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Renaissance man 05-02-2008 01:57 PM

Is Heath ledger going to be a better Joker than Jack?
 
He could really. Heath's final great curtain call, its poetic.

Stickman 05-02-2008 02:09 PM

I dunno man, Jack is amazing.

Renaissance man 05-02-2008 02:44 PM

I know dude.

Stickman 05-02-2008 03:38 PM

I'm not going to watch the movie analysing if Ledger was better than Jack but after I may think back an critique it.

Renaissance man 05-02-2008 03:40 PM

maybe it wouldn't be fair to the memory of Ledger to compare him to an all time cinema great such as Jack

RP 05-02-2008 03:44 PM

I dunno, but if the charachter lives up to the trailer's i've seen. He should get an Oscar. Cause he looks fantastic in it. Really dark and really pyscho. But we'll have to see the movie.

RP 05-02-2008 03:45 PM

I think this Batman movie is gunna break a ton of records when it opens too.

wwe2222 05-02-2008 03:53 PM

not that i am worried much about it, but yes i think he is.

Champion of Europa 05-02-2008 04:26 PM

I never really liked Jack's Joker. It's just Jack Nicholson goofing around. I never thought, "Hey, that's The Joker." I thought, "That's Jack Nicholson with a lot of makeup."

Heath Ledger appears to have lost himself in the role.

Kane Knight 05-02-2008 04:37 PM

Ledger should be epic.

Renaissance man 05-02-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Champion of Europa (Post 2142460)
I never really liked Jack's Joker. It's just Jack Nicholson goofing around. I never thought, "Hey, that's The Joker." I thought, "That's Jack Nicholson with a lot of makeup."

Heath Ledger appears to have lost himself in the role.

he went too far with his creation :(

Downunder 05-02-2008 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Champion of Europa (Post 2142460)
I never really liked Jack's Joker. It's just Jack Nicholson goofing around. I never thought, "Hey, that's The Joker." I thought, "That's Jack Nicholson with a lot of makeup."

Heath Ledger appears to have lost himself in the role.

I agree 100%

U-Warrior 05-02-2008 04:59 PM

I think the versions of the Joker they are playing, are so different that it becomes unfair to compare them. It really comes down to personal preferance, as opposed to one being definitivly better than the other.

That said, I like the grittier, realistic Nolan style, rather than the goth-cartoonish style of burton, so I'll probably like ledger's version better.

Heros Welcome 05-02-2008 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-Warrior (Post 2142477)
I think the versions of the Joker they are playing, are so different that it becomes unfair to compare them. It really comes down to personal preferance, as opposed to one being definitivly better than the other.

That said, I like the grittier, realistic Nolan style, rather than the goth-cartoonish style of burton, so I'll probably like ledger's version better.

I agree 100%. You hit the nail right on the head

Lock Jaw 05-02-2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Champion of Europa (Post 2142460)
I never really liked Jack's Joker. It's just Jack Nicholson goofing around. I never thought, "Hey, that's The Joker." I thought, "That's Jack Nicholson with a lot of makeup."

Heath Ledger appears to have lost himself in the role.

I too agree with this. Jack gave a good performance, and I love him in that movie, but I don't find the Joker to be as good a Joker representation as Ledger promises to have.

Which goes down to what U-Warrior is saying... the two different styles of the films... and I think that Nolan's style is going to do more to truly capture the essence of The Joker.

ct2k 05-04-2008 08:30 AM

How the fuck can anyone know until they've seen the new film you stupid fat idiot?

Blue Demon 05-04-2008 09:09 AM

Was that really necessary ct2k?

ct2k 05-04-2008 09:14 AM

Entirely, Renaissance man is a stupid cuntbollocks

Fox 05-04-2008 10:27 AM

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...olsonJoker.jpg

We're dealing with oil and vinegar here. Two different things, equally great in their own way.

Nothing I can say that hasn't been said before. Just that I can't wait for TDK.

Confused 05-05-2008 06:54 AM

I'm loving Ledgers shirt there! Very nice.

slextremely 05-05-2008 05:55 PM

What i have seen from Heath so far, blows anything Nicholson did out of the water.

ct2k 05-05-2008 06:14 PM

Ledger does look fucking immense from the trailers, can't fucking wait

RP 05-05-2008 06:27 PM

Has it been confirmed that Harvey Dent will actually be Two Face in this because if you watch the new trailer and pause it at 2:03 you can see him holding the gun and you can see the outline makeup of the other side of his face.

El Fangel 05-05-2008 06:28 PM

Here is what I think.

Jacks Joker does not fit into this new Batman movie, the same way Ledgers would not fit into the old one.

El Fangel 05-05-2008 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder (Post 2144995)
Has it been confirmed that Harvey Dent will actually be Two Face in this because if you watch the new trailer and pause it at 2:03 you can see him holding the gun and you can see the outline makeup of the other side of his face.

Link me up Mr. Danger.

RP 05-05-2008 06:36 PM

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El Fangel 05-05-2008 06:53 PM

:drool:

I change my view, yes Ledger is better.

Vastardikai 05-05-2008 07:17 PM

Cesar Romero gets no respect...

RP 05-05-2008 07:27 PM

Hey fuck Cesar Romero

Zen v.W.o. 05-05-2008 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder (Post 2144995)
Has it been confirmed that Harvey Dent will actually be Two Face in this because if you watch the new trailer and pause it at 2:03 you can see him holding the gun and you can see the outline makeup of the other side of his face.

http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/DentBurn.jpg

As for the comparisons, two totally different styles fit for two totally different styles of movies. Jack was incredible in his performance.

McLegend 05-05-2008 09:18 PM

Zen pulls an RP.

El Fangel 05-05-2008 09:20 PM

Omfg, THAT is Two-Face?

Vastardikai 05-05-2008 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder (Post 2145040)
Hey fuck Cesar Romero

http://mantequillaconazucar.files.wo...mero_joker.gif

RP 05-06-2008 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. (Post 2145109)
http://www.aintitcool.com/images2007/DentBurn.jpg

As for the comparisons, two totally different styles fit for two totally different styles of movies. Jack was incredible in his performance.

I dont know about that

It looks cool. I just dont know about that though. Its not exactly what i remember Two Face being like. But it looks good.

Blue Demon 05-06-2008 07:15 AM

AFAIK he becomes two-face somewhere near the end of the movie too.

Loose Cannon 05-06-2008 10:09 AM

what COE and Kane Knight said. I think we're in for an epic performance

El Fangel 05-07-2008 12:04 AM

I agree, and Im already waiting for a third one, they have to have a third one.

Kalyx triaD 05-08-2008 07:14 AM

Would have been nice to put that Two-Face pic under a link.

Thanks for that.

ron the dial 05-08-2008 10:37 AM

from what i've seen i'm leaning towards ledger as the performance that i'll enjoy more. but that's like saying i like mint chocolate chip ice cream better than cookie dough ice cream.

Zen v.W.o. 05-08-2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2147732)
Would have been nice to put that Two-Face pic under a link.

Thanks for that.

You're welcome.


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