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Indifferent Clox 09-08-2008 12:10 AM

holy fucking spoiler shit
 
Before you click this, please be prepared to mark the fuck out because in what will be conidered by future generations as the return to grace of the WWE, the next high mark in wrestling, the greatest thing ever to happen in Cleveland, the next era begins here, it's simply the greatest thing to happen in several years... holy crap in a bag:

SPOILER: show
Chris Jericho is your new World Heavyweight Champion

Xero 09-08-2008 12:16 AM

Hunter has just requested his transfer to RAW.

parkmania 09-08-2008 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 2276292)
the only good thing ever to happen in Cleveland

Fixed.

Indifferent Clox 09-08-2008 12:16 AM

OMG I am still marking out

Londoner 09-08-2008 12:19 AM

JERICHO IS GREAT

Juan 09-08-2008 12:20 AM

That and the new stable easily made this PPV great.

CSL 09-08-2008 12:21 AM

I could understand this whole 'OMFG!!!' stuff if maybe Kendrick had won the WWE title or something but Jericho should have had multiple world titles by now only he's never been able to put all the pieces together. Tonight was more of a warm 'Well it's about time' moment instead of 'HOLY SHIT!!!!!!! JERICHO JERICHO JERICHO JERICHO!!'

Londoner 09-08-2008 12:23 AM

Stop ya moaning csl, enjoy the goddamn moment.

Indifferent Clox 09-08-2008 12:26 AM

SHUT YOUR DIRTY MOUTH MR CRAPPY MCSAD PANTS

Indifferent Clox 09-08-2008 12:27 AM

IF nothing else my Monday night Football v. raw decision has been made.

I'm pretty sure the WWE planned this.

Xero 09-08-2008 12:29 AM

I love how the exact same people who splooged over Punk winning the title are the same ones happy that he lost the title in one of the cheapest ways possible.

And before you say it, no, it was not a good way to make Punk look "good". It made him look extremely weak, like he wasn't even worthy to be in the match in which he lost the title. The ONLY way it's acceptable is if he's injured.

Londoner 09-08-2008 12:30 AM

I dunno whats up with punk, but im always gonna mark out if jericho wins the title.

Indifferent Clox 09-08-2008 12:32 AM

Punk winning was amazing, but he had to drop the title eventually, and now he has reason for a return match. He got punted in the fucking head and gang warfared by a new stable who are WREAKING HAVOC already, they have altered the course of WWE history, major heat for them.

Punk lost unfairly more heat for Jericho, sympathy for punk which if booked properly can turn into enthusiasm for punk.

I don't see how this is bad

THANK YOU FREDDIE PRINCE JR!

NeanderCarl 09-08-2008 12:36 AM

Umm... the same Freddie Prinze Jr who is on the SmackDown writing team?

Juan 09-08-2008 12:36 AM

How does it make him look weak? He was attacked, he was injured and was not able to wrestle. It makes sense in keyfabe terms. He slapped RKO at the end of Raw, so it makes sense that he would want revenge. Simply Priceless wants to impress RKO, so they take out the guy that disrespected him.

Indifferent Clox 09-08-2008 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2276361)
Umm... the same Freddie Prinze Jr who is on the SmackDown writing team?

it was a joke

thedamndest 09-08-2008 12:42 AM

It makes him look weak because he couldn't even haul himself down to the ring. If it had been HHH, Cena, or Batista they would have wrestled through the injury.

Londoner 09-08-2008 12:44 AM

Well considering the way they've been booking ortons kicks to the head, it wouldn't make sense for punk to overcome it.

thedamndest 09-08-2008 12:48 AM

But Jericho can overcome the beating of his life by HBM to go on to win the title?

Oh, but that was earlier in the night.

Londoner 09-08-2008 12:49 AM

Jericho didn't do much though did he. He just walked in the ring and managed to get a pin.

Londoner 09-08-2008 12:50 AM

Its all scripted anyways, dunno why you get so upset over it.:D

Lock Jaw 09-08-2008 12:50 AM

Woohoo! Jericho as champ equals ratings.

Also, considering how terrible Punk's reign has been, this was a good move to make. Get the title off of Punk, where it should have never been, while not making him look weak or outclassed again. Set him up for a big serious feud against the new Orton stable, which in turn will actually allow for them to build Punk up as a legitimate star before putting him near the belt again.

Indifferent Clox 09-08-2008 12:54 AM

Punk's reign has been great STFU. This is also great. Everything is great.

Juan 09-08-2008 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 2276397)
Punk's reign has been great STFU.

Agreed. Just because he wasn't built up, and won the title the same way Edge did mind you, and because he didn't SuperCena his opponents, doesn't mean his reign was bad and it was not even close to how bad Rey Mastrio's reign was.

Also, the whole point of the MITB is that you have a title shot whenever you want. What's the point of the brief case if they're gonna build him so you know exactly when he's gonna cash it in?

thedamndest 09-08-2008 12:57 AM

I'm not upset over it. I'm just saying by that logic, Punk could have at least walked out too and valiantly tried to defend his title. He's been booked as the underdog all along, and to not do him that justice is the reason it makes him like Rey on sedatives.

JT 09-08-2008 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2276347)
I love how the exact same people who splooged over Punk winning the title are the same ones happy that he lost the title in one of the cheapest ways possible.

