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Rollermacka 09-29-2008 02:40 PM

Should they bring in/back more managers?
 
I like that they have teamed Tony Atlas with Mark Henry, even though I dont like Khali and Singh but I was thinkin should they bring in/back more mangers? I mean look at Powers of Pain or Demolition, on there own two decent big guy wrestler tag teams but you add Mr. Fuji and it made things even better. You can take two decient sized guys today that arent really going anywhere like Snitsky and Neely, give them a good manager and you got a something to work with. Would you like to see some people brought in as just managers or maybe bring back some former wrestlers to help cut some promos?

BigDaddyCool 09-29-2008 02:44 PM

They should, but WWE feels every wrestler needs to be self suffiecent and do everything themselves. But that takes away from guy who are great in the ring, have charasima and all that but can't cut a promo to save their lives.

GD 09-29-2008 02:54 PM

A part of Brock's wwe success can be credited to Paul Heyman.

BigDaddyCool 09-29-2008 02:58 PM

Most of Brock's success can be credited to Paul Heyman. If Brock was put out there without Heyman, he wouldn't have had half his mystique.

Hanso Amore 09-29-2008 03:48 PM

I dont know if they should bring more, but at least one. Give a guy a stable of wrestlers, like Bolin in OVW.


Managers are a great way to help green hosses get over, somethin the WWE has not been able to do.

BigDaddyCool 09-29-2008 03:51 PM

I agree with MAH.

They need a few stables going.

Dorkchop 09-29-2008 04:10 PM

WWE should keep a few managers. Maybe two real managers per show.

Mr. Nerfect 09-29-2008 06:10 PM

Armando Estrada should go back to managing. Someone should try and make something of these lost new talents floating around, too.

NeanderCarl 09-29-2008 06:11 PM

Well, they had Armando Allejandro Estrada who brought a lot to Umaga on his debut. More recently, Runjin Singh (who adds nothing) and Tony Atlas, whose association with Mark Henry has made him more of a package deal (I rarely watch ECW, but it seems most people agree Henry is much more watchable as of late).

Managers can definitely help the cause. It would be nice to see a good old fashioned stable of wrestlers united by one manager, a group who don't neccessarily have to frequently collaborate on-screen as a team per se, just the fact that a manager has them all at his disposal, a la The Heenan Family who would team up on occasion and help each other out, but wouldn't be exclusively seen together all the time.

A former wrestler in the role would mean recognition from day one, perhaps some in-built heat if we're talking an old school heel, an ability to take a bump when required and the ability to teach his charges a few things, old school stylee.

If Jerry Lawler turned full-blown heel again, and slightly modified the 'King' gimmick to make it less about literal royalty and more about greatness, he could maybe make a good heel manager, in the old Bobby Heenan mould. Oh, he'd be no Heenan (nobody ever will) but he might be a modern day answer to him.

Mr. Nerfect 09-29-2008 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2299261)
Well, they had Armando Allejandro Estrada who brought a lot to Umaga on his debut. More recently, Runjin Singh (who adds nothing) and Tony Atlas, whose association with Mark Henry has made him more of a package deal (I rarely watch ECW, but it seems most people agree Henry is much more watchable as of late).

Managers can definitely help the cause. It would be nice to see a good old fashioned stable of wrestlers united by one manager, a group who don't neccessarily have to frequently collaborate on-screen as a team per se, just the fact that a manager has them all at his disposal, a la The Heenan Family who would team up on occasion and help each other out, but wouldn't be exclusively seen together all the time.

A former wrestler in the role would mean recognition from day one, perhaps some in-built heat if we're talking an old school heel, an ability to take a bump when required and the ability to teach his charges a few things, old school stylee.

If Jerry Lawler turned full-blown heel again, and slightly modified the 'King' gimmick to make it less about literal royalty and more about greatness, he could maybe make a good heel manager, in the old Bobby Heenan mould. Oh, he'd be no Heenan (nobody ever will) but he might be a modern day answer to him.

I'd like to see that, actually. If nothing else, it frees up a slot on color commentary, while Lawler is out doing his manager stuff. Maybe you meant that Lawler would manage and commentate at the same time, but I really hope not. At least not all the time.

I've got to say, the WWE keeping Ric Flair around as a manager would have been awesome. For some reason, I've always wanted to see Flair manage Charlie Haas. Add a little "flare" to his fantastic wrestling skills. Someone like Dolph Ziggler could use Flair as a manager, too. Have him occasionally show up on SmackDown! to be in the corner of a Gregory Helms or a Chavo Guerrero, too.

When he eventually retires, JBL would be an incredible manager. As would William Regal, when he steps out of the ring. Finlay as a "trainer" who accompanies his "students" could be cool, too. I'd actually like to see Josh Mathews get into managing. He's going to waste as a member of the "broadcast team," but if they had him show-up in some guys' corner, and occasionally slip onto commentary to get them over, it could be pretty cool. They could call themselves The Plethora Party! Look, I'm a regular Xero Limit...

