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BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 12:55 PM

Regal > Jericho
 
Before everyone gets on my case for hating Jericho, this is coming from a non-hate perspecitve.

I am just saying right now, as of this second with current story lines. It seems much more likely that Regal could get a world title shot, if not win it before Jericho.

Discuss.

Rob 05-08-2008 01:19 PM

Well one dude is getting a big heel push and one isn't. Duh!

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 01:33 PM

Is it Jericho getting the heel push?

Londoner 05-08-2008 01:36 PM

Oh look, another lets hate on jericho thread. Do hate on Jericho some more please, you're not a tiring act at all now are you BDC.

Rob 05-08-2008 01:43 PM

Jericho > Nash.

All you need to know.

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2147909)
Oh look, another lets hate on jericho thread. Do hate on Jericho some more please, you're not a tiring act at all now are you BDC.

I'm not hating on Jericho, I am just comparing to established veterans and saying that Regal currently looks stronger than Jericho. You just blindly assume since I said Jericho's name, I'm hating on him.

Plus I think comparing them is fair. They have had similar careers, so to speak. Both were WCW undercarders with no way up. They are both idolized by their repective countries. Both have beaten up Goldberg. Both have been held back because of their bodies (Jericho being small, Regal being pasty and unimpressive). Both are considered techincal experts. Both work better as heels.

If I wanted to insult Jericho, I would have said Collin Dalaney > Jericho.

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2147920)
Jericho > Nash.

All you need to know.

The only reason Nash lost to Jericho is because Nash needed a hair cut for his role in Punisher. It is a well known fact that if a wrestling is going to get a haircut, they have to lose a haircut match. It is against the law for prowrestlers to go to a barbershop.

Rob 05-08-2008 01:56 PM

Undertaker didn't. JBL didn't. Steve Austin didn't. Chris Jericho didn't. Christian Cage didn't. Should I go on?

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2147935)
Undertaker didn't. JBL didn't. Steve Austin didn't. Chris Jericho didn't. Christian Cage didn't. Should I go on?

Undertaker died and came back with shorter hair. JBL switched gimmicks, it doesn't count. Austin did it in ECW, ECW was real. Jericho wasn't a wrestler at the time. Christian Cage is Canadian, the laws are different up there.

The One 05-08-2008 02:16 PM

EDIT: Nevermind.

Miss you guys.

Kliq 4 Lyfe

Fox 05-08-2008 02:32 PM

This thread could be titled many things though, BDC.

Regal > MVP

Regal > Jeff Hardy

Regal > CM Punk

Regal > JBL

Regal > Big Show

The list could go on. The fact that you choose Jericho is proof that this is just a "why such-in-such (in this case: Regal) is better than Y2J" thread.

Londoner 05-08-2008 02:34 PM

Exactly fox. Its tiring.

Theo Dious 05-08-2008 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2147932)
The only reason Nash lost to Jericho is because Nash needed a hair cut for his role in Punisher. It is a well known fact that if a wrestling is going to get a haircut, they have to lose a haircut match. It is against the law for prowrestlers to go to a barbershop.

I believe that law was enacted so that wrestlers wouldn't try to dive through plate glass windows to escape their adversaries, as did that coward Marty Janetty.

Rob 05-08-2008 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2147936)
Undertaker died and came back with shorter hair. JBL switched gimmicks, it doesn't count.

Wrong on both counts there. During his biker run, Taker had hair one week and it was cut the next. Same with JBL before he turned heel.

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2147953)
This thread could be titled many things though, BDC.

Regal > MVP

Regal > Jeff Hardy

Regal > CM Punk

Regal > JBL

Regal > Big Show

The list could go on. The fact that you choose Jericho is proof that this is just a "why such-in-such (in this case: Regal) is better than Y2J" thread.

