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What Would Kevin Do? 06-10-2008 05:06 AM

Wait... What?!?! *Raw Dark Match*
 
So, some people are reporting that in a Raw dark match, Bryan Danielson went over Lance Cade cleanly with the Cattle Mutilation.

Interesting...

Destor 06-10-2008 05:09 AM

I hope he doesn't sign...he's too good for them. WHile I've been saying they need a new Benoit/Angle type guy they will mistreat him. This is terrible...

The Genius 06-10-2008 05:10 AM

ya, looked what happend to gunner scott.

What Would Kevin Do? 06-10-2008 05:12 AM

I doubt they'll sign him...You never know though since some people would obviously push for him (Foley, HBM, etc.)

He doesn't really translate to a WWE crowd.... I don't know though. A small part of me says "Hey, Danielson might not do horrible in the WWE". An even smaller part says "Hey, maybe they wouldn't blow it." Most of me though is just screaming "OH DEAR GOD! THE FUCKING HORROR OF IT ALL!"

Destor 06-10-2008 05:18 AM

I really don't like this. But to be fair, this isn't his first tryout. (Hopefully it's his last.) I know the guy is after the money and all but the guy is an artist and I really can't stand the idea of that being destroyed. GAH. I wish the NWA was still around.

Mr. Nerfect 06-10-2008 05:56 AM

As much as I love ROH, and feel that Bryan Danielson is fairly crucial to independent wrestling as a whole, and as much as I know the WWE would bitch him out, if Danielson wants the money and the glory, he deserves a shot. The guy is also underrated in the personality department (he chooses to be no frills). The WWE giving him some zest might be just what he needs to connect on a more "entertainment" level, as well.

But in a dream world, he'd step in and stick up for Shawn Michaels against Chris Jericho, we'd see Jericho vs. Danielson, Regal return, HBK and Regal fight over Danielson's soul, some matches with his mentors, fellow students of HBK and Regal (the Regal one mainly in storylines), and by then Danielson would be an established workhorse on the roster.

It's a bit unusual the WWE chose to put Danielson over Lance Cade, though. I'd have expected Cade to sit-down uranage Danielson to hell. Probably a sign that the WWE is very interested in Danielson again. He's under ROH contract, but I don't think it would be very hard to work something out with ROH financially. Hell, imagine how great it'd be if the WWE and ROH came to some kind of agreement between them? Danielson can work non-PPV events for the company (or maybe even PPV events), and maybe ROH can get some other WWE talent out of the deal?

And Larry Sweeney can take credit for it, shaking Vince's hand at a press conference, or something.

Mr. Nerfect 06-10-2008 05:58 AM

Also, if the WWE sprung for the rights to use "The Final Countdown" as Bryan Danielson's entrance theme, it would instantly make him a top face within the company.

KingofOldSchool 06-10-2008 09:07 AM

LOL Bland Danielson working for Titan, that would be something...

KingofOldSchool 06-10-2008 09:09 AM

http://i26.tinypic.com/1zvzbis.jpg

Pic of Bland Danielson from last night

KingofOldSchool 06-10-2008 09:09 AM

He kind of looks like Nunzio's retarded brother...

Londoner 06-10-2008 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 2181304)
I doubt they'll sign him...You never know though since some people would obviously push for him (Foley, HBM, etc.)

He doesn't really translate to a WWE crowd.... I don't know though. A small part of me says "Hey, Danielson might not do horrible in the WWE". An even smaller part says "Hey, maybe they wouldn't blow it." Most of me though is just screaming "OH DEAR GOD! THE FUCKING HORROR OF IT ALL!"

I dunno much about him, but i get those exact thoughts to.

Porcupine 06-10-2008 11:51 AM

I think that WWE's handling of CM Punk shows that they are able to take an indy darling and book him well (and yes, I think Punk is being booked well despite his recent losses.) However, I dont know enough about Danielson to know if this is the case with him. Punk has tons of charisma and a ready made gimmick...if this guy is vanilla character wise, WWE might "screw him up" by giving him a silly gimmick if they do sign him.

I do think all the "OMG WWE MUST NOT SIGN HIM THEY WILL RUIN HIM" is not really applicable nowadays.

KingofOldSchool 06-10-2008 11:53 AM

They should call him "Velocity Jobber" and all of his matches consist of jobbing to Chuck Palumbo.

Porcupine 06-10-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool (Post 2181459)
They should call him "Velocity Jobber" and all of his matches consist of jobbing to Chuck Palumbo.

Or better yet, call him "High Velocity" and have him wear a Velocity logo mask and call himself the ruler and master of WWE Velocity...only to lose...

to local jobbers.

Innovator 06-10-2008 11:57 AM

This news makes me want to punch babies

Kane Knight 06-10-2008 12:47 PM

I'd like to know who isn't too good for WWE. I can think of Mark Henry, Khali, BDV and Hulk Hogan.

Xero 06-10-2008 01:32 PM

http://i26.tinypic.com/1zvzbis.jpg
"Yay."

