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Mr. Nerfect 05-17-2008 03:17 AM

Do you think we will get a William Regal WWE Championship reign?
 
I'm hoping yes. This heel push is awesome, Regal is awesome, his hair has more charisma than John Cena, and everything he touches becomes awesome. He ios definitely getting a massive push, but am I too hopeful thinking that it's possible Lord Regal will soon hold the WWE Championship?

Boondock Saint 05-17-2008 03:21 AM

I'd like to see it. It'd be different.

Destor 05-17-2008 03:24 AM

Gotta say no brother, but I have to point out I thought Jericho, Eddie and Benoit would NEVER hold a world championship. I would have put money on it, so I dunno. Can't see it happening though.

Impeccable 05-17-2008 03:28 AM

Do I think he will...no.

Do we deserve to see it and does he deserve it? Hell yes.

Bad Company 05-17-2008 03:58 AM

let's hope not.
I think people need to be realistic, regal is a mid carder, upper mid carder at best.

Indifferent Clox 05-17-2008 04:36 AM

I think you need to be realistic and shut up.


Idk what.

The Optimist 05-17-2008 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Company (Post 2157419)
let's hope not.
I think people need to be realistic, regal is a mid carder, upper mid carder at best.

Evidence?

Rob 05-17-2008 05:35 AM

I think there is a very good chance he'll get a month or two with the world title.

Bad Company 05-17-2008 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Optimist (Post 2157441)
Evidence?

While he's tight in the ring, and has a great character, I just don't see him as the kind of guy to be the champion. I see him as the guy holding the mid card together. If you guys had your way Dean Malenko and Fit Finlay would be WWE Champs.

addy2hotty 05-17-2008 06:42 AM

Could you imagine it though.

Regal stands in the ring the Raw after winning the title with the belt on his shoulder in his suit and says:-

'I am William Regal, your King Of The Ring, your General Manager and now, your WWE Champion'.

That'd be my mark out moment of all time, right there.

It won't happen though. Which is sad.

GD 05-17-2008 07:58 AM

I would not mind Regal becoming a Brand Champion but then it would be Eddie Guerrero all over again.

RP 05-17-2008 08:06 AM

Regal makes more sense being champion then CM Punk does. Thats for sure.

RP 05-17-2008 08:08 AM

CM Punk is horrible. He's like RVD. Who was also horrible. His move set is based around kicks, knees, punches and forearms. Which are hard to sell without hurting someone , so he always looks like he's going real soft on his opponents. He looks like a turd. He's got a weird body shape. He couldnt keep Maria satisfied. Fuck this guy. Get rid of him. I hope Punk goes to TNA and sucks balls there.

BigDaddyCool 05-17-2008 10:15 AM

RP has a point. It is called wrestling not kicking, CM Punk does way too much striking.

I wouldn't be surprised if Regal managed to get a 3 month reign. Regal is one of those guys that has been inserted into a number of main event feuds believably. I'm not counting on Regal becoming champion, but I could see it happening.

NeanderCarl 05-17-2008 10:19 AM

Regal becoming champion is a more likely scenario today than Bradshaw becoming champion in 2004, yet look what happened.

BigDaddyCool 05-17-2008 10:26 AM

I would say besides the usual 6 or 7 guys in the mainevent (HHH, Cena, HBK, Orton, Undertaker, Batista, and Edge) Regal has the best chance of becoming a top level champion.

CM Punk - keeps losing and needs a nice streak before looking strong

Jericho - looks like crap and is unfocused

Jeff Hardy - needs to keep off drugs

Kennedy - suck

MVP - Seems a little to focused on the US title right now.

Finlay - not sure if he was ever an option.

thedamndest 05-17-2008 10:26 AM

In terms of character, Regal is way past the upper mid-card. He's KOTR, General Manager, and arguably top heel on Raw right now. In terms of who he's beaten lately or ever, he's definitely got to make up some ground to get to championship level. That's sort of a comparison I would make with how it was with Bradshaw, he just kind of came from no where and Regal is a lot more substantial than Bradshaw so hopefully this is what this is leading to.

Hanso Amore 05-17-2008 10:45 AM

I was about to say the same thing about bradshaw and Regal.

Regal is the new JBL

A guys reinvents himself and is a great stop gap main eventer.

If he starts to abuse his power to make himself champ, then this works.

I dont buy him as champ winning clean....but he can be the Evil GM/King/Champ that stacks the deck to keep himself on top, and eventually, when someone does beat him, it will be a big deal. Could work.

KingofKings 05-17-2008 10:55 AM

This is the problem with the wwe though, i have seen some people saying that regal is a mid-carder at most nothing else so he can never win the title, this is the problem, everythin is too predictable!

