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Kane Knight 04-08-2008 08:58 AM

Has the 'Mania buyrate been announced yet?
 
I'm just wondering what it pulled in compared primarily to recent years. Especially with the "20 million dollars" spent on Mayweather...

(Yes, I know he wasn't paid that...Hence the quotes...Before anyone decides to point it out)

TerranRich 04-08-2008 12:47 PM

He was NOT paid twen—

Oh.

Kane Knight 04-08-2008 02:39 PM

:lol:

St. Jimmy 04-08-2008 04:04 PM

20 Bucks and Cab Fare.

Jordan 04-08-2008 04:39 PM

No they haven't announced anything yet.

Kane Knight 04-08-2008 05:28 PM

World Wrestling Entertainment® set both attendance and ticket sale records at WrestleMania XXIV tonight at the Florida Citrus Bowl in Orlando.
WWE® grossed more than $5.85 million in ticket sales, making it the highest grossing live event in WWE history and in the history of the Citrus Bowl.
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Still no buyrate info, but there is that. I'm surprised they haven't announced at least preliminary data yet.

Kane Knight 04-08-2008 07:49 PM

On a related note, the ratings for the first Raw after Mania are in. Raw did hours of 3.5 and 3.2, which is hugely up from before Mania. Unfortunately, it's not musch stronger than recent weeks, and this is COMING OFF OF THE BIGGEST EVENT OF THE YEAR.

Xero 04-08-2008 07:53 PM

It obviously didn't do what they wanted. The question now is how badly they did do, since they released the overnights last year right away.

Kane Knight 04-08-2008 08:07 PM

Yeah, we can be certain that if it did well, it'd be all over the place.

TerranRich 04-08-2008 09:42 PM

That Raw was MAKE OR BREAK IT for WWE and the ratings it pulled were UNACCEPTABLE.

Xero 04-08-2008 09:43 PM

Well, it's obvious why. Old guys like CM PUNK are getting PUSHED while guys in their PRIME like MARK HENRY are PUSHED TO THE SIDE!

Jeritron 04-08-2008 09:48 PM

How is it obviously worse than they wanted? I had read estimates of 1.4 million as of that monday morning. Of course, these could be wrong. But that would make it more bought than wrestlemania 23 was, with encores all week to add on.

Jeritron 04-08-2008 09:51 PM

That was Yahoo!Sports that reported the new WWE record for buys, as well as Mayweather promotions.

I'm not sure if this is true, that remains to be seen. But take that as you will. I don't understand "it obviously didn't do what they wanted"

Xero 04-08-2008 09:55 PM

If it did what they wanted they would have released the preliminary numbers asap and pushed them. By now they would be out.

Jeritron 04-08-2008 09:57 PM

Well I think they wanted 2 million buys, which is nearly double what they set the record with last year. So I highly doubt they met that goal, but I don't think anything could have met that goal.
1.4 million + buys is hardly dissapointing. It's the record.

Kane Knight 04-08-2008 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2112447)
That was Yahoo!Sports that reported the new WWE record for buys, as well as Mayweather promotions.

I'm not sure if this is true, that remains to be seen. But take that as you will. I don't understand "it obviously didn't do what they wanted"

I'd like to see that, actually. Thing is, I haven't. Which is why this thread was made in the first place. I mean, if you're sitting on info, by all means, share. However comma, WWE hasn't mentioned anything so far, even on their corporate site.

And the fact that they're bragging about other figures and not bringing this up kind of does indicate, you know...Bad things.

Jeritron 04-08-2008 10:04 PM

Well I highly doubt Wrestlemania did bad things. I'll try to find the Yahoo story asap. I still don't see how the assumptions you guys are making are more credible than a major news outlets reporting. I'm not aruging you guys really either, just presenting what I heard and where I heard it from.

I'll look into it

Jeritron 04-08-2008 10:05 PM

Also, aren't you two the ones who were spelling doom and insisting that it would fail, and that "people didn't know who Mayweather was" and all that. I mean, with all due respect, don't you guys kinda want it to fail so that you're right? That might be why you think it failed.

Rob 04-08-2008 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2112454)
Well I think they wanted 2 million buys, which is nearly double what they set the record with last year. So I highly doubt they met that goal, but I don't think anything could have met that goal.
1.4 million + buys is hardly dissapointing. It's the record.

They would cum in their pants if they did 2 million buys.

