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Slow 12-21-2008 05:31 PM

Jeff loves Raven
 
Is it just me or is Jeff Hardy becoming more and more like Raven?

Looks, style, promos - he even did Raven's arms out pose with the WWE title.

This also begs the question... Jeff or Raven?

Raven is king!

CSL 12-21-2008 05:33 PM

Maybe Raven IS Jeff Hardy?!!?!

Slow 12-21-2008 05:37 PM

No-one would see that coming! Except KoOS of course

Anybody Thrilla 12-21-2008 05:37 PM

I tend to enjoy Jeff Hardy matches more than Raven matches, but Raven promos more than Jeff Hardy promos.

GD 12-21-2008 05:40 PM

Jeff > Jeff

thedamndest 12-21-2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2371936)
I tend to enjoy Jeff Hardy matches more than Raven matches, but Raven promos more than Jeff Hardy promos.

How about a Jeff Hardy match with Johnny Polo on commentary?

IC Champion 12-21-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2371938)
How about a Jeff Hardy match with Johnny Polo on commentary?

Greatness.

Theo Dious 12-21-2008 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2371938)
How about a Jeff Hardy match with Johnny Polo on commentary?

Johnny Polo > Raven so FUCK YEAH.

KingofOldSchool 12-21-2008 06:13 PM

Well the druggies got to stick together.

Lock Jaw 12-21-2008 06:20 PM

Have YOU ever seen JEff Hardy and Raven in the same place?

Shadow 12-21-2008 07:00 PM

Yes...yes I have.

.44 Magdalene 12-21-2008 08:32 PM

Were you high at the time?

thedamndest 12-21-2008 08:47 PM

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This "Raven" looks suspect and even the King sounds confused...

thedamndest 12-21-2008 08:49 PM

Nevermind, it's Raven. I recognize the jobbing.

AKin3D 12-22-2008 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 2371956)
Have YOU ever seen JEff Hardy and Raven in the same place?

Sometimes I think that this is what messed up TNA the most.

CSL 12-22-2008 01:56 AM

Yeah, that's definitely not Jeff vs. Raven. I mean, check out 'Raven's' garb. That's Fake Raven

Lux 12-22-2008 02:20 AM

Thed, I fell of my chair when I read your post.

Jeritron 12-22-2008 02:24 AM

I'd rather not compare them, but I do feel they're of similar appeal to the masses. Raven was really over in 1998 with the mainstream audiences, in a similar fashion to how Jeff is. The difference is that WWE has put the world title on Jeff and put him in some high profile matches/fueds, where WCW wasted Raven.
He was on the cover of Revenge, that's about it.

Other than their mysterious edginess, and grungey look, they're not very similar workers. They def strike the same cord with crowds who don't judge movesets, psychology, or promos though.
They both have their strengths and weakness.
I don't know, Raven is really talented in my mind and might have more "skill" than Jeff, but Jeff has more of that intangible "it" factor.
I like them both a lot.

Jeritron 12-22-2008 02:28 AM

Just realized that Jeff Hardy is the latest, and probably last ever, Grand Slam Champion. Christian is the only other guy with an outside shot.

CSL 12-22-2008 02:39 AM

Maybe Hacksaw will find the European title in the trash someday

Mr. Nerfect 12-22-2008 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2372493)
Just realized that Jeff Hardy is the latest, and probably last ever, Grand Slam Champion. Christian is the only other guy with an outside shot.

William Regal may not be completely out of the running, either. I was pretty sure he was going to win the WWE Championship from Triple H last year, before he got suspended and Triple H got drafted to SmackDown!.

It'll take a while now, but I wouldn't rule it out.

And then there is Matt Hardy, who could very realistically climb the rankings of the WWE, too.

thedamndest 12-22-2008 03:16 AM

No no. WWE reached their one Hardy quota for the WWE Title.

Mr. Nerfect 12-22-2008 05:19 AM

Then they're wasting a better talent just a bit lower on the card.

BigDaddyCool 12-22-2008 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2372096)
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This "Raven" looks suspect and even the King sounds confused...

Raven looked really good for Raven in that match.


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