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Dorkchop 12-03-2008 08:28 PM

Dolph Ziggler
 
Did I actually find him entertaining against Batista?

Lock Jaw 12-03-2008 08:37 PM

I know I did. He got in a surprising amount of offense and there was a faint "Ziggler" chant going.

DaVe 12-03-2008 08:38 PM

Yes, that might've been it. I enjoyed him too.

Also, it's good to be back.

Dorkchop 12-03-2008 08:41 PM

What surprised me the most was that he got a reaction. Now I can't wait to see him in the ring next week on Raw. I just hope he doesn't squash someone. Squash matches are meant for boring hosses. I guess I should hope D'Lo has the night off.

Londoner 12-03-2008 08:45 PM

I liked him also tbh, surprisingly!

Dorkchop 12-03-2008 09:10 PM

From what I've seen I like his style. His elbow drop to Batista was pretty sweet and reminded me of WCW, vs nWo Revenge. I wonder how he can carry himself in a nice lengthy match

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Juan 12-03-2008 10:07 PM

Yeah, that kick he delivered from the outside was pretty sweet looking.

Johnny Rockstar 12-03-2008 10:13 PM

Nice little match there. Also gotta dig his greasy 1991 WCW mullet.

Xerzes 12-04-2008 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2351726)
Yeah, that kick he delivered from the outside was pretty sweet looking.


IC Champion 12-04-2008 02:04 AM

He was actually decent, wasn't he is Spirt Squad?

Juan 12-04-2008 02:17 AM

Yup, NICKY!

FourFifty 12-04-2008 04:00 AM

I cannot stand Dancin' Dave anymore.....

#BROKEN Hasney 12-04-2008 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 2351943)
I cannot stand Dancin' Dave <s>anymore</s>.....


Tb1 12-04-2008 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 2351943)
I cannot stand Dancin' Dave anymore.....

:y:

Yeah. Actually gotten worse lately. My friends a Bats mark, and I cannot for the life of me understand why.

FourFifty 12-04-2008 04:06 AM

During his Evolution run and his the start of his face turn I was a Dancin' Dave Mark. But now he does his little interptive dance on the way to the ring, his ring work is mid card at best, and I swear to christ that Abe "Knuckleball" Schwartz is a better promo than him.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-04-2008 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tb1 (Post 2351946)
:y:

Yeah. Actually gotten worse lately. My friends a Bats mark, and I cannot for the life of me understand why.

Maybe he has a thing for greased up roid abusers?

Tb1 12-04-2008 05:35 AM

Actually, you're completely right.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 12-04-2008 08:34 AM

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/3752/batistasmiley8fe.gif

Optimus Bone 69 12-04-2008 10:32 AM

Kind of reminded me of Curt Henning

Mr. Nerfect 12-04-2008 12:01 PM

I really enjoyed Dolph Ziggler on RAW. Maybe it's because the horrible name and the suspension made me completely lose interest in the very talented Nick Nemeth, but he just completely took me by surprise.

Is there some sort of heat on Batista? Between losing the World Heavyweight Championship as fast as he did, having his team lose to Team Orton, almost being an afterthought in main event happenings and almost getting pushed to the limit by Ziggler, I'm wondering if Batista and Brian Kendrick light it up together backstage at PPVs.

Anyway, the cheesy name, the nice guy attitude quickly spoiled by disrespect -- these are becoming charms and quirks that I could find myself liking. Dolph Ziggler for future Intercontinental Champion? I certainly hope so.

Dark-Slicer Diago 12-04-2008 12:21 PM

This Ziggler gimmick is quite impressive thus far, I just hope they don't drop the ball with it like they did so many other chances.

Mr. Nerfect 12-04-2008 12:52 PM

This is the first time in a while I've actually marked out for a guy -- even mildly. It just doesn't happen much anymore. If they can keep it up, more power to them.

One thing Ziggler does well, is draw heat. He's actually yet to do anything heelish since debuting. He stood with the heels in the Lumberjack Match between Randy Orton and CM Punk, I believe, but besides that, he's just introduced himself. Granted, they were in Batista's hometown, but it wasn't just nothing for Ziggler, it was good heat. And a few "Ziggler" chants coming from the audience.

