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Mr. Nerfect 02-27-2008 04:28 PM

Money in the Bank Discussion *Seventh Entrant Added*
 
Wow, I'm actually really looking forward to it this year. I mean, don't get me wrong, the match is always some good fun, but this year it seems like everyone is a potential highlight of the match. No "filler" entries yet.

I'm quite curious as to who the WWE will put over. Mr. Kennedy laying out John Cena after the main event actually surprised the hell out of me. It's not something the WWE usually lets happen to their golden child.

We still only have half the match confirmed (I believe it is going to be eight again this year). JR did rattle off the traditional number of six participants, but since when has he known what he is talking about? Not for a few years. Assuming we get eight, I think we'll see CM Punk, Chavo Guerrero and Kane added to the match, which leaves one spot left over.

I'd love for Jamie Noble or Paul Burchill to get into the match, but the biggest name to insert would probably be Elijah Burke, as he has sort of main evented (to some degree) before, and fits in with Shelton Benjamin and CM Punk these days. This would mean three guys from the ECW brand, though. Chavo Guerrero is technically with SmackDown!, but he is the ECW Champion, so kind of make it four.

Another option is that we get a shitty Santino Marella vs. Jerry Lawler match at WrestleMania, and Carlito will be free to compete in Money in the Bank. He was the guy who suggested the return of the match for WrestleMania 22 in storylines, I believe, so he would sort of fit. It also adds a fourth RAW guy to the match, which is much more likely than four ECW guys. Like Elijah Burke, Carlito has also main evented to some degree before.

So yeah, how is everyone feeling about how the match is shaping up? Who does everyone think will win? Who should win? Who else should fill the match?

Jordan 02-27-2008 05:22 PM

I think it would be great to see... Jeff Hardy vs Kennedy vs Shelton Benjamin vs Chris Jericho vs MVP vs Matt Hardy vs Kane vs The Great Khali

I know Khali isn't an ideal choice for a ladder match but he could be responsible for some cool spots and then get injured early like Edge last year.

Johnny Vegas 02-27-2008 05:22 PM

Jeff Hardy needs to win this match so that he can win the title later. The guy is one of the, if not, THE most over guy in the company and the WWE doesn't need to let this pass like they did RVD. Even if it isn't a long reign, i'm sure that people will appreciate it, kind of like Benoit's title win. It will be one of those 'moments'. If anybody other than Hardy is going to win it then it should be CM Punk. Get SOMEBODY over that hump and Kennedy doesn't really need the win. He won it last year, and with the right push, he can be in the main event. Idk what the WWE is waiting for with him. Put him in a 3-month or so fued with Y2J or face turn with JBL. JBL can make anyone look like they need to whoop his (JBL) ass.

St. Jimmy 02-27-2008 07:30 PM

Jeff Hardy will win it, he'll cash his shot against Cena and win. He'll be a transitional champion at best before losing it back to Cena so the Cena/HHH Fued can happen and Trips can go over clean at SummerSlam.

Testicle 02-27-2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 2062834)
Jeff Hardy will win it, he'll cash his shot against Cena and win. He'll be a transitional champion at best before losing it back to Cena so the Cena/HHH Fued can happen and Trips can go over clean at SummerSlam.

You gotta love how the most over guy in the company would simply be a 'transitional champion.'

St. Jimmy 02-27-2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Test4champ (Post 2062869)
You gotta love how the most over guy in the company would simply be a 'transitional champion.'

http://z.about.com/d/prowrestling/1/0/0/5/-/-/rvd.jpg

Kane Knight 02-27-2008 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Test4champ (Post 2062869)
You gotta love how the most over guy in the company would simply be a 'transitional champion.'

Half the time, the most over guys in the company aren't even in queue for contendership. I'm not sure why this would be any different. :D

Mr. JL 02-27-2008 08:24 PM

RVD forced himself into transitional champ material when he got busted with marijuna.

Mr. Pierre 02-27-2008 09:09 PM

I wouldn't have guaranteed it, but I was almost positive he was going to lose the WWE title to Edge at SNME two weeks after the drug bust anyway.

Not sure how long he would have held the ECW title though.

Jeritron 02-27-2008 09:25 PM

Jeff should win and cash it in for Summerslam. A Cena/Hardy main event was a missed oppurtunity for mania, but using it for Summerslam is the next best thing

Testicle 02-27-2008 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2062935)
Jeff should win and cash it in for Summerslam. A Cena/Hardy main event was a missed oppurtunity for mania, but using it for Summerslam is the next best thing

Agreed. But, unfortunatly it will never happen as Trips would have to be on the undercard and that is simply unacceptable.

