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Destor 03-13-2008 07:43 PM

Better Wrestler #8
 
Jericho has officially made it further than anyone with 3 out of five wins. This is the home stretch for him now, a win here puts him ONE win away from being the first entrant into the Better Wrestler Hall of Fame. Can he do it? The overwhelming numbers of his victories seem to lean toward it, but I think today's opponent might have something to say about that.

Today's match:

http://www.wweshop.com/newimages/images/77037pi.jpg

VS
http://biografie.leonardo.it/img/bio...e_Guerrero.jpg

By request we have Eddie vs Jericho. Dunno how this will play out. If past history says anything it should be a squash. 3 days as always, feel free to post your pics for the round as well as posting WHY you voted the way you did. Thats the part I'm interested in, anyhow. GET TO IT.
History:

RVD vs CM Punk (24-19-2)
RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)
RVD vs Mr. Perfect (15-23-1)
Mr. Perfect vs Tully Blanchard (30-5-1)
Mr. Perfect vs Chris Jericho (15-23-3)
Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)
Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14-2)

Destor 03-13-2008 07:46 PM

For me this isn't too hard. If you mirror their careers Eddie was better than him everywhere they went. It doesn't matter if you look at ECW, WCW, WWE, anywhere. Eddie was working at a higher level. Whether it was pure wrestling, working the stick, or just simply entertaining. Eddie reigns supreme. Plus he has the whole nostalgia thing working for him.

HeartBreakMan2k 03-13-2008 07:47 PM

Eddie

The Optimist 03-13-2008 07:49 PM

Draw

MMH 03-13-2008 07:49 PM

uhh in the attitude era Jericho was a higher level than Eddie. He was main-eventing, feuding with the Rock, Austin, HHH and even main-evented a WrestleMania. I'd say Jericho is a better promo than Eddie but by a hair. In the ring though it's Eddie for sure and drawing power goes to Eddie too, so I pick Eddie.

Hanso Amore 03-13-2008 07:53 PM

This Thread is Jericho

Mercury Bullet 03-13-2008 07:54 PM

For the first time, I can't decide at all. I have to vote draw, and I really hate voting 'draw'.

Lock Jaw 03-13-2008 07:55 PM

I'll have to go with Eddie. I love both, though. Its just that even when Eddie was in the kinda "doesn't fit in anywhere" limbo that Jericho occasionally finds himself, he always maintained the power to have the crowd eating out of his hands.

Plus everything after he went to the main event (and shortly before) was simply amazing. Some of my fondest memories involve Eddie as WWE Champion, getting these absolutely monstrous pops.

In fact, you'll be hard pressed to find somebody who I would vote over Eddie.

KYR 03-13-2008 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2081076)
For me this isn't too hard. If you mirror their careers Eddie was better than him everywhere they went. It doesn't matter if you look at ECW, WCW, WWE, anywhere. Eddie was working at a higher level. Whether it was pure wrestling, working the stick, or just simply entertaining. Eddie reigns supreme. Plus he has the whole nostalgia thing working for him.

Can't really add any more to that - Eddie for mine.

But I do have one question for you D. How do you decide who faces whom in these polls? Reason I ask is that Jericho has a real chance of losing this and therefore missing out on his place in your "Better Wrestler HOF". Whereas if he was matched up against say Charlie Haas (don't read anything into that it's just a random wrestler I chose) he would most likely win and then go into your HOF.

There is a distinct possibility that your HOF may only have one inductee and that would be the ultmate winner of these polls and I would hate to see someone like Cena get in over someone like Jericho - or am I taking this waaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously?

Destor 03-13-2008 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMH (Post 2081081)
uhh in the attitude era Jericho was a higher level than Eddie. He was main-eventing, feuding with the Rock, Austin, HHH and even main-evented a WrestleMania. I'd say Jericho is a better promo than Eddie but by a hair. In the ring though it's Eddie for sure and drawing power goes to Eddie too, so I pick Eddie.

Higher on the card. I really don't think that defines better.

Destor 03-13-2008 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Know Your Role (Post 2081087)
Can't really add any more to that - Eddie for mine.

But I do have one question for you D. How do you decide who faces whom in these polls? Reason I ask is that Jericho has a real chance of losing this and therefore missing out on his place in your "Better Wrestler HOF". Whereas if he was matched up against say Charlie Haas (don't read anything into that it's just a random wrestler I chose) he would most likely win and then go into your HOF.

There is a distinct possibility that your HOF may only have one inductee and that would be the ultmate winner of these polls and I would hate to see someone like Cena get in over someone like Jericho - or am I taking this waaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously?

A little too seriously yeah. Eddie was picked by someone in the last round (you I think.) Which I would like to go with suggestion as it keeps a little more fair I would like to think. But for the most part I just go with the very first wrestler that pops in my mind. Totally random. Which is why we will have squash matches. Now personally I will reserve the tougher opponents for latter rounds, competition getting stiffer as you make your way up the ranks is sensable enough to me. But yeah. No system really. (Cena wont get in btw.)

El Fangel 03-13-2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet (Post 2081083)
For the first time, I can't decide at all. I have to vote draw, and I really hate voting 'draw'.


Ruien 03-13-2008 08:00 PM

I always felt that Y2J and Eddie were best on the mic, thats why I will mainly vote on this subject. As Eddie was always great, Jericho could provide comedy on the mic that Eddie could not. As in promos it was equal, but Eddie would never be able to have his own segment show.

Hence my vote is Jericho.

Destor 03-13-2008 08:02 PM

Honestly I expected Jericho to be winning this even early on.

Pardeep 619 03-13-2008 08:08 PM

Has to be Eddie Guerrero. Quoting what New Age Outlaws said in a shoot promo about him "you just don't get any better".

