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BigDaddyCool 06-02-2008 01:42 PM

Which is more unforgivable...and be honest.
 
Chris Benoit double murder suicide (that involes murdering his own son, his own flesh and blood) or Hulk Hogan being a self centered dick hole?

BigDaddyCool 06-02-2008 01:44 PM

Now remember, if you vote for one, you are saying you can forgive the other more easily.

SammyG 06-02-2008 01:45 PM

First of all, it's unforgivable. Secondly, this is the dumbest question of all time if you want people to answer this seriously, come on.

Afterlife 06-02-2008 01:48 PM

Fuck. I voted for Benoit because I thought it said "forgiveable". I call for a do-over!

BigDaddyCool 06-02-2008 01:48 PM

BDC has never been a strong speller, get over it.

CSL 06-02-2008 01:49 PM

Well, on the account of not caring less about Hogan's ways, Benoit easy.

CSL 06-02-2008 01:50 PM

And then, like a complete jobber, I selected the wrong option in the poll :|

Afterlife 06-02-2008 01:53 PM

lol, Seems to be a trend.

Rob 06-02-2008 02:17 PM

Hogan is self centered? Wow who gives a fuck? He ain't killing anyone.

And he is the reason a ton of guys have fucking jobs today.

MCEazy 06-02-2008 02:21 PM

As much as i hate hogan, holding just about anybody in the business back as apposed to killing ur own family is not even close really.

Afterlife 06-02-2008 02:49 PM

If Hogan was an asshole because he was crazy and couldn't help it, this would be a difficult argument. But since mad men can't be held accountable for being mad, and Hogan is an empty douchebag because he chooses to be, it seems pretty simple.

Azriel 06-02-2008 03:24 PM

Not even close by a wiiide margin. If Hogan ever kills somebody though, then the scales might tip his way.

Nowhere Man 06-02-2008 03:32 PM

Sure, Hogan was an asshole and ruined dozens of people's careers. That's pretty shitty. Strangling your own son, though, is just about the worst thing a person can do. So it's no contest at all.

FourFifty 06-02-2008 03:34 PM

I'm gonna say Hogan was worse. At least Benoit took himself out.

darkpower 06-02-2008 03:35 PM

Yes

The Optimist 06-02-2008 04:09 PM

Hogan's whole life of being a total shit head or Benoit's completely abberant psychotic behavior at the end of his life?

Benoit had gone insane, Hogan does all this while completely in control of himself.

Rob 06-02-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2173281)
If Hogan was an asshole because he was crazy and couldn't help it, this would be a difficult argument. But since mad men can't be held accountable for being mad, and Hogan is an empty douchebag because he chooses to be, it seems pretty simple.

You don't know Benoit was mad. And I don't give a fuck if he was (which will never be proven and is only debated by people who want to believe he was), he killed 2 people. Bottom line.

Afterlife 06-02-2008 05:54 PM

I knew you'd do this. And you know what? You're still an arrogant, obtuse and wrong. And for the record, moron, he killed three people.

Rob 06-02-2008 06:14 PM

Get a life pal.

U-Warrior 06-02-2008 06:20 PM

Good fucking god, afterlife.

No amount of being a dickbag can surpass killing your wife, and 7 year old son, even if you're somewhat unstable.

Theo Dious 06-02-2008 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2173360)
You don't know Benoit was mad.

But I KNOW that Hulk Hogan is not. Therefore I am less likely to forgive him than someone who MIGHT have been off his nut.

Afterlife 06-02-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-Warrior (Post 2173532)
Good fucking god, afterlife.

No amount of being a dickbag can surpass killing your wife, and 7 year old son, even if you're somewhat unstable.

Killing a portion of your loved ones is not "slightly unstable", it's "off your fucking rocker". There is a massive difference, wether you choose to see it or not. And choosing your reality is a luxury for those of us with control of our mental faculties; those who aren't can't be blamed for their actions because they're not in fucking control.

Rob 06-02-2008 07:57 PM

So all murderers shouldn't be jailed or whatever because they are mentally insane then.

Rob 06-02-2008 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U-Warrior (Post 2173532)
Good fucking god, afterlife.

No amount of being a dickbag can surpass killing your wife, and 7 year old son, even if you're somewhat unstable.

Don't stress. It's forgivable for anyone to murder people because you aren't mentally right. Obviously in the fucking millions of murders in the history of the world, every single killer was mentally ill. Should never do jail time because they should be given insanity pleas. 9/11 was fine by the way. The terrorists were mental so it's forgivable.

I'd rather someone be a dick to me than kill me. That's just me though.

It's absolutely no wonder why people in the real world think wrestling fans are the fucking scum of the Earth. Only wrestling fans can defend murderers.

Afterlife 06-02-2008 08:23 PM

See, now you're getting defensive again, and you're not making any sense in the process. You did this last time and looked like a real jerk in doing so.

Rob 06-02-2008 08:30 PM

I don't expect people who defend murderers to understand.

