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Xero 10-22-2008 07:27 PM

Wrestlers no longer Superstars. Wrestling no longer 'Sports' Entertainment.
 
From PWInsider:

World Wrestling Entertainment informed all of their announcers this week to refer to their talent as "entertainers" as opposed to wrestlers or even Superstars, effective immediately.

According to numerous sources, the decision is part of a organized plan of attack towards getting WWE as a company re-classified as an entertainment touring event, as posed to a legitimate sporting event.

The internal hope within WWE management is that by doing this, they will take power away from the Athletic Commissions in certain States and keep the company from having to pay taxes on their events.

Obviously, this would also have the company benefit of preventing WWE from being held to the letter of the law in States like Georgia, who's Athletic Commission is looking at putting stricter restrictions on the professional wrestling industry following the Chris Benoit incident.

We'll have to see what comes of this and whether the strategy could even work, but that's why the change was made.

Destor 10-22-2008 07:30 PM

gay

Juan 10-22-2008 07:31 PM

that's so lame.

FourFifty 10-22-2008 07:32 PM

Well, it's still real to someone, damn it.

Destor 10-22-2008 07:33 PM

Saying "entertainer" during the match kills kayfabe. When you hear someone say "he's world class entertainer" (or whatever ever Matt Striker said last night) you immediatly killed all cradibility of the match. completely gay.

Destor 10-22-2008 07:33 PM

Suspension of disbelief is key to wrestling.

Xero 10-22-2008 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 2323373)
Well, it's still real to someone, damn it.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...llrealipod.gif

El Fangel 10-22-2008 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2323375)
Suspension of disbelief is key to wrestling.

Exactly. We have been believing for 7 years now that the industry will get better.

FourFifty 10-22-2008 07:36 PM

And in five years therse "Entertainers" will be called "Actors."
I'm not faulting WWE for doing this. It's about money and getting around some rules. However, it's still pretty gay, and some groups take wrestlng too seriously. Until the NFL has a script, wrestling should not be considered a sport.

thedamndest 10-22-2008 07:37 PM

As long as the Divas are still Divas.

Xero 10-22-2008 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 2323380)
And in five years therse "Entertainers" will be called "Actors."

It's sad, but that's where it's headed.

Xero 10-22-2008 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2323382)
As long as the Divas are still Divas.

Well Vince sure as hell isn't going to call them "Exotic Entertainers". That would open a whole new can of worms regarding rules, regulations and touching.

Tazz Dan 10-22-2008 07:38 PM

TPEW

Tazz Dan 10-22-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2323385)
Well Vince sure as hell isn't going to call them "Exotic Entertainers". That would open a whole new can of worms regarding rules, regulations and touching.

Unless Ashley returns :shifty:

Jeritron 10-22-2008 07:41 PM

So Wrestlemania is going to become Entertainia?

Xero 10-22-2008 07:41 PM

WEE
ECE
WCE
AEA

FourFifty 10-22-2008 07:44 PM

I bet Vince Sr. is rolling in his grave.

HeartBreakMan2k 10-22-2008 08:31 PM

And Paul E.'s worked shoot from the invasion slowly becomes more and more of a reality.

KYR 10-22-2008 08:34 PM

Vince can call them what he likes but as far as the "law" is concerned it must surely be an irrelevance.

It would be like beer companies calling their product "hop beverages" as a way of avoiding government excises - it just wouldn't work.

Simply changing the name of something can't possibly exclude it from governing laws - or can it?

Destor 10-22-2008 08:38 PM

Them calling entertainment is more accurate then them calling it wrestling though.

Jeritron 10-22-2008 08:55 PM

I can think of a few things they can call it that would be more appropriate than either

Fox 10-22-2008 09:24 PM

I can just see the braintrust at work on this one.

SOAP WRITER: Vince, I really think that part of improving the shows is to improve the image of the people ON the shows.

VINCE: Hmm... go on.

SOAP WRITER: Well, first of all, this is World Wrestling ENTERTAINMENT, right? So instead of calling the guys something lame like "superstars" we should call them what they are: Entertainers. This is World Wrestling Entertainment, and these are the Entertainers!