MMH 03-13-2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2081088)
Higher on the card. I really don't think that defines better.

Oh that's what I thought you meant, that he was higher on the card. I still think Jericho was better than Eddie on the mic and in the ring in 2000 and 2001 but that's about it, Eddie takes the cake for the rest of the years.

Kane Knight 03-13-2008 08:34 PM

Eddie. YOU CAN'T VOTE AGAINST A DEAD GUY!

Destor 03-13-2008 08:35 PM

We voted against Mr.Perfect just fine.

Ruien 03-13-2008 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2081116)
Eddie. YOU CAN'T VOTE AGAINST A DEAD GUY!


Oh.........

Jura 03-13-2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2081090)
A little too seriously yeah. Eddie was picked by someone in the last round (you I think.) Which I would like to go with suggestion as it keeps a little more fair I would like to think. But for the most part I just go with the very first wrestler that pops in my mind. Totally random. Which is why we will have squash matches. Now personally I will reserve the tougher opponents for latter rounds, competition getting stiffer as you make your way up the ranks is sensable enough to me. But yeah. No system really. (Cena wont get in btw.)

It was me you son of a bitch! I thought Eddie because Jericho was handing everyone else's ass to them and these two were similar in many ways.

KingofOldSchool 03-13-2008 10:09 PM

Eddie was better all around.

Kane Knight 03-13-2008 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2081118)
We voted against Mr.Perfect just fine.

Touché.

No, I seriously like Eddie more. I just had to make the crack. :D

And while I'm at it, it was a pretty hard decision. Both are guys I really enjoy both on the mic and in-ring.

Destor 03-13-2008 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jura (Post 2081292)
It was me you son of a bitch! I thought Eddie because Jericho was handing everyone else's ass to them and these two were similar in many ways.

get all pissed then.

Dorkchop 03-13-2008 10:40 PM

Jericho will always be one of my all time favorite wrestlers, but so will Eddie. When I vote in these, I vote on their in ring talent. Jericho has more in ring talent than probably 99% of wrestlers we've seen on tv, but I think Eddie is in that 1% who are better. I just find Eddie's in ring work to be some of the best I've ever seen (as well as Jericho). Eddie knew how to work a crowd like no other.

Someone post that promo Eddie gave on Smackdown where he didn't even say a word.

Jura 03-13-2008 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2081473)
get all pissed then.

lol I was joking.

I think it would be better if there was no draw option. If Eddie beats Jericho by a huge margin then it makes him look bad as those draw votes could have gone to Jericho and made it closer or on the other hand I guess it could have made it even worse.

Destor 03-14-2008 12:21 AM

A high draw count doesn't make Jericho?Guerrero look worse in defeat, it makes them look better. People torn between the votes and what not. Besides in my head it's like they're having a match, and some times there are draws. Rare, but it happens.

Mr. Pierre 03-14-2008 01:43 AM

I gotta go with Eddie. Both are great, but I think Eddie is just better. Even with playing certain characters.

Both play a great babyface, but I think Eddie can play two types of heels very well, meanwhile Jericho has played the annoying/cowardly heel. Eddie's played the cowardly heel (2000) and a badass (2005) really well. But to be fair, Jericho really hasn't been given the opportunity to play a "badass" heel, so I wonder how he can play it.

BTW, the character comparison wasn't my deciding factor. I just figured I'd mention it.

St. Jimmy 03-14-2008 01:45 AM

Jericho. Not a contest.

What Would Kevin Do? 03-14-2008 01:47 AM

I honestly can't decide.

Heros Welcome 03-14-2008 02:04 AM

Big Jericholic........Loved Latino Heat.....

I'm really having a hard time deciding on this one. I mean I find them to be both unbelievable talents and 2 of my top favs all time. I could flip a coin on this one, and be fine with my choice since I don't want to say draw. In fact I will flip a coin, heads Jericho Tails Eddie

*Flips Coin*

It is Tails, vote goes to Eddie.

Skippord 03-14-2008 02:33 AM

Jericho

I love them both but Jericho entertains me just a little bit more than Eddie did

Destor 03-14-2008 02:38 AM

I honestly didn't think anyone could take Jericho down. And here Eddie is setting a good lead for a win or at least a draw. Also, If a draw were to happen what do you think I should do? I know what I think I should do but I'm wondering what you all think.

Destor 03-14-2008 02:38 AM

Please the people and such.

St. Jimmy 03-14-2008 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2081816)
Please the people and such.

At a Draw the current champion retains.

What Would Kevin Do? 03-14-2008 02:42 AM

I'd say in the case of a draw, the champion goes on, but the other wrestler can rechallenge soon. So if it was a draw, Eddie could come back up and face off against whoever beats Jericho.

Destor 03-14-2008 02:43 AM

I was thinking on those lines. Except the following bout would be a triple threat with the other competitor. I was also thinking that someone couldn't go into the Hall of Fame on a draw. they would have to actually win their 5th match. Dunno. Seeing what people think.

Destor 03-14-2008 02:44 AM

Liking WWKDs idea though. Still dont like the idea of a guy going into the HoF on a draw though.

Heros Welcome 03-14-2008 02:50 AM

I'm diggin WWKD's idea

Destor 03-14-2008 02:52 AM

Sounds good. Still think they should have to get five wins to go into the hoF.

KYR 03-14-2008 03:13 AM

Just like to say for the record that I really like these and that D is doing a great job.

Great discussions from everyone as well and brings back lots of memories and has lead to me viewing some old footage as well (forgot how great some of those matches were).

So are you keeping this just for Wrestlers or are you planning to eventually have a manager (although I think I know who'd win that) or Tag Teams as well?


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