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TazroK 03-14-2004 03:17 AM

Anyone remember when WWE use to have boxing matches?
 
I remember seeing this when I really started to get into wrestling. Although I don't remember much. Was it real or was it not? I remember seeing Goldust boxing, Marc Mero, Ken Shamrock and I believe Steve Blackman.

They should do this again. Imagine Big Show ****ing people up? Or Lesnar?

Again, my memory is cloudy. I was pretty young at the time.

John la Rock 03-14-2004 03:18 AM

Brawl for all. ya they sucked

PureHatred 03-14-2004 03:22 AM

Didn't Bart Gunn win their "tourney?" And then he lost to Butterbean at a WM? Those were awful....Boxing is a great sport to watch when the guys in the matches know what they were doing. But the WWE's version looked worse than those Toughman matches FX used to show.

Paki Crippler 03-14-2004 03:39 AM

there was also a butter bean boxing match at wm xv or something..

Rob 03-14-2004 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TazroK
I remember seeing this when I really started to get into wrestling. Although I don't remember much. Was it real or was it not? I remember seeing Goldust boxing, Marc Mero, Ken Shamrock and I believe Steve Blackman.

They should do this again. Imagine Big Show ****ing people up? Or Lesnar?

Again, my memory is cloudy. I was pretty young at the time.

Yeah your memory is well fu</>cked pal. Goldust never boxed and Ken Shamrock refused to enter the Brawl For All.

Xero 03-14-2004 08:49 AM

I remember them... Im wondering, was the ending fixed, or was it a legit boxing match?

Rob 03-14-2004 08:57 AM

Totally legit matches.

Danny Electric 03-14-2004 10:57 AM

Wasn't it set up to bring someone foward(Marc Mero?) but he got knocked out in the first round.

Lamuella 03-14-2004 10:58 AM

it was set up to elevate Dr Death (Steve Williams) but he got his ass kicked

Rob 03-14-2004 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny Electric
Wasn't it set up to bring someone foward(Marc Mero?) but he got knocked out in the first round.

He got beat by Steve Blackman but then guys pulled out of the tournament so he got back in.

Disturbed316 03-14-2004 02:54 PM

Bart Gunn jobbed to Butterbean in about 2.34546 seconds

Was quite funny actually

Savio 03-14-2004 02:57 PM

I liked it.

Danny Electric 03-14-2004 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob
He got beat by Steve Blackman but then guys pulled out of the tournament so he got back in.

Didn't he used to be a boxer too?

packt up 03-14-2004 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Disturbed316
Bart Gunn jobbed to Butterbean in about 2.34546 seconds

Was quite funny actually

Ha yeah I actually remember that. He got so layed it out so fast it wasn't funny.

Except it was.

JeremyTB29 03-14-2004 06:29 PM

Didn't Piper have a boxing match against MR T and then Piper bodyslammed him lol.

The Mackem 03-14-2004 06:33 PM

Didn't Mero win the Golden gloves or something?

Rob 03-15-2004 02:03 PM

I think Mero was a legit Golden Gloves champ but I dunno for sure. I was not surprised in the slightest that he got beat (well he got screwed in his match with Bradshaw) because boxers don't stand a chance under those rules if they are in with a good takedown wrestler.

The Mackem 03-15-2004 02:06 PM

I remember a few of the matches like Godfather, I think he was in it and some of the others. Me and my mate never really understood how Mero, who was labelled as a legit boxer, could go out to Bradshaw. Oh well, I guess Bradshaw has that affect.

Rob 03-15-2004 02:13 PM

Well Mero scored a legit takedown on Bradshaw and the ref never counted it and he would have won in normal time had he got the points.

I think only Bart Gunn and Steve Williams won matches without going the duration.

SuperSlim 03-15-2004 02:37 PM

yeah brawl for all was funny at times but overall sucked

Paranoid Rattlesnake 03-17-2004 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disturbed316
Bart Gunn jobbed to Butterbean in about 2.34546 seconds

Was quite funny actually

That was because Bart was told in his match against Bradshaw to pull his punches, they wanted Bradshaw as the winner, when Bart knocked him out the WWF as it was at the time decided to punish Bart Gunn

tucsonspeed6 03-17-2004 11:10 AM

What about that match between Flair and somebody else that was supposed to be a legit technical wrestling match. It's really vague in my memory, but for some reason I think that might have been real, but I can't remember how it ended so I could be vastly wrong. If anyone remembers the match I'm talking about refresh my memory.

MVP 03-17-2004 09:12 PM

LOL I remember before Bart Gunn's boxing match with Butterbean him and JR had an interview with Dr. Death.

