC has a lot more profit for them.

Shaggy 02-07-2008 02:53 PM

Anything Metallica would be good..

Hell they are making 4 GH games this year...One of them is Aerosmith...One is GH4 and the other two are unnamed...I would love for one of them to be Metallica


Maybe some Bowie.... "Dance Magic Dance" :shifty:

Disturbed316 02-07-2008 06:02 PM

Dunno if I'd actually get this, unless the tracklist really appealed to me. I'm getting abit burned out of the series.

Oh and if Dance Magic Dance gets in, Magic Baby has got to aswell :shifty:

Kalyx triaD 02-07-2008 09:47 PM

GH3 has a great list, I'm more interested in what features they're gonna add. GH3 and RB aren't the same kind of game, but there's no denying a sense of rivalry between the two. I'm wondering if RB's gameplay will have Neversoft add some new gameplay types like the better-than-I-thought Battle Mode.

D Mac 02-08-2008 02:54 AM

If they come out with a Metallica version I will cream myself. :drool:

El Fangel 02-08-2008 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2037558)
I didn't know any of that. :y:

I still stand by the fact that I think they stand to make more money by going to strictly to down loadable content. Cutting out the cost of disks alone would save a bundle. Factor in charging by a song by song basis and you have a much more productive structure.

That would be really awesome, have a wide variety to please everyone. At $1 a song, that would make millions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 2037560)
If GH continues it's trend of crappy songs, I won't care. I'm sorry, but IMO, the tracklist in 3 was awful.

One, Before I Forget, Raining Blood, Paranoid, Number of The Beast, Welcome to The Jungle and Take This Life out of 70 songs is kinda bad. (Those are the ones I like)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Mac (Post 2038916)
If they come out with a Metallica version I will cream myself. :drool:

They need a Metal Version

With

Metallica
Slayer
Megadeth
Anthrax
Dream Theatre

Im sure you could add more.

Oh DM, Check out Nunders Iron Fucking Maiden thread, tell me what you would think about the super-dream concert I posted.

Dave Youell 02-08-2008 04:28 AM

What i'd really like is some sort of master disc with the previous games on it, the first GH i own is for the Wii, therefore I am missing out.

DaveWadding 02-08-2008 01:21 PM

Eagles - Hotel California
Derek & the Dominos - Layla

going to ask for these every year

Kane Knight 02-08-2008 01:42 PM

They just need better songlists and note charts that are fun to play.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-08-2008 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2039371)
They just need better songlists and note charts that are fun to play.

Exactly. I don't mind if the charts are challenging, but make sure they're fun too. Some of the note charts in 3 are like "Ugh, I don't like the song, and the chart is a pain in the ass... Why would I ever play this again?"

Kalyx triaD 02-08-2008 02:45 PM

...The Metal...

Kane Knight 02-08-2008 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 2039387)
Exactly. I don't mind if the charts are challenging, but make sure they're fun too. Some of the note charts in 3 are like "Ugh, I don't like the song, and the chart is a pain in the ass... Why would I ever play this again?"

Word.

If the notechart is fun, I will play it, even if it's hard, and even if I'm not big on the song. GH3 felt like a chore a lot of the time, which is why I've barely touched it since Rock Band came out. I'm not trying to directly compare them, since Rock Band's supposed to be more accessible, but still....

U-Warrior 02-08-2008 08:59 PM

To GH3's credit, the last two dlc packs have had really fun notecharts imo. Maybe not at harmonix's level yet, but it looks like neversoft is getting better.

U-Warrior 02-08-2008 09:01 PM

excluding linkin park, but that has more to do with the fact that they chose linkin park. Not the best band for guitar hero.

El Fangel 02-09-2008 01:07 AM

Im sure the dudes at RedOctane, and Activision had this planned all alone

Lead Designer: How about a 50000 Note song, that is brutally difficult, and almost impossible to perfect.

Cronie: Well to drive people insane we need a annoying band to take the song from

All:.............DRAGONFORCE

and violen!

Inadequacy 02-11-2008 02:03 PM

I know it will never happen, but I'd like a future guitar hero game to have a boss battle against Eric Melvin

Kane Knight 02-11-2008 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-Warrior (Post 2039783)
excluding linkin park, but that has more to do with the fact that they chose linkin park. Not the best band for guitar hero.

