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Stickman 06-17-2008 07:02 PM

You know what has been bugging me?
 
Lately I find the camera work and editing of Raw to be bloody terrible. This week they'd cut to commercials during segements and the camera angle would change the moment a move was done. They used to be so good at timing but it seems like they dont' care anymore.

Does anybody else notice this?

Theo Dious 06-17-2008 07:05 PM

I've noticed that a lot on-again and off-again over the years. I don't know if they have a big turnaround behind the cameras and behind the boards or what, but it really seems like at times their cuts, angles, and transitions are just god awful.

Legend Killer 06-17-2008 07:08 PM

You'd think that with Million-Dollar Mania going on, they would pay more attention to this. However, odds are that if you get 10 people in a room watching wrestling, that a majority of of thos 10 will not give a damn about the camera angles.

Theo Dious 06-17-2008 07:13 PM

Stop saying things that are so true they make me want to cry. :cry:

The Optimist 06-17-2008 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendKiller2007 (Post 2191789)
You'd think that with Million-Dollar Mania going on, they would pay more attention to this. However, odds are that if you get 10 people in a room watching wrestling, that a majority of of thos 10 will not give a damn about the wrestling.


MCEazy 06-17-2008 07:15 PM

shittyass HD cameras :nono:

Kane Knight 06-17-2008 07:19 PM

It's been worse since the switch to HD. I think there could be a reason.

Legend Killer 06-17-2008 07:36 PM

What's this HD you speak of?

MCEazy 06-17-2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendKiller2007 (Post 2191830)
What's this HD you speak of?

Hi-def SON..... something i wish i could afford :(

Xero 06-17-2008 08:29 PM

My guess is that they hired at least a partially new camera crew for high def and they don't have all they need down. I've noticed that the shots on standard def are pretty much properly framed.

Kane Knight 06-17-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2191881)
My guess is that they hired at least a partially new camera crew for high def and they don't have all they need down. I've noticed that the shots on standard def are pretty much properly framed.

The high def signal and the SD signal are the same. One's just chopped down. If they cut away from big moves on one, they do so on both.

Of course, they're still framing it for SD, so that will look better.

I don't think it's so much a new camera crew as it is lack of familiarity with the equipment.

Team Sheep 06-18-2008 07:33 AM

Well when they first switched to HD I remember hearing about the wrestler's getting told to make their moves look 'more real' and stuff. So maybe they switch away as soon as moves are hit so it looks more real and adds more drama to it. Like when someone gets hit in a movie, they change camera right away so you can't spot any potential flaws in the maneuvor as it happens so quickly.

The Mackem 06-18-2008 08:09 AM

A big 'Kapoww' should flash on screen as that happens.

Xero 06-18-2008 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2191907)
The high def signal and the SD signal are the same. One's just chopped down. If they cut away from big moves on one, they do so on both.

Of course, they're still framing it for SD, so that will look better.

I'm aware, I was just talking about the fact that the first few months of the HD broadcast had the SD broadcast getting wrestlers cut off and such.

Pardeep 619 06-18-2008 09:13 AM

They've been messing up a lot in terms of missed or crappy camera shots this year, from the camera missing Undertaker legdropping Snitsky througha table at Royal Rumble, to the missed 'damn' shot during the Mae Young - Haas kiss.

Also didn't like the camera angle of HBK's head going through the plasma - it just looked too awkward to watch (if that makes any sense)

Stickman 06-18-2008 12:41 PM

The first Raw on HD I noticed how guys would be out of frame when doing the pose on the ropes so on regular tv all you could see was half of him.

But like this week, they'd have a segment, match, then start another segment, commercial, then continue the segment. When Ric Flair came out they cut to commerical, wtf?

Londoner 06-18-2008 01:13 PM

I haven't noticed cause i haven't payed much attention ever since the last PPV.

Pardeep 619 06-18-2008 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 2192722)
The first Raw on HD I noticed how guys would be out of frame when doing the pose on the ropes so on regular tv all you could see was half of him.

But like this week, they'd have a segment, match, then start another segment, commercial, then continue the segment. When Ric Flair came out they cut to commerical, wtf?

Yeah but Raw going to commercial when Flair came out would have been planned to keep the fans watching after the break

Kane Knight 06-18-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2192730)
I haven't noticed cause i haven't payed much attention ever since the last PPV.

I have trouble keeping my eyes on the TV at all these days when Raw's on. It's just not very engaging, and ends up as background noise.

Which probably isn't a bad thing, all things considered.

NoRoolz 06-18-2008 05:41 PM

I've noticed, I remember noticing when HHH was cutting a promo a few weeks ago, the shot was all off centre and was cutting part of his head out and stuff.

And I barely pay attention to Raw and fast-forward a lot of it so it's gotta be pretty bad if I've actually noticed.


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