Why could a mid-carder not hold the title for 2 months or so, hell it would be different than going into every ppv knowing either trips, cena or orton r gonna walk out the champion, this is why wrestling is gettin stale IMO, everyone knows the position of every wrestler and every1 knows only certain things are possible. I can remeber nitro going live for the first time, n eric bishcoff sayin 'anythin is possible', and it made wrestling great IMO. i wish we could see this again.

Rob 05-17-2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2157547)
Regal becoming champion is a more likely scenario today than Bradshaw becoming champion in 2004, yet look what happened.

Nah it wasn't. Vince McMahon was all the way behind the JBL character change since it somewhat looked like him. He doesn't like Regal's in ring work but Triple-H loves it so who knows.

Rammsteinmad 05-17-2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofKings (Post 2157567)
This is the problem with the wwe though, i have seen some people saying that regal is a mid-carder at most nothing else so he can never win the title, this is the problem, everythin is too predictable!

Why could a mid-carder not hold the title for 2 months or so, hell it would be different than going into every ppv knowing either trips, cena or orton r gonna walk out the champion, this is why wrestling is gettin stale IMO, everyone knows the position of every wrestler and every1 knows only certain things are possible. I can remeber nitro going live for the first time, n eric bishcoff sayin 'anythin is possible', and it made wrestling great IMO. i wish we could see this again.

:y:

NeanderCarl 05-17-2008 12:49 PM

Regal's in ring work is absolutely out of place in the WWE but so what? It furthers a storyline, and Regal as the power crazed champion gone slightly mad stacking the deck in his own favour to retain his title could get him Honky Tonk heat, would make interesting TV and lead to an interesting title chase for a babyface champion over the summer (probably Trips or Cena, but who knows? Maybe even Punk or Jericho... or HBK. The man to unseat Regal could even become an instant babyface hit, like Warrior in 1988)

Porcupine 05-17-2008 01:33 PM

I hope so. If JBL did it, Regal can and SHOULD do it. And it has potential to be 10x better. Regal rules.

Vastardikai 05-17-2008 06:26 PM

I've been saying it since RVD won the WWE Title:

Regal is the best wrestler on the current WWE Roster NEVER to have held a top title.

Kane Knight 05-17-2008 09:01 PM

I'd actually like to see it, but I'm not sure it'd be a good idea for WWE to do it.

The Optimist 05-17-2008 09:27 PM

Hm. The point about JBL got me thinking. (I know, shocker.) What they might do is give Regal the suspected four or five month title reign job him to a face, who'll then get mad pops. Then ship him to Smackdown to a very competent heel in the main event off and on.

Mr. Nerfect 05-18-2008 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Company (Post 2157451)
While he's tight in the ring, and has a great character, I just don't see him as the kind of guy to be the champion. I see him as the guy holding the mid card together. If you guys had your way Dean Malenko and Fit Finlay would be WWE Champs.

So because you don't see it, it isn't realistic?

William Regal is, top to bottom, one of the best performers in the WWE right now. He's great on the mic, great in the ring, a great character and he's over. Also, I could make a case for Finlay to be World Champion. Dean Malenko would be a stretch, but there is no reason he couldn't have done it, luck provided.

Mr. Nerfect 05-18-2008 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addy2hotty (Post 2157457)
Could you imagine it though.

Regal stands in the ring the Raw after winning the title with the belt on his shoulder in his suit and says:-

'I am William Regal, your King Of The Ring, your General Manager and now, your WWE Champion'.

That'd be my mark out moment of all time, right there.

It won't happen though. Which is sad.

Then William Regal fires the entire RAW roster, and hosts a "Best of William Regal" two-hour broadcast in place of RAW. :shifty:

Mr. Nerfect 05-18-2008 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2157608)
Nah it wasn't. Vince McMahon was all the way behind the JBL character change since it somewhat looked like him. He doesn't like Regal's in ring work but Triple-H loves it so who knows.

Triple H lobbying for Regal to get a singles push is by far the best thing he has done recently. I think he might actually respect Regal enough to drop the WWE Title to him, too. Here's hoping.

Kane Knight 05-18-2008 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2158192)
So because you don't see it, it isn't realistic?

Aren't we merely making projections and estimations based on how we see things? I mean, is there really any other way to answer this question in the first place? And aren't you just using another variation of "That's your opinion" in a field where there is only opinion, and it should be understood?

Being the best performer top to bottom doesn't make him a realistic choice for Main Eventer. You could make a case for Finlay, yes, who's also awesome. Doesn't mean he'd work out in the Main Event. People made a case for JBL, who couldn't draw with Eddie Guerrero as an opponent. Sure, you can make a case for someone. You can probably make a case for a lot of people, but in the end, that means sweet fuck all.