Yeah, I don't get that as a choice for Guitar Hero. It has nothing to do with them being good or bad, just so...Wrong for the game.

D Mac 02-11-2008 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inadequacy (Post 2042942)
I know it will never happen, but I'd like a future guitar hero game to have a boss battle against Kirk Hammett


darkpower 02-13-2008 05:28 PM

Somehow, I still see them considering a country edition of GH, seeing as how we're seeing alot of this "rock country" crossover stuff going on. I would be kind of curious of that, actually. Could get some new fans if they do that ("yeah, man. Some moonshine, a CD of Bush's best speeches, and some Guitar Hero! WHAT A LIFE I HAVE!!"....no, that was not something I would say).

But I just got into the series, so I'm one of those people that will be really awaiting a new full GH game, whatever it is. Really, the only thing that Activision did wrong is that they should change the star meter graphic back to what it was (I played GH3 before the original one, and the originals star power bar was way more telling of how much you had compared to 3's light bulb thing). 3 was very challenging, but maybe more challenging than it had to be. Outside of those three things, they didn't do that bad of a job (Activision has a reputation to uphold, IMO, since they have a HUGE history going back to the 2600. Hopefully that's not lost on them now). The "practice" mode was an excellent idea, though, since it could be just one part that fucks everything up for you. Hopefully they keep that in (makes it look more realistic, too).

A feature I would like to see is something that Rock Band did, where at certain points, you can "switch up" the notes to make it sound more interesting, or a "big finish" where you could just go wild with the note playing, but you would have to strum a certain note at the end to get the biggest points out of it (or make a new "live band" mode that will allow you to do stuff like that). Also, why is the "tuning up the guitar tutorial" even IN the game if you never have to do it (I never seen any difference)?
Either require it or take it out of the tutorial altogether.

One song I can see them adding: Aerosmith's Dream On. Want to play that one.

RP 02-13-2008 05:54 PM

I wanna see some Alkaline Trio added.

Sepholio 02-13-2008 06:36 PM

Kalyx tried to destroy the Metal, which Jack Black had already dooooonnnneeee

FakeLaser 02-13-2008 06:47 PM

Wishlist:
The Sound of Animals Fighting - Act I: Chasing Suns (good luck beating this one)
Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb
Sonic Youth - 'Cross the Breeze
Led Zeppelin - Since I've Been Loving You
Jimi Hendrix - Purple Haze
Radiohead - Airbag
David Bowie - Moonage Daydream
The Mars Volta - Eriatarka
Joy Division - Shadowplay
Bloc Party - Luno
Pretty Girls Make Graves - All Medicated Geniuses
Buzzcocks - Ever Fallen In Love?
Frank Black - Los Angeles
Pixies - Cecilia Ann
Archers of Loaf - South Carolina
Dinosaur Jr. - Out There
Iggy Pop - Sixteen
Incubus - Sick Sad Little World
Interpol - Pioneer To The Falls
Iron Maiden - The Trooper
Karate - Ice Or Ground
Lighting Bolt - Bizarro Zarro Land (good luck beating this one)
Minus The Bear - Double Vision Quest
Pelican - City of Labels
Muse - New Born
Nirvana - Aneurysm
Pavement - Fillmore Jive
Smashing Pumpkins - Zero
Sunny Day Real Estate - Grendel
Superchunk - Slack Motherfucker
Velvet Underground - I Heard Her Call My Name
Thrice - Deadbolt
Thursday - Autobiography of a Nation
Tool - Sober

Azriel 02-13-2008 10:50 PM

^+1 on Comfortably Numb. Be even cooler if they could have the live version with the extended outro. Maybe even put Stairway on there.

Blitz 02-13-2008 10:57 PM

Sober would be my most wanted song. Or maybe Hotel California.

darkpower 02-14-2008 01:06 AM

Got something else that I think they could add to it.

We all know of the five star reviews being the best you can do, but what if you could get something extra special as a bonus for getting a 100% note hit rate (as in, if you can hit EVERY SINGLE NOTE in the note chart in a particular song). Like a free unlockable or something like that in Career. I'm sure there's been a few people that have been able to hit every note in a song (I have on occasion). Since it's VERY hard to keep up a streak for so long, they should give a special reward for doing something like that.

El Fangel 02-14-2008 01:09 AM

Sober is wayyyyyyyyy up there for me.

I would like to see my favorite song on there though

The Only - Static-X


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