I've always wanted to see Mike Adamle put together a super heel stable. Just make him a vain, stuck-up guy who doesn't really know the business, but has the money to put together a bunch of guys to take him to the top.

NeanderCarl 09-29-2008 06:24 PM

Nah, wouldn't want to see Lawler commentate full time as a manager, maybe just on occasion.

NeanderCarl 09-29-2008 06:28 PM

I don't even know why WWE insists on having set announce teams anyway, back in the day they'd generally have the same guys on each show but it wasn't exclusive. McMahon would usually host Superstars, with Ventura or Piper or Perfect or Hayes... Monsoon usually got Challenge, with Heenan, or J.R., or DiBiase... but the PPVs were hosted seemingly at random by varying teams. A bit of variety is always good.

Off on a total tangent, I know.

Xero 09-29-2008 06:38 PM

They should, yes.

parkmania 09-29-2008 06:44 PM

As long as the manager performs the role of mouthpiece, then I say :y:.
If it's ONLY to be an annoyance at ringside, then :n:.

Basically: Fugi, Heenan good; Kim-Chee, Melina (as manager) bad.

6to1 09-29-2008 06:52 PM

king would be good and maby bring piper in and start another heel stable

Hanso Amore 09-29-2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2299267)
I'd like to see that, actually. If nothing else, it frees up a slot on color commentary, while Lawler is out doing his manager stuff. Maybe you meant that Lawler would manage and commentate at the same time, but I really hope not. At least not all the time.

I've got to say, the WWE keeping Ric Flair around as a manager would have been awesome. For some reason, I've always wanted to see Flair manage Charlie Haas. Add a little "flare" to his fantastic wrestling skills. Someone like Dolph Ziggler could use Flair as a manager, too. Have him occasionally show up on SmackDown! to be in the corner of a Gregory Helms or a Chavo Guerrero, too.

When he eventually retires, JBL would be an incredible manager. As would William Regal, when he steps out of the ring. Finlay as a "trainer" who accompanies his "students" could be cool, too. I'd actually like to see Josh Mathews get into managing. He's going to waste as a member of the "broadcast team," but if they had him show-up in some guys' corner, and occasionally slip onto commentary to get them over, it could be pretty cool. They could call themselves The Plethora Party! Look, I'm a regular Xero Limit...

I've always wanted to see Mike Adamle put together a super heel stable. Just make him a vain, stuck-up guy who doesn't really know the business, but has the money to put together a bunch of guys to take him to the top.



Adamle should put together a heel group to attack Shane o Mac for over riding him (have it happen a few more times) and have him use them as a force to Usurp the power of Shane and kayfabe take over Raw and push out the McMahons, then Vince can come back and they fued.

Hanso Amore 09-29-2008 06:58 PM

Not Piper, he killed Sean O Haire. It shouldnt be a legend, cause they draw away from their guys. Mid Level guys like Atlas are ok, as would be a new type character.

NeanderCarl 09-29-2008 07:08 PM

Piper only killed O' Haire because they were so ill-suited for each other that it wouldn't have worked even if Piper was in his heel prime. That was a creative fuck up.

I certainly wouldn't say no to having one of wrestling's greatest villains and talkers as a mouthpiece. Piper would be a great manager, as long as his charge is complemented by his style.

Rollermacka 09-29-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 2299320)
Not Piper, he killed Sean O Haire. It shouldnt be a legend, cause they draw away from their guys. Mid Level guys like Atlas are ok, as would be a new type character.

I dont think he killed O'Hare's career, I think it was a combination of alot of things. He joined with Piper, completely changed his gimmick and then when they released Piper the had no where to go. They had him on Velocity for a while, and from some of the rumors I heard he hated that Vince wanted to make him a "monster kinda wrestler" limiting his moves to just a big pounding moves.

Mr. Nerfect 09-30-2008 01:12 AM

Yeah, Piper and O'Haire were just a bad mix. If Piper was managing, for example, Drew McIntyre, and called him the greatest young Scottish wrestler he could find, something like that might be beneficial.

Mr. Nerfect 09-30-2008 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2299276)
I don't even know why WWE insists on having set announce teams anyway, back in the day they'd generally have the same guys on each show but it wasn't exclusive. McMahon would usually host Superstars, with Ventura or Piper or Perfect or Hayes... Monsoon usually got Challenge, with Heenan, or J.R., or DiBiase... but the PPVs were hosted seemingly at random by varying teams. A bit of variety is always good.

Off on a total tangent, I know.

I'm fascinated by commentary teams, I really am. I don't think the WWE actually has a perfect commentary team on the go right now, and that's a sad thing. I'd love to see them get a little less rigid and a little more creative with their teams.

Rollermacka 09-30-2008 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2299972)
Yeah, Piper and O'Haire were just a bad mix. If Piper was managing, for example, Drew McIntyre, and called him the greatest young Scottish wrestler he could find, something like that might be beneficial.

I always thought they were gonna team Drew McIntyre with the Highlands after they got rid of Taylor. Correct me if I'm wrong but dont they have Drew teamed up with some other big brittish guy in FCW? Bring them to the main roster and have them managed by William Regal.


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