BigDaddyCool 12-04-2008 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2352207)
This is the first time in a while I've actually marked out for a guy -- even mildly. It just doesn't happen much anymore. If they can keep it up, more power to them.

One thing Ziggler does well, is draw heat. He's actually yet to do anything heelish since debuting. He stood with the heels in the Lumberjack Match between Randy Orton and CM Punk, I believe, but besides that, he's just introduced himself. Granted, they were in Batista's hometown, but it wasn't just nothing for Ziggler, it was good heat. And a few "Ziggler" chants coming from the audience.

So, you don't mark out for Mike Knox, Jack Swagger, Charlie Haas, um, who else is boring that you always carry on and on about that actually wrestles? Anyhow, I'm calling bullshit.

BTW, I have no problem with Dolph Ziggler. In fact him going around and introducing himself is an angle i thought could work back in the day. I hope he doesn't violate the wellness program again.

RGWhat316 12-04-2008 03:38 PM

Wow, my first post i can make in about 2 weeks. But that actually wasn't too bad of a match. I fully expected Dolph to be squashed in about a minute match if that. But that was fairly entertaining. Maybe Dolph can make some noise.

The Franchise 12-04-2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tb1 (Post 2351946)
:y:

Yeah. Actually gotten worse lately. My friends a Bats mark, and I cannot for the life of me understand why.

The only times I have REALLY enjoyed Batista was in the Punjabi Prison vs Khali (surprisingly) and WM 23 against Taker.

Mr. Nerfect 12-04-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2352216)
So, you don't mark out for Mike Knox, Jack Swagger, Charlie Haas, um, who else is boring that you always carry on and on about that actually wrestles? Anyhow, I'm calling bullshit.

BTW, I have no problem with Dolph Ziggler. In fact him going around and introducing himself is an angle i thought could work back in the day. I hope he does violate the wellness program again.

Nope. Not really. I think Jack Swagger has got a world of potential, but he's never made me "mark out." I think Mike Knox is solid for a brawler, and I really enjoyed his matches with Matt Hardy, Evan Bourne and Finlay on ECW. Charlie Haas being allowed to do something is cool, but will it actually go anywhere?

The last guy I marked out for was probably The Brian Kendrick.

BigDaddyCool 12-04-2008 10:33 PM

Yeah, and what happened to the Brian Kendrick? A lot of nothing. Have you not learned, you liking someone is the kiss of death.

Mr. Nerfect 12-04-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2352701)
Yeah, and what happened to the Brian Kendrick? A lot of nothing. Have you not learned, you liking someone is the kiss of death.

I like Chris Jericho, and he won the IC Title and two World Heavyweight Titles this year. The Kendrick's career is not over yet. Get off the pot. That's advice I'd give Kendrick, too.

BigDaddyCool 12-05-2008 04:12 PM

No, Kendrick's career is over. Also Jericho won the ic title only because they had to pull it off of Jeff Hardy. That and jericho's second title run this year was only so they could take it off batista without having him job to cena, thus allowing them to set up "cena bats 2: this time its for the title" at mania.

BigDaddyCool 12-05-2008 04:14 PM

Oh, almost forgot, Jericho's first world title run only came about because of some lame duck booking, and it completely sucked as well.

KingofOldSchool 12-05-2008 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2353266)
it completely sucked as well.

Much like Jericho's current run.

BigDaddyCool 12-05-2008 09:35 PM

Ziggler is ok, from that one match. I'll want to see more like it before saying he is going to be great.

Mr. Nerfect 12-05-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2353265)
No, Kendrick's career is over. Also Jericho won the ic title only because they had to pull it off of Jeff Hardy. That and jericho's second title run this year was only so they could take it off batista without having him job to cena, thus allowing them to set up "cena bats 2: this time its for the title" at mania.

Nah, Kendrick's career is still going. At least for the moment. Hardy was suspended after he dropped the IC Title to Jericho. One could guess that the WWE held off on his suspension until he dropped the belt to Jericho, but if you believe Jericho and sources, they didn't actually do that. It was to build to a Jericho/Hardy rivarly heading into Money in the Bank.