El Fangel 02-27-2008 11:34 PM

[color="silver"] Is the Matt Hardy/MVP match confirmed for Wrestlemania? [/colro]

El Fangel 02-27-2008 11:34 PM

Is the Matt Hardy/MVP match confirmed for Wrestlemania?

Londoner 02-28-2008 08:51 AM

Not yet i don't think.

Tommy Gunn 02-29-2008 10:01 AM

Matt Hardy needs to stop sandbaggin it and come back from his... Uh... near death.

Johnny Vegas 02-29-2008 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2062935)
Jeff should win and cash it in for Summerslam. A Cena/Hardy main event was a missed oppurtunity for mania, but using it for Summerslam is the next best thing

:y:

But like someone said before, if HHH is not in the ME then its not going to "go over". Man, if anything HHH should be in like a #1 Contenders match with someone and let Cena/Hardy happen. That shit should be built up like they did Orton/Hardy. The whole "3rd time's a charm" thing with Hardy. HHH should be at the point now where he should be helping elevate guys while being a heel.

I think that there should be maybe two people switched from RAW to SD! and vice versa. Just to freshen things up with HHH b/c he's faced just about everybody on there already.

NeanderCarl 02-29-2008 03:16 PM

I don't want to see Kane in the MITB. It seems the IWC has a hard on for Kane, and I don't dislike him, but he won't add anything to the match.

Aditionally, I'm expecting Chavo vs CM Punk at Mania, so I doubt they will be in the ladder match.

I wouldn't mind seeing Tommy Dreamer in there, though, even if he has no chance of winning whatsoever.

GD 02-29-2008 03:16 PM

Kennedy is gonna superman that briefcase.

Heyman 02-29-2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 2062834)
Jeff Hardy will win it, he'll cash his shot against Cena and win. He'll be a transitional champion at best before losing it back to Cena so the Cena/HHH Fued can happen and Trips can go over clean at SummerSlam.

I agree with the above comment for the most part.

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2008 12:57 AM

Jeff Hardy is my pick to win it, from a "what I think will happen" standpoint, but I'm not sure if he needs to. The guy is still perpetually over. I think Jeff would get just as over killing Mr. Kennedy with an insane Swanton Bomb, or something of the like. Jeff can then feud with whoever he kills, and go over them at Backlash. Hell, a change of brands would do the guy wonders. There's no reason why Jeff can't take the ECW Title off Chavo Guerrero. Some might see it as a step down, but I'd love to see it.

Personally, I think Chris Jericho winning would be the best route to go. Many might not think that he needs it, but the guy's returned was botched pretty badly. They brought him back right before the Road to WrestleMania started, and yeah. It just hasn't seemed as epic as it should have. A Jericho MITB win would hopefully remind everyone of just who he is.

If Hardy does win the MITB, which would be a good bet, I'm actually hoping he goes over to SmackDown!, and challenges The Undertaker for the World Heavyweight Championship. Jeff is at the stage where he could be the top face for the brand, and Taker might actually consider losing to Jeff this time. Another Ladder Match between the two where Jeff wins the World Heavyweight Title would be a nice moment.

NeanderCarl 03-01-2008 01:09 AM

I call a draw, for the first time ever in a Ladder match. Both Hardy and Jericho grab the case at the same time, both fall still holding onto it, match ends in a tie, Jericho-Jeff feud for a couple of months to determine who has the MITB rights.

NeanderCarl 03-01-2008 01:11 AM

Actually I HATE that idea, wish it had never occurred to me, and certainly don't want to see it come to fruition.

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2008 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NeanderCarl (Post 2065278)
Actually I HATE that idea, wish it had never occurred to me, and certainly don't want to see it come to fruition.

I've always wanted to see someone run down (Jamie Noble or a retired Ric Flair would be perfect for this), and steal the briefcase mid-match. The commentators don't have a clue what is going on, but there is a contract in there, and it turns out not to be worded as "the Money in the Bank winner gets to use this contract," but rather "the possessor of this contract." The wrestler who stole the title shot can now use it whenever they want.

The WWE can then hold another Money in the Bank Ladder Match at Backlash, this time worded correctly, so that there must be a winner who uses the title shot. The shot will last until WrestleMania XXIV, with two floating around, and you can decide whether or not you make MITB a WrestleMania concept, or a Backlash concept from now on.

NeanderCarl 03-01-2008 02:12 AM

Yeah... so back to that draw idea...