JR: That is terrible.

VINCE: I love it. Let's do it.

Theo Dious 10-22-2008 11:39 PM

Don't entertainers wear suits?
--Dana Carvey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2323502)
I can just see the braintrust at work on this one.

SOAP WRITER: Vince, I really think that part of improving the shows is to improve the image of the people ON the shows.

VINCE: Hmm... go on.

SOAP WRITER: Well, first of all, this is World Wrestling ENTERTAINMENT, right? So instead of calling the guys something lame like "superstars" we should call them what they are: Entertainers. This is World Wrestling Entertainment, and these are the Entertainers!

JR: That is terrible.

VINCE: I love it. Let's do it.

I object to your parody on the grounds that it makes it look like JR is a sensible individual.

Loose Cannon 10-22-2008 11:46 PM

I am going to become the greatest wrestling entertainer this world has ever seen :mad:

DaVe 10-23-2008 01:02 AM

I object to your parody on the grounds that it makes it look like JR is a sensible individual.

Eh? I don't get the joke, or point, or whatever. JR is one of the biggest advocates of the WWE being more wrestling oriented, instead of 2 hours of a poor second-rate entertainment show.

Kane Knight 10-23-2008 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2323429)
Them calling entertainment is more accurate then them calling it wrestling though.

Though neither is really accurate these days.

The more important point is KYR is right. This is putting lipstick on a pig. No offense to Sarah Palin. Changing the name isn't going to let them dodge the bullets they want to dodge.

Destor 10-23-2008 01:09 AM

Totally disagree. Wrestling should in no way be governed by state athletic commissions. Whatever governs the circus should govern wrestling, the WWE is completely right in trying to change it.

Hate them calling their wrestlers anything else though. Be like calling actors by their real names during movies. Kills the expirience.

Lux 10-23-2008 01:20 AM

Oh god, seriously the worst move in history... for now.

KYR 10-23-2008 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2323708)
Totally disagree. Wrestling should in no way be governed by state athletic commissions. Whatever governs the circus should govern wrestling, the WWE is completely right in trying to change it.

Hate them calling their wrestlers anything else though. Be like calling actors by their real names during movies. Kills the expirience.

I wasn't (and I don't believe KK was implying) that wrestling should be governed by the athletic commissions.

We were merely making the point that whatever the WWE decides to call "wrestling/wrestlers" will not change the fact that they would still come under those state jurisdictions.

Destor 10-23-2008 01:26 AM

I hope you weren't.

KYR 10-23-2008 01:27 AM

Oh and I love the Sarah Palin/Lipstick on a pig analogy :lol:

Shadow 10-23-2008 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2323369)
gay

Bout sums it up.

The Mackem 10-23-2008 06:27 AM

I fail to see where 'Superstar' is considered directly related to sport. If it is, then 'entertainer' can certainly fall under the same banner. I agree with what some of you were implying, WWE's arguments shouldn't be based on the wording of their business but proving that the business is not technically a sport regardless of the wording.

Afterlife 10-23-2008 06:59 AM

This is all so silly.

Lord-Of-Darkness 10-23-2008 10:35 AM

"Tune in tonight to see these two top class entertainers lock up!"

It sounds more like an ad for Celebrity Death Match or something.

I wasn't all for superstar, but in comparison it at least sounded like it belonged in a 'sport' environment. This is just terrible.

Fabien Barthez 10-23-2008 01:23 PM

Could all this have any bearings on the stringency or even function of TWP? It's not like you have to be piss tested to work on The Young and the Restless...

KingofOldSchool 10-23-2008 01:29 PM

Can parents hire them to appear at their kid's birthday parties now?

Xero 10-23-2008 01:50 PM

They'd rather have He-Man.

KingofOldSchool 10-23-2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero Limit 126 (Post 2324114)
They'd rather have He-Man.

Why He-Man when they can have SuperCena?

Savio 10-23-2008 02:10 PM

I think they should be able to call them superstars


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