Ideally, they wanted 1.4 million. I think it's touch and go if they got it. I'd be shocked if they didn't hit 1.2 million anyway.

Jeritron 04-08-2008 10:09 PM

They stated that was their goal. Of course, nobody including them expected it. I think they just said that

Jeritron 04-08-2008 10:11 PM

I'm not finding that story, but I know for a fact I read it on Yahoo Sports. If anyone wants to help me search for it, or a similar story feel free.

Xero 04-08-2008 10:18 PM

Found it...

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_yl...ki-floyd040208

There are no hard Mania-related numbers that I noticed (I skimmed it), but there's this:

"The WWE isn’t expected to release pay-per-view results until next week, though Ellerbe said he was told the show has already done better than the previous record of 1.25 million sales."

Kane Knight 04-08-2008 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2112471)
Also, aren't you two the ones who were spelling doom and insisting that it would fail, and that "people didn't know who Mayweather was" and all that. I mean, with all due respect, don't you guys kinda want it to fail so that you're right? That might be why you think it failed.

I love how hard you're trying to push a motive on us.

But still, your stupidity aside, can you explain why they wouldn't be running with these numbers if they were so good? WWE generally broadcasts their numbers when they're hot and hides them when they're not. Last week's Raw is another such example. So if the numbers were as good as or better than expected, wouldn't they run with that?

I mean, they're already running with the arena sales.

Kane Knight 04-08-2008 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2112494)
Found it...

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_yl...ki-floyd040208

There are no hard Mania-related numbers that I noticed (I skimmed it), but there's this:

"The WWE isn’t expected to release pay-per-view results until next week, though Ellerbe said he was told the show has already done better than the previous record of 1.25 million sales."

Wasn't Yahoo! Sports also reporting Mayweather as making 20 million dollars?

Kane Knight 04-08-2008 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2112494)
"The WWE isn’t expected to release pay-per-view results until next week, though Ellerbe said he was told the show has already done better than the previous record of 1.25 million sales."

Which contradicts this, in the same article:

He is part of the best-selling bout in boxing history and his appearance at WrestleMania 24 on Sunday in Orlando, Fla., was such a hit, Ellerbe says, that the wrestling pay-per-view record of 1.25 million is expected to be topped.

Note the word "expected."

Kane Knight 04-08-2008 10:44 PM

On a side note, does anyone else kind of expect promoters to say things which are, you know, Bullshit?

Jeritron 04-09-2008 12:41 AM

If it didn't top 1.25 I'll be a monkey's uncle

Kane Knight 04-09-2008 09:51 AM

If Mayweather didn't make 20 million dollars, Jeritron will probably still be a monkey's uncle.

The Mackem 04-09-2008 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2112546)
On a side note, does anyone else kind of expect promoters to say things which are, you know, Bullshit?

Well you know how figures can be made up, 77% of TPWW knows that.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 04-09-2008 10:16 AM

Yahoo is reporting it closer to 82%.

The Mackem 04-09-2008 10:21 AM

Do you have a source for this? 82% seems highly dubious.

Kane Knight 04-09-2008 10:44 AM

His source is Yahoo.

In related news, Mayweather made 20 million dollars. I saw in on Yahoo.

The Mackem 04-09-2008 10:50 AM

I demand a link for this 82%

Jeritron 04-09-2008 12:42 PM

In related news, wrestlemania failed because I say so

Jeritron 04-09-2008 12:42 PM

come on dude, man the fuck up

Kane Knight 04-09-2008 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2113167)
come on dude, man the fuck up

Man up to your retarded assertions?

Can I make up your argument for you and then scream at you to man up, too?

Kane Knight 04-09-2008 01:40 PM

I would have simply used the term "strawman," but that would doubtless involve Terranrich and Afterlife.

addy2hotty 04-09-2008 02:06 PM

Misinformation. They want you to believe it didn't do well so they can say 'hey you, we did great, see you next year. Meanwhile on Raw, we have people dressed up as Hilary and Barack fight in the ring, watch RAW!'

Kane Knight 04-09-2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addy2hotty (Post 2113239)
Misinformation. They want you to believe it didn't do well so they can say 'hey you, we did great, see you next year. Meanwhile on Raw, we have people dressed up as Hilary and Barack fight in the ring, watch RAW!'

So it's a swerve? BRILLIANT!

Kane Knight 04-11-2008 10:53 AM

I wonder how long we'll have to wait to see the buyrate, though.


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