Wrestling is like Politics. And in America, it doesn't matter who the best choice is, this is who you get:

http://img147.echo.cx/img147/5263/bush7wk.jpg

Porcupine 05-18-2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2158204)
Triple H lobbying for Regal to get a singles push is by far the best thing he has done recently. I think he might actually respect Regal enough to drop the WWE Title to him, too. Here's hoping.

H : Hai guys can u give Regal a push so he can job to me? K thx bai!

TerranRich 05-18-2008 02:44 PM

Would anybody here about 7 years ago, have seen Rey Mysterio as a possible world champion?

Stranger things have happened, is all I'm saying.

Mr. Nerfect 05-19-2008 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2158417)
Aren't we merely making projections and estimations based on how we see things? I mean, is there really any other way to answer this question in the first place? And aren't you just using another variation of "That's your opinion" in a field where there is only opinion, and it should be understood?

Being the best performer top to bottom doesn't make him a realistic choice for Main Eventer. You could make a case for Finlay, yes, who's also awesome. Doesn't mean he'd work out in the Main Event. People made a case for JBL, who couldn't draw with Eddie Guerrero as an opponent. Sure, you can make a case for someone. You can probably make a case for a lot of people, but in the end, that means sweet fuck all.

Wrestling is like Politics. And in America, it doesn't matter who the best choice is, this is who you get:

http://img147.echo.cx/img147/5263/bush7wk.jpg

So what you're saying is "all we have is opinion" and then throwing out mine because it's not founded on anything? Look, I wasn't being hostile to Bad Company. On the contrary, I quite like him. I just think that Regal's current slot in storylines makes him higher than a upper mid-carder. thedamndest summed up his current position really well.

It was also you who made a comment to The CyNick about Matt Hardy in another thread, where you said (and I paraphrase) "whether you like it or not, Matt Hardy could have been something." Very similar to what I meant when I said what I did to Company.

Also, the points you made about JBL and George Bush support exactly what I'm saying: if they can become WWE Champion and President of the United States, respectively (JBL was WWE Champion, Bush was President, just so people know), then why is it unrealistic to assume William Regal could be WWE Champion? Why is it unrealistic to assume that Finlay, with things properly aligned, could not be a World Champion?

We aren't really talking opinions here. Opinions on Regal, of all kinds, are welcome. That can be part of the discussion. What I'm asking is whether or not people can see Regal as WWE Champion. Company said no, but I disagree with his criteria for assessing this possibility based on his out-dated view of Regal's position on the roster. Regal definitely got an upgrade when he won the 2008 King of the Ring, and in the recent weeks he has been abusing his power.

Saying "no, I think Triple H has a lock on the WWE Championship for a while" or "no, I think the WWE will still keep Regal away from the WWE Championship because he is too different from the usual style of main eventer" is fair enough. I think limiting Regal to the mid-card is a bit extreme and not so much an "opinion" as an unreasonable evaluation of the man.

Destor 05-19-2008 02:06 AM

At the risk of kissing your ass I gotta say, I have no idea why people give you shit.

Mr. Nerfect 05-19-2008 02:10 AM

I think it's because I make myself an easy target because I come off as overly passionate about wrestling in my writing. I write lots and lots about it, and I value the under-card more than I apparently should, because "no one gives a shit about those guys," and I have high hopes for lots of guys, and aren't critical of guys that haven't blossomed yet.

But you know, God forbid anyone do that on a wrestling forum.

Impact! 05-19-2008 02:29 AM

Noid :y:

Mr. Nerfect 05-19-2008 04:26 AM

Impact!, you are aware of my love for you right? Same goes, Destor.

311 05-19-2008 06:42 AM

Cena chasing Regal is money and could almost have an Austin/McMahon edge to it. :y:

Edit: If only there was someone who could wrestle that had Cena's drawing power. :(

Kane Knight 05-19-2008 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2159458)
So what you're saying is "all we have is opinion" and then throwing out mine because it's not founded on anything?

No. Stop making shit up.

311 05-19-2008 07:05 AM

What's happened with Regal is, WWE has given a heel a monster push out of nowhere...a la JBL and shoving it down our throats.

LUCKILY, Regal actually DOES have mic skills, and is one of the best wrestlers in the company. (And doesn't have Texas BBQ Man Breasts) He also happens to be one of those guys that pop up on forums such as these while being mentioned in the same breath as 'Underused,' 'Wasted,' and 'Underrated.'

When things like this happen it honestly makes me wonder if we smarks can never, ever be satisfied.


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