I wouldn't say MVP is established, nor is CM Punk. Hardy is clearly not in the mainevent picture. As for JBL and Bigshow, that is a good point. I would say they are both in a slightly better position that Regal. I would probably rank it something like Bigshow > JBL > Regal > Jericho > Punk > MVP right now. Possible switching Jericho and Punk only because Punk can get a title shot whenever he pleases right now, but I don't believe Punk could win. I have JBL up so high because he is carrying his fued with Cena right now and just came out of a world title match. Bigshow can win the title when ever he wants and seems really focused right now (i mean that from both a mark and smark point of view).

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2147971)
Wrong on both counts there. During his biker run, Taker had hair one week and it was cut the next. Same with JBL before he turned heel.

Well, I better alert the proper authorities.

Jeritron 05-08-2008 02:57 PM

Regal doesn't look stronger. He's just getting a bigger push. There's a difference.
Regal has yet to win a match clean besides the Punk match.

Jericho wins every week and gets back any loss he gets

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 02:58 PM

Hmmmm, interesting point Jeritron.

Jeritron 05-08-2008 02:59 PM

just sayin

Londoner 05-08-2008 03:00 PM

And jericho is far better on the mic, has more potential than regal.

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 03:01 PM

Well when you are a heel, do you need clean wins?

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2147982)
And jericho is far better on the mic, has more potential than regal.

I respectifully disagree.

Indifferent Clox 05-08-2008 03:02 PM

BDC: ARREST THAT DEADMAN!!!
Cop 1: but he's dead
BDC (whispers): no.. you have to shout it incoherentley
Cop 1: why?
Cop 2: just placate the boy stan
Cop 1: allright... ahem... BUD HE DAAAAAYYY
COP 2: ID CLEE DO SEE HEE DAAAAYYYY
BDC: BUD HE GOT DEEE HAIRS COOOTTTT ARAIJFOAJIFAOFID
Undertaker: Jesus fucking christ.
Jesus: HE DAAAAAAAAAY

Kane Knight 05-08-2008 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2147953)
This thread could be titled many things though, BDC.

Regal > MVP

Regal > Jeff Hardy

Regal > CM Punk

Regal > JBL

Regal > Big Show

The list could go on. The fact that you choose Jericho is proof that this is just a "why such-in-such (in this case: Regal) is better than Y2J" thread.

LOL.

I wasn't going to defend BDC or anything, because he's a big boy and doesn't need a cheerleading squad. But this is some of the most retarded shit I could imagine reading.

Second place goes to TL for agreeing.

Indifferent Clox 05-08-2008 03:05 PM

I think at this moment regal is a little over jericho. I really like Jericho though.

Jeritron 05-08-2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2147984)
Well when you are a heel, do you need clean wins?

To look "strong" as you put it. But either way, you need wins. At the moment they're pushing him as a corrupt authority figure which works the way they're doing it, but to make him look strong in the ring he needs to win some matches. To look like a strong heel he needs to steal some hard fought matches.
At the moment, no he isn't even close to strong. He jobbed for 3+ years, and has since won one match.
Granted, yes he's recieving a strong push. But Hornswaggle recieved a bigger push in 2007 than most of the uppercard. Doesn't mean he looked stronger

CSL 05-08-2008 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2147982)
And jericho is far better on the mic, has more potential than regal.

Come on now

Jeritron 05-08-2008 03:12 PM

Oh and my unbiased two cents.
Jericho, as a former champion and consistent uppermidcard/main eventer obvious looks stronger. He wins matches consistently against other protected wrestlers. He also holds a top tier title (regardless of it's credibility) and is depicted as one of the best on television.
Regal, however, has yet to get an in ring push of any sort.

In terms of storyline, the edge goes to Regal at the moment. Jericho is still on tv every week, and involved in an awkward storyline, but a weekly storyline with Bats and HBK nonetheless.

I'd say Jericho definitely ranks higher in the pecking order of the WWE right now, but Regal is in the midst of a push so they could be around the same level kayfabe and storyline-wise shortly. How long that lasts is another discussion, but yes I agree with what you're saying.