And before you say it, no, it was not a good way to make Punk look "good". It made him look extremely weak, like he wasn't even worthy to be in the match in which he lost the title. The ONLY way it's acceptable is if he's injured.

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Juan 09-08-2008 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2276402)
I'm not upset over it. I'm just saying by that logic, Punk could have at least walked out too and valiantly tried to defend his title. He's been booked as the underdog all along, and to not do him that justice is the reason it makes him like Rey on sedatives.

But the Orton kick to the head puts guys out for weeks.

Dorkchop 09-08-2008 01:02 AM

I liked Punk's reign and think he should have had the title for about 3 more months, but Jericho winning is great. I always prefer someone winning the title in an actual feud, but Jericho is currently the best heel on tv. Hopefully Punk and Jericho can get a nice feud going... while Punk still feuds with the new stable of Orton, Dibiase and Rhodes. It could be very interesting.

thedamndest 09-08-2008 01:08 AM

The Orton kick does put people out for weeks. I don't think they needed to do the Orton kick, number one. Number two, how much MORE badass would punk have looked if he came out and competed, clearly unfit. It would be a great time to lock in the Anaconda Vice since he'd be too weak for the GTS.

Indifferent Clox 09-08-2008 01:13 AM

the stable also consists of afa jr. btw

It is the fact that these two story lines so perfectly interlock, Jericho did beat Punk a few weeks ago but he was engaged with shawn michales, and the way he acted made him the biggest heel in all of the wrestling world right now.

He uses underhanded tactics to take a belt from a champion who has struggled so hard and always fought fairly and valiantly to keep his unlikely title and who wasn't even in the match.

The champion is taken out by a new stable that by doing this have created an impact and they have the belts, they have Orton the former champ, they have Afa Jr. (who is very excellent) and they have momentum, this group is another amazing heel group. They can now say they have altered the course of History.

So we have a huge new heel faction, that hasn't OFFICIALLY formed yet, but will probably come together and be named and since WWE is up against Monday Night Football tomorrow you know they are gonna pull something huge, this really could be the next big era in pro wrestling here.

Ever since the Draft WWE has been consistently getting better, and this... this is a time when some big things are happening and we are gonna remember this.

CM Punk Face champion, loses his title unfairly, that is shitty, it should piss you off in a kayfabe way and even deeper than that because fuck he hasn't been treated 'properly' by the WWE. WWE is catering to both smarks and marks here.

But they give us Jericho the king of the IWC as our new champion, a heel champion, a sell out, an asshole. He is one of the greatest heels of all time and has been engaged in one of the greatest fueds of all time. He has an automatic draw with punk. He will probably have a match with Batista again. When HBK comes back this title only sweetens the pot.

El Fangel 09-08-2008 01:18 AM

I hope WWE has some stable-warfare, that was always entertaining in the old WWF, If you had the likes of Evolution minus Orton feuding with Ortons group, that would have been awesome.

Indifferent Clox 09-08-2008 01:22 AM

I don't think they need another stable per say.

I don't think they need to force one together anyway. This one happened quite perfectly, and they might have some faces try and stop them, but I think their reign should be long.

Afa should get the IC title, Orton the world (eventually) and simply priceless can keep the tag championship.

If they get natalie Neidhart in on the deal over from smackdown, that just sweetens it.

One amazing thing about old school wwe was that the storyline's all interweaved it wasn't like autonomous feuds of today, the whole show had this feeling and while many things went on they often effected the whole locker room.

This is that again.

El Fangel 09-08-2008 03:08 AM

Clox, I agree now that I have thought about it, they could have Ortons group, as a proper stable, be fought back against by a group of people who they have attacked, not a stable per se, but a common interest to kick some ass.

Rammsteinmad 09-08-2008 03:18 AM

YES YES YES!!! This is awesome!!! I hope CM Punk get's a rematch so we can see a Chris Jericho VS CM Punk rivalry for the title.

El Fangel 09-08-2008 03:19 AM

I think WWE could make a very nice feud from this, you see I said COULD

Juan 09-08-2008 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 2276630)
YES YES YES!!! This is awesome!!! I hope CM Punk get's a rematch so we can see a Chris Jericho VS CM Punk rivalry for the title.

I really hope this happens soon.

AKin3D 09-08-2008 04:35 AM

I just wonder where Kofi is gonna fall into this whole thing. I mean he did get his ass handed to him too.

Juan 09-08-2008 04:38 AM

He'll have a few matches with Afa Jr.

Impact! 09-08-2008 05:32 AM

And no one is celebrating The Brian Kendricks short WWE Title "run" :D

Mr. Nerfect 09-08-2008 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2276347)
I love how the exact same people who splooged over Punk winning the title are the same ones happy that he lost the title in one of the cheapest ways possible.

And before you say it, no, it was not a good way to make Punk look "good". It made him look extremely weak, like he wasn't even worthy to be in the match in which he lost the title. The ONLY way it's acceptable is if he's injured.

The kick Punk took to the head is lethal. In storyline terms, it put Shawn Michaels, Rob Van Dam (who hasn't been an active performer since) and Dusty Rhodes on the shelf. I don't think we have seen Dusty since. You're thinking the way a smark things. Stop that. To a mark, Punk looks wronged, the Princes of Pro-Wrestling look like mega-cunts, and the fans want to see Punk and Kofi Kingston get some revenge.


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