NeanderCarl 03-01-2008 02:12 AM

:lol: Just yankin yer chain, Noidy

Jeritron 03-01-2008 02:15 AM

Next year they should up the anti and make it an 8 man MITB TLC match

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2008 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2065328)
Next year they should up the anti and make it an 8 man MITB TLC match

I miss TLC Matches at WrestleMania. It was a great way for the undercard to shine, and to get the Tag Titles on the show. John Morrison & The Miz (ECW) vs. Paul London & Brian Kendrick (RAW) vs. Jimmy Wang Yang & Shannon Moore (SmackDown!). Fuck, that would be a slick match.

Shadow 03-01-2008 02:59 AM

Jeff Hardy is gonna win the MITB contract and then go on to cash it in....a year later.

FourFifty 03-01-2008 03:01 AM

I'd like to see a heel with the MITB earn another title shot. Dude gets himself DQ'ed with a low blow or a chair shot, then cashes it in to win the title.

Lux 03-01-2008 07:33 AM

I too miss TLC matchs, been watching them on youtube this morning, just not the same without the guys who made the match awesome, christ we need to get the Dudleyz and Christian so he can reunite with Edge, already have the Hardyz, god damn i miss the old days.

"I think Dudleyville is right outside Parts Unknown but it hasn't been varifed"
-JR at Wrestlemania 17 during the TLC 2 match

Lux 03-01-2008 07:35 AM

However i do not want CM Punk anywhere near the MITB match or the ECW title for that matter, damit Elijah needs a push, not CM Punk, he's turning into the next Bats, always number one contender, grr, it gets annoying and i mean VERY annoying

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2008 06:47 PM

Chavo Guerrero vs. CM Punk at WrestleMania is looking better to me, actually. Just have Chavo get himself disqualified against Punk this week on ECW, and have the Punk then get a rematch at WrestleMania under Extreme Rules.

Elijah Burke should be in the Money in the Bank Ladder Match. It was my belief last year, but then Burke kind of disappeared. Now he is back again. Burke and Benjamin kind of have their friendship/rivalry going on, so it would fit the context of the match.

Kane also seems like he might be getting tied up with The Great Khali. Joy of joys. That might eliminate Kane from entering the match, but let's hope he actually gets to win against Khali.

Mr. JL 03-02-2008 06:56 PM

I didn't think Punk versus Guerrero from No Way Out was even second tier PPV material worthy... let alone Wrestle freakin Mania material.

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. JL (Post 2067439)
I didn't think Punk versus Guerrero from No Way Out was even second tier PPV material worthy... let alone Wrestle freakin Mania material.

I actually agree. I like both guys, but it's more so the match being done to death since the beginning of 2008 than anything else. I'd rather have seen Chavo defend versus Rey Mysterio, Batista or even Kane. Fuck, bring in Mick Foley to job to Chavs.

CM Punk seems a great fit for Money in the Bank right now, but his stuff with Chavo keeps going and going. I guess if he loses to Chavo on Sci-Fi, he can move into the match, and Chavo can do...whatever it is they've got lined up for him. Fuck, I'd mark out for Chavo vs. Stevie right now. Former jobbers in a World Title match at WrestleMania! Wooo!

However, as WrestleMania gets closer, it's a match I am just accepting. It doesn't bother me as much as the WWE Title match, that's for sure.

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2008 07:12 PM

Rob Van Dam has already worked for the WWE once since he left, maybe they could convince him to work WrestleMania? Chavo vs. RVD would be a pretty fun match, and it'd actually seem WrestleMania quality, in my opinion. RVD would add some class to the proceedings.

Not going to happen, but it'd allow ECW to have a title match, and allow CM Punk into Money in the Bank.

James Steele 03-02-2008 10:24 PM

Why are all of you bitching about Triple H? He headlined No Way Out and all of the sudden he is Mr. Politics again.

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2008 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesSteele (Post 2067730)
Why are all of you bitching about Triple H? He headlined No Way Out and all of the sudden he is Mr. Politics again.

What? The man is a cancer on the business, if that's what you're referring to.

Innovator 03-02-2008 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2067771)
What? The man is a cancer on the business, if that's what you're referring to.

HHH will help in the future, he'll keep the product somewhat wrestling oriented



this is after he retires with 30 title runs of course

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2008 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 2067772)
HHH will help in the future, he'll keep the product somewhat wrestling oriented



this is after he retires with 30 title runs of course

I actually agree. Well, sort of. It depends how bias he is in pushing guys. What will count as talent to Triple H? Actual talent, or guys who will carry his bags and wash his car on weekends?

When the man retires, he could, theoretically, be a massively positive influence on the direction of the WWE. He could also cause a lot of damage, too.

Innovator 03-02-2008 11:52 PM

Better than Brian Gerwitz head booking, guys hates wrestling...yet books a wrestling show


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