Even though technically Jericho is stronger and higher priority than Regal RIGHT NOW, I'll def agree with Regal=Jericho

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2147999)
Oh and my unbiased two cents.
Jericho, as a former champion and consistent uppermidcard/main eventer obvious looks stronger. He wins matches consistently against other protected wrestlers. He also holds a top tier title (regardless of it's credibility) and is depicted as one of the best on television.
Regal, however, has yet to get an in ring push of any sort.

In terms of storyline, the edge goes to Regal at the moment. Jericho is still on tv every week, and involved in an awkward storyline, but a weekly storyline with Bats and HBK nonetheless.

I'd say Jericho definitely ranks higher in the pecking order of the WWE right now, but Regal is in the midst of a push so they could be around the same level kayfabe and storyline-wise shortly. How long that lasts is another discussion, but yes I agree with what you're saying.

Even though technically Jericho is stronger and higher priority than Regal RIGHT NOW, I'll def agree with Regal=Jericho

Fair enough. BTW, I'm just saying Regal > Jericho, not Regal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Snitsky > Jericho.

Jeritron 05-08-2008 03:33 PM

Yea I feel ya. It's a fair assertion from a storyline standpoint, or a personal preference one as well

Londoner 05-08-2008 03:43 PM

Ahhh, and now the jericho haters come to back bdc up, just like every other hate on jericho thread, do you guys just sit around hating jericho all day or something? Get a life.

BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 03:47 PM

TL u crazy.

Kane Knight 05-08-2008 03:50 PM

Where are the Regal marks, anyway? I mean, you have people bitching about the comparison as though Jericho was just compared to some shitty third rate wrestler.

And I ask: Of all the people to be worse than, is it even that bad if Jericho is worse than him?

Regal is not Shawn Michaels or Kurt Angle. He's not the Rock or Steve Austin. He is, however, strong in both mic skills and mat skills, even if his mat skills aren't exactly what people think of in terms of style. Regal's been a solid wrestler or character for years now, and has been constantly outshone by other wrestlers. And now he's getting a solid push that is long overdue. Is it really so bad to be compared to that?

Well, it is for TL, because it would require him to take Chris' cock out of his mouth, but come on....

Kane Knight 05-08-2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2148053)
Ahhh, and now the jericho haters come to back bdc up, just like every other hate on jericho thread, do you guys just sit around hating jericho all day or something? Get a life.

So the guy named after Jericho is a Jericho hater?

Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound right now?

#BROKEN Hasney 05-08-2008 04:04 PM

OMFG, I don't hate Jericho. In fact, I'm loving the seeds of this heel turn so far, but can no-one mention Jericho withouth the Jericho Defense Force (or JDF) turning up?

Jeritron 05-08-2008 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2148053)
Ahhh, and now the jericho haters come to back bdc up, just like every other hate on jericho thread, do you guys just sit around hating jericho all day or something? Get a life.


Did you just call me the jericho hater coming to back BDC up? LOL

CSL 05-08-2008 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2148053)
Ahhh, and now the jericho haters come to back bdc up, just like every other hate on jericho thread, do you guys just sit around hating jericho all day or something? Get a life.

LOL. Are you his lawyer or some shit?

Kane Knight 05-08-2008 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2148111)
LOL. Are you his lover or some shit?


BigDaddyCool 05-08-2008 04:40 PM

I still fail to see how this thread hates on Jericho, unless not praising Jericho as the second coming of Christ = hating on Jericho.

Kane Knight 05-08-2008 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Hasney (Post 2148104)
OMFG, I don't hate Jericho. In fact, I'm loving the seeds of this heel turn so far, but can no-one mention Jericho withouth the Jericho Defense Force (or JDF) turning up?

I haven't seen any of the heel turn. Is it better than his redebut then?

Anyway, the JDF is appropriate.


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