And I don't fuck a flying fuck if you think I look like a jerk, dick or a cunt. I will absolutely NEVER believe all murderers are nuts. Simple as that. You got a problem with it? Tell someone who cares.

NoRoolz 06-02-2008 08:30 PM

What Benoit did is more unforgiveable as a double murder suicide can't really be compared with just being an arrogant, selfish cunt doing prickish things.

However, I do believe Benoit was no way in his right mind and if he would have stopped after killing his family, I believe he'd have ended up in some sort of mental institution.

Benoit did something unforgiveable realistically, but in my belief was always a good person.
Hogan has done a lot of bad things, but only minor, but to me, has always been a cunt.

Rob 06-02-2008 08:53 PM

Hulk Hogan didn't do any good for anyone in the wrestling business either did he? Only helped at least 20 guys have careers for a start. Also made a ton of guys in the late 80s have good 6 figure bank accounts because he was selling out shows like a rock star.

WCW - only helped turned the entire company around and they were profitable for the only time in their history when he was on top. Also made even more guys millionaires. Bryan Adams for example got a $800,000 a year deal because he was connected with Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage. He wasn't getting 1/4 of that in the WWF.

So he didn't do a job? Who gives a shit. Like Billy Kidman should have been a fucking main eventer or something. It's the wrestling business. It's all politics and backstabbing. If you don't know what you are getting into then you are a fucking moron. He got himself a deal where he had creative control and a huge guarantee sum of money on every show. How does this make him a bad person? It shows WCW were fucking idiots for giving him the deal. Sometimes he should have lost to someone to make them a bigger star so he could make more money with them on top and he didn't. Bad decision yes. Bad person? Fuck no.

Honestly amongst carnies? Come on now. No wonder the fans are called marks.

Mr. Nerfect 06-02-2008 09:03 PM

What a stupid fucking question. And I'm not saying that because it's "easy to answer," either. There are just too many things to take into consideration, and the two options really have nothing to do with each other. They are tragedies for entirely different reasons.

Rob 06-02-2008 09:07 PM

Hey 9 people think refusing to do a job to Billy Kidman and Bret Hart is worse than killing a child. These are the people you are dealing with here brother.

Bad Company 06-02-2008 09:15 PM

Fuck, I voted on the wrong one. Hogan has done nothing compared to Benoit.

Rob 06-02-2008 09:27 PM

He refused to do a job!!!!! How is that nothing?

U-Warrior 06-02-2008 11:17 PM

He held people down, yeah, but he didn't ruin any careers or anything. Everyone he held down ended up being successful eventualy anyways, so I don't see how he's done that much damage to the industry.

And despite his douchebaggery, he did more to help the industry in the 80's, than he ever did to hurt it in subsequent years.

thedamndest 06-02-2008 11:25 PM

lol this poll is closer than Taz vs. Sabu.

Bad Company 06-02-2008 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2173849)
He refused to do a job!!!!! How is that nothing?

Maybe this should be between Benoit and Bret Hart. Wooooo!

ron the dial 06-02-2008 11:40 PM

how is this even a thread

ron the dial 06-02-2008 11:43 PM

god i didn't even read it. some of you are fucking worthless human beings.

U-Warrior 06-02-2008 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2173713)
Hulk Hogan didn't do any good for anyone in the wrestling business either did he? Only helped at least 20 guys have careers for a start. Also made a ton of guys in the late 80s have good 6 figure bank accounts because he was selling out shows like a rock star.

WCW - only helped turned the entire company around and they were profitable for the only time in their history when he was on top. Also made even more guys millionaires. Bryan Adams for example got a $800,000 a year deal because he was connected with Hulk Hogan and Randy Savage. He wasn't getting 1/4 of that in the WWF.

So he didn't do a job? Who gives a shit. Like Billy Kidman should have been a fucking main eventer or something. It's the wrestling business. It's all politics and backstabbing. If you don't know what you are getting into then you are a fucking moron. He got himself a deal where he had creative control and a huge guarantee sum of money on every show. How does this make him a bad person? It shows WCW were fucking idiots for giving him the deal. Sometimes he should have lost to someone to make them a bigger star so he could make more money with them on top and he didn't. Bad decision yes. Bad person? Fuck no.

Honestly amongst carnies? Come on now. No wonder the fans are called marks.

Seriously, I can understand why the IWC doesn't like the guy, but they blow his negatives WAYYYYYYY out of proportion.

Afterlife 06-03-2008 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2173679)
I don't expect people who defend murderers to understand.

And I don't fuck a flying fuck if you think I look like a jerk, dick or a cunt. I will absolutely NEVER believe all murderers are nuts. Simple as that. You got a problem with it? Tell someone who cares.

Nobody ever said that. Your silly exaggerations and deliberate misquotations take away your credibility.

The Mackem 06-03-2008 02:34 AM

I never read anything that said Benoit was mad.


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