JR turned heel and slapped Dr. Death in the face. :lol:

Rob 03-18-2004 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Rattlesnake
That was because Bart was told in his match against Bradshaw to pull his punches, they wanted Bradshaw as the winner, when Bart knocked him out the WWF as it was at the time decided to punish Bart Gunn

Not that I'm calling you a liar or anything but I find that very hard to believe and here's why:

1 - They were fighting for legit prize money and I can't see why they would fix the final when the rest of it was a shoot. Would Bradshaw willing let go 50 grand just to get a fake win? Wasn't the WWF confident Bradshaw could get a result.

2 -Bart Gunn was over. Not major over but he was over and looked like a new star. He was knocking out guys left and right and the people wanted to see him win it all after he knocked out Steve Williams.

3 - If they wanted to punish him, he wouldn't have been at WrestleMania on a big pay day fighting Butterbean. They also paid for extensive boxing training for him.

Shaggy 03-18-2004 02:13 PM

I remember that stupid Brawl for All thing. It was stupid and never really made any since. The only good thing about it was seeing Bart Gunn getting nailed in the face by butterbean for the knockout punch. That had to be one of the greatest punches ever done.

DaveWadding 03-18-2004 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tucsonspeed6
What about that match between Flair and somebody else that was supposed to be a legit technical wrestling match. It's really vague in my memory, but for some reason I think that might have been real, but I can't remember how it ended so I could be vastly wrong. If anyone remembers the match I'm talking about refresh my memory.


Flair had a training session with a couple jobbers that was amateur style back in the late 80's...and he ended up pissing off Piper so they went at it amateur style during the same session...is that what you're thinking about?

wheresmaven 03-18-2004 08:43 PM

The God/good father was in the 'Brawl for All' too. (along with Droz and Hawk.. that was a good fight- I remember then spitting their mouth guards out, touching gloves, and just whooping eachother)
But the godfather got knocked out so hard that the camera zoomed in on his face after he got knocked down.
GF-"What just happened?"
Ref-"You got knocked out!"
GF-"He knocked me down?!? Aww DAMN!"

Hilarious.
And Marc Mero (the wrestler turned insurance salesman) had some championship match with Butterbean at a ppv. Mero used the stool he was sitting on, and a dropkick to win.
That feud was supposed to be some great midcard match, but considering neither could cut promos, the feud just dropped off of the face of the earth.

CANADIAN 03-18-2004 09:24 PM

They should do another

Wondermouse 03-18-2004 09:27 PM

Please God no. WWE should focus on actual storylines and putting on a quality prodyct instead of rehashing silly gimmicks.

King Jericho 03-19-2004 07:41 PM

Yeh Bart Gunn won Brawl for all and lost to butterbean at Wrestlemania 15 no less, i mean come on WRESTLEMANIA 15 was not that long ago!

Also i actually watched wrestlemania 15 today and laughed when Bart Gunn was knocked out after like 5 seconds

Vastardikai 03-20-2004 02:27 AM

The reason why Bart Gunn even knocked out Dr. Death, IIRC, was because Doc blew out a knee on the takedown previous and he more or less stumbled INTO the punch. Definition of FLUKE. A shoot rematch, without gloves, would have left Bart Gunn annihilated.

Seriously, though. The whole thing was inducted into Wrestlecrap, and that's where it should stay...

EazyMack 03-20-2004 04:00 AM

I didn't think it was that bad. It was something different.

ColdwaVer 03-20-2004 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob
They also paid for extensive boxing training for him.

After WMXV I hope they asked for their money back.

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Originally Posted by King Jericho
Also i actually watched wrestlemania 15 today and laughed when Bart Gunn was knocked out after like 5 seconds

I beleive the sight of Bart's head bobbing on his neck inspired the bobblehead doll craze...

Rob 03-20-2004 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai
The reason why Bart Gunn even knocked out Dr. Death, IIRC, was because Doc blew out a knee on the takedown previous and he more or less stumbled INTO the punch. Definition of FLUKE. A shoot rematch, without gloves, would have left Bart Gunn annihilated.

Seriously, though. The whole thing was inducted into Wrestlecrap, and that's where it should stay...

He dislocated his knee when Bart Gunn took him down though. In a shoot rematch, I'd pick the same result. Steve Williams just had his first shoot last weekend and got beaten to a plup. He is too long out of real competition (and he worked like 3 matches in the previous 24 hours so that's how prepared he was).

News is Doc has throat cancer now. He is such a great character and I wish him well through his illness.


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