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Kane Knight 06-18-2008 12:06 PM

LOL!
 
The first edition of the Million Dollar Giveaway drew...

*drumroll please*





Rickroll please....



2.6 and 2.5!

Way to go Vince! Your ratings actually DROPPED!

Loose Cannon 06-18-2008 12:16 PM

well the problem with trying to gain ratings for this is that you don't actually have to watch the show. You get the password, you wait by your phone and then you can flip back over. It's not like you have to stay glued to Raw

KingofOldSchool 06-18-2008 12:21 PM

And it doesn't help that THEY GIVE AWAY THE FUCKING PASSWORD ON THE WEBSITE!

And they should have ya know, change the password for each prize.

Kane Knight 06-18-2008 12:21 PM

You don't have to, but the same is true with most such giveaways, and those manage to raise ratings and sales.

Of course, the problem is that people have to give a shit in the first place.

At least 3 million of Raw's viewers didn't. And if you can't draw in them, what chance do they have of jacking the ratings?

The Mackem 06-18-2008 12:31 PM

They should have had some puzzle game when you had to collect letters that would pop up on the screen at random times on Raw throughout the course of a month. Make people watch for the money.

BigDaddyCool 06-18-2008 12:34 PM

It would help if it wasn't boring as all hell.

Dave Youell 06-18-2008 02:40 PM

The early ratings for the 2nd week say they are up, i know the figures I see are different from what KK gets, but the usual places are saying it's up by 0.3

Afterlife 06-18-2008 02:59 PM

That's the thing, tho. That first week was slapped together and frustrating. Of course it's not going to be a ratings boost when you're slow runs more roughshod than usual. This is absolutely an instance where you have to wait and see.

addy2hotty 06-18-2008 03:17 PM

So, in a way, Vince is paying a million a week for viewers to turn off.

Brilliant business.

He's a BILLIONAIRE!

Kane Knight 06-18-2008 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Youell (Post 2192797)
The early ratings for the 2nd week say they are up, i know the figures I see are different from what KK gets, but the usual places are saying it's up by 0.3

.3 from what, though? From the 2.6 figure, which brings them back to breakeven, or...?

Kane Knight 06-18-2008 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by addy2hotty (Post 2192811)
So, in a way, Vince is paying a million a week for viewers to turn off.

Brilliant business.

He's a BILLIONAIRE!

I think I know what his plan is.

After Million Dollar Mania fails, he's going to hire Brock Lesnar to come to our houses and shake us down for money.

Rob 06-18-2008 04:59 PM

Is it true they called people to tell them to stand by their phones before the first show?

KingofOldSchool 06-18-2008 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2192883)
Is it true they called people to tell them to stand by their phones before the first show?

Yeah

Kane Knight 06-18-2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2192883)
Is it true they called people to tell them to stand by their phones before the first show?

That would explain why nobody sounded surprised the first time.

Legend Killer 06-18-2008 06:00 PM

How do they do ratings anyways? I had learned about Ratings and Shares in my Mass Media Class here at the college I attend, but I never learned how it was done. I thought that ratings would go up if a person watched a program for a set amount of time.

Kane Knight 06-18-2008 10:31 PM

Are you asking specifically how a person is counted?

Legend Killer 06-18-2008 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2193120)
Are you asking specifically how a person is counted?

Yeah how are they counted, I mean how do they know that you are watching a program...Do they do it in a survey fashion?

Mr. Nerfect 06-18-2008 10:38 PM

I'm sort of glad the WWE is failing. Shit like this deserves a ratings drop. RAW this week was apparently much better, so that's something in the WWE's favour, at least.

Afterlife 06-18-2008 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendKiller2007 (Post 2193130)
Yeah how are they counted, I mean how do they know that you are watching a program...Do they do it in a survey fashion?