NYDon 06-10-2008 01:53 PM

this kid is gonna shock a lot of people when he gets over

What Would Kevin Do? 06-10-2008 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porcupine (Post 2181451)
I think that WWE's handling of CM Punk shows that they are able to take an indy darling and book him well (and yes, I think Punk is being booked well despite his recent losses.) However, I dont know enough about Danielson to know if this is the case with him. Punk has tons of charisma and a ready made gimmick...if this guy is vanilla character wise, WWE might "screw him up" by giving him a silly gimmick if they do sign him.

I do think all the "OMG WWE MUST NOT SIGN HIM THEY WILL RUIN HIM" is not really applicable nowadays.

CM Punk and Bryan Danielson wrestle 2 totally different styles. Bryan wrestles much more like Regal/Lance Storm/Malenko type wrestler. It's harder to get a crowd into a submission based wrestler, especially with the WWE's style being how it is.

I wouldn't say Danielson is too good for the WWE, because saying someone is too good for them is crazy. It's essentially everything a wrestler can hope for. The main reason I don't like it is because I know he wouldn't be able to put on the same quality matches in the WWE as he does now.

Indifferent Clox 06-10-2008 02:19 PM

They'd probably name him the American Dragon and put him in a mask.

RGWhat316 06-10-2008 04:20 PM

Hell yeah, I'd love to see Danielson head to WWE. I'd especially love it if people were chanting "you're gonna get your fn head kicked in".

need2Blove 06-10-2008 04:52 PM

thanks for sharing!
 
thanks for sharing dude!______________________________Someone who convinces you that there really is an unlocked door just waiting for you to wow gold open it.

Innovator 06-10-2008 07:56 PM

Can't imagine him coming out to anything right now but The Final Countdown

Halbowsky 06-10-2008 10:55 PM

As much as I love Danielson, he won't fit into WWE's 5 minute mat classic matches

Innovator 06-10-2008 10:55 PM

Matt Classic?

parkmania 06-11-2008 12:52 AM

No please, Innovator... Chavo Classic was bad enough, we don't need Mr. Hardy joining the roster.

Destor 06-11-2008 12:58 AM

Matt CLassic is Colt Cabbana :roll:

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2008 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool (Post 2181375)
LOL Bland Danielson working for Titan, that would be something...

You do realise that a lot of Bryan Danielson's "blandness" is intended, don't you?

I can really see Danielson getting over. His dark match on RAW already had him wearing different tights than what he normally would wear. Danielson understands that he's going to need to show more personality in the WWE. I think the WWE would know it, too. I also don't think they would even look at Danielson if they didn't want him on their roster.

He was trained by Shawn Michaels and William Regal, two guys that Triple H really likes, so I don't think there will be much resistance against him when he shows up for work.

Gabe has addressed the situation by saying "I have no comment about everything." Truthfully, I think Gabe would have something to say on the situation if it were clear-cut. "I'm not happy with Danielson violating his contract," "This was done with ROH's knowledge," "I'll address this on such a date," etc. Maybe I'm getting my hopes up, and my Shadow helmet on, but I think that there may be more to this. A ROH/WWE working agreement, perhaps?

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2008 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 2181595)
They'd probably name him the American Dragon and put him in a mask.

I can actually see them doing that. It'd take some getting used to, but it'd help get rid of the everyman look.

The way some people critique Danielson is ridiculous. Those people would have been against WCW signing Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, Lance Storm and William Regal, and the like. It's a style those guys choose to represent.

If Danielson does leave ROH, I'd expect Brent Albright to get a continued push right to the top. That man is a beast.

Indifferent Clox 06-11-2008 01:26 AM

I'd love to see Matt Classic, CM Punk, and American Dragon form a stable. omg.

Vastardikai 06-11-2008 02:06 AM

... Is Vince reading my posts here?

:shifty:

Destor 06-11-2008 02:36 AM

LOOK AT MY SIGGGGGGG

Mr. Nerfect 06-12-2008 06:53 AM

Believe it or not, as unrealistic as it would be, a stable consisting of ROH wrestlers would be awesome.

D Mac 06-12-2008 06:58 AM

Chants "Overrated" *clap clap, clap clap clap* "over-rated"

Destor 06-12-2008 06:58 AM

With RoH posing no realistic threat in any foreseeable future I don't see why they couldn't do something on ECW with a bunch of RoH guys...unlikely, yeah. But it could get over on a small scale.

Mr. Nerfect 06-12-2008 07:28 AM

Especially considering how Evan Bourne seemingly has a lot of good will going for him. And how successful CM Punk has become as an attraction in the WWE. There are a lot of guys in ROH that could cross-over really well.

Mr. Nerfect 06-12-2008 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel Mac (Post 2183987)
Chants "Overrated" *clap clap, clap clap clap* "over-rated"

If anything, I think Danielson is underrated because so many people bitch that he is overrated. Damn that big fish in a small pond, aye?

Destor 06-12-2008 07:35 AM

Matt Classiccccc

Porcupine 06-12-2008 11:00 AM

They should call him "Demented Danielson" and have an angle where he wins $2 from Vince and then starts haunting the arenas with...youtube videos where he rants about how the money give away is stupid, how he wants to destroy McMahon and how the WWE will implode on itself.

Super V 06-12-2008 11:37 AM

He'd eventually get over. Bryan Danielson matches are an acquired taste but eventually he could be great.


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