Jericho's first run this year seemed like it was a reward for his great work. Just a week prior you heard reports of how Vince McMahon was really digging Jericho's work.

I don't buy the second reign story. Batista held the World Heavyweight Title 8 days. The WWE had already been advertising Cena for Armageddon. Batista has also been made to look pretty...well, unspectacular in recent weeks. Losing to Team Orton (when really, Batista's team seemed like the logical choice as winners). Not to mention Cody Rhodes, Manu and Dolph Ziggler all getting in way more offense on Dave than would normally be expected of them. He also only got a lukewarm pop when he came out on RAW with the World Heavyweight Title. I think there are a number of factors contributing to Big Dave losing the belt.

Besides, regardless of what spin you put on them, they are World Title reigns. And each has a flip story that has just as much evidence supporting it. So, in other words, you just need to shut the fuck up because you don't really know.

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool (Post 2353334)
Much like Jericho's current run.

:| Jericho isn't champion. Also, his promo on RAW this week was fantastic.

Afterlife 12-05-2008 11:12 PM

It's good to see him DO something.

Afterlife 12-05-2008 11:13 PM

Dolph, I mean. Not Batista.

BigDaddyCool 12-05-2008 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2353413)
Nah, Kendrick's career is still going. At least for the moment. Hardy was suspended after he dropped the IC Title to Jericho. One could guess that the WWE held off on his suspension until he dropped the belt to Jericho, but if you believe Jericho and sources, they didn't actually do that. It was to build to a Jericho/Hardy rivarly heading into Money in the Bank.

Jericho's first run this year seemed like it was a reward for his great work. Just a week prior you heard reports of how Vince McMahon was really digging Jericho's work.

I don't buy the second reign story. Batista held the World Heavyweight Title 8 days. The WWE had already been advertising Cena for Armageddon. Batista has also been made to look pretty...well, unspectacular in recent weeks. Losing to Team Orton (when really, Batista's team seemed like the logical choice as winners). Not to mention Cody Rhodes, Manu and Dolph Ziggler all getting in way more offense on Dave than would normally be expected of them. He also only got a lukewarm pop when he came out on RAW with the World Heavyweight Title. I think there are a number of factors contributing to Big Dave losing the belt.

Besides, regardless of what spin you put on them, they are World Title reigns. And each has a flip story that has just as much evidence supporting it. So, in other words, you just need to shut the fuck up because you don't really know.

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KingofOldSchool 12-05-2008 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2353413)

:| Jericho isn't champion. Also, his promo on RAW this week was fantastic.

Where did I say that he was?

BigDaddyCool 12-06-2008 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool (Post 2353471)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2353413)
:| Jericho isn't champion. Also, his promo on RAW this week was fantastic.

Where did I say that he was?

You must forgive noid, he can't argue anything without putting words in other people's mouths. Even then he still has trouble winning.

Oh, and now noid will porbably claim that antognist are ganging up on him, or that I'm being some sort of hypocite. He will claim this because I just put words into his mouth completely ignoring the "probably."

Afterlife 12-06-2008 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool (Post 2353471)
Where did I say that he was?

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool (Post 2353334)
Much like Jericho's current run.

Right there. "Current", you see, means "current".

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2353478)
You must forgive noid, he can't argue anything without putting words in other people's mouths. Even then he still has trouble winning.

Oh, and now noid will porbably claim that antognist are ganging up on him, or that I'm being some sort of hypocite. He will claim this because I just put words into his mouth completely ignoring the "probably."

It has nothing to do with hypocracy. You're just jumping on any chance to attack a guy, regardless of what's going on. A guy whose posts you don't even read, if your claims are to be taken seriously.

Mr. Nerfect 12-07-2008 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool (Post 2353471)
Where did I say that he was?

BDC was talking about Jericho's first run as World Heavyweight Champion, and said it sucked, and you said his current run sucks. I assumed that we were on the topic of World Title runs, seeing as that was the subject being discussed.

Sorry, I didn't realise you had changed the point of discussion. Easy mistake to make seeing as their was no indicator of such.


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