Neilson sends you a packet, and you fill out what shows you watch for what hours, and what shows you'd theoretically watch if you're not actually watching tv for a designated period of time. After a week, you send it in and they tally it with a bunch of other random ass people. That is, given they receive the survey -- when I sent it in, they managed not only to have lost it, but called me twice to ask where it was.

MUSE 06-18-2008 10:49 PM

hahahahahahahahaha :rofl:

vince big dummy!

Legend Killer 06-18-2008 10:49 PM

THANKS, I forgot about the Neilsens.

Afterlife 06-18-2008 10:52 PM

Well, since my personal experience involved them losing their own survey, I tend not to put too much weight in their "calculations". But that's the only ratings system in which I've had firsthand experience.

MUSE 06-18-2008 10:57 PM

million dollar mania sucks man

addy2hotty 06-19-2008 06:00 PM

Smackdown gets more viewers in the UK than Raw now.

That's funny.

Kane Knight 06-19-2008 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2193152)
Well, since my personal experience involved them losing their own survey, I tend not to put too much weight in their "calculations". But that's the only ratings system in which I've had firsthand experience.

It's also the only system that matters in terms of cable ratings. Of course, they also use TV Readers, devices which are hooked up to people's boxes. I'm not even sure the "TV Diary" method is still in service, though it may be. The boxes are more accurate, and so Nielsen started to favor them in the 90s.

Legend Killer 06-19-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2194136)
It's also the only system that matters in terms of cable ratings. Of course, they also use TV Readers, devices which are hooked up to people's boxes. I'm not even sure the "TV Diary" method is still in service, though it may be. The boxes are more accurate, and so Nielsen started to favor them in the 90s.

What about those like me who just a cable?

Kane Knight 06-19-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendKiller2007 (Post 2194154)
What about those like me who just a cable?

You don't count, though they're actually capable of getting the data. It's easier to get the data from a sample than to go through the hoops.

Afterlife 06-19-2008 08:32 PM

In my personal opinion, Neilson is like any other poll: suspect. Don't get me wrong, I'm no conspiracy theorist. I trust numbers; just not numbers the surveyors.

Xero 06-19-2008 08:39 PM

Doesn't really matter what YOU do or don't trust. You don't have a business based on that ratings system.

Whether it's accurate or not doesn't matter if the industry adheres to it.

Kane Knight 06-19-2008 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2194233)
In my personal opinion, Neilson is like any other poll: suspect. Don't get me wrong, I'm no conspiracy theorist. I trust numbers; just not numbers the surveyors.

Polls are fine as long as their methods are sound. Nielsen's aren't, since they currently don't cover a large variety of people and situations. However, that is moot, since:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2194248)
Doesn't really matter what YOU do or don't trust. You don't have a business based on that ratings system.

Whether it's accurate or not doesn't matter if the industry adheres to it.

What he said.

Afterlife 06-19-2008 09:13 PM

Yeah, I know. I'm not saying I matter. Simply stating my position, and the whys and wherefors.

Kane Knight 06-19-2008 09:26 PM

It's a bad reason.

Afterlife 06-19-2008 10:45 PM

Why is it a bad reason?

Kane Knight 06-20-2008 09:09 AM

Why would anyone believe it's not?

Mercury Bullet 06-20-2008 01:50 PM

Maybe it's time for WWE to address the issue of CRAPPY PROGRAMMING rather than just trying to bribe people into watching. And if these ratings are proof of anything, it's that Raw has been SO BAD that a lot of people don't think its worth watching even for the chance at a money.

Xero 06-20-2008 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury Bullet (Post 2195031)
Maybe it's time for WWE to address the issue of CRAPPY PROGRAMMING rather than just trying to bribe people into watching.

What are you talking about!? WWE programming is FRESH and INNOVATIVE!

Afterlife 06-20-2008 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2194821)
Why would anyone believe it's not?

See, now, you're doing that thing again where instead of actually saying something, you're trying to look superopr by saying nothing at all.

I'm just trrying to understand why you think it's bad of me not trust giant and/or national polls.


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