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BigDaddyCool 01-19-2009 02:36 PM

I think it is fairly clear WWE needs to turn one of their major raw stars.
 
The whole Raw mainevent scene is stagnet. I mean how many times can we see face Cena v heel JBL, or heel Orton, or tweener HBK? Seriously one of the top guys needs to have a full turn, but who?

Discuss

Oh, Jericho would be pointless because he just turned heel.

RGWhat316 01-19-2009 02:38 PM

Orton seems to be the closest to turning face right now, but I don't really want to see that happen since I think they have a good thing going now with his character.

But since they love to bring alot of things back, I would be all for a JBL face turn. He was a great comedy face, not to mention he has been a heel for almost 5 years now.

BigDaddyCool 01-19-2009 02:41 PM

I would like to see them balls up and make either Rey or Cena heel, they have never faced off.

Hanso Amore 01-19-2009 02:52 PM

Turn CM Punk Heel.

Feud him with Cena for a month, nice little filler.

Jeritron 01-19-2009 02:53 PM

I think the best approach from a creative standpoint would be Cena, but they have business interests as well and that's not going to happen.

Batista as a heel would have been a nice change of pace, but he's gone for a while. I'd prefer HBM as a heel ala 1997, but that's also not going to happen because he doesn't want to and has the clout to say no.
Rey as a heel is risky, because although it would be fresh, it could be ridiculous. He works better as the loveable underdog. He'd be a pipsqueek heel like Santino, unless they built him up as having a mean streak and being a badass (which would be laughable).

So yea, I don't know what they could do. They have options creatively, but other things are holding it back.
Best bet is probably to have CM Punk go heel, and start acting like an ass and cutting egotistical promos and the like.

BigDaddyCool 01-19-2009 02:58 PM

I would make Rey just a charity case/bad attitude heel. Everything happens to him. He could get on a real jerk streak constantly bitching about how unfair everything is for a man his size, I know I'm stealing the idea from someone here cause it was a good idea. He could weasel the title away from Cena pulling shit where he has a clear advantage.

Then when Bats comes back from injury, they could do have him confront his old friend Rey about how he has been acting. Rey would throw everything back in Bats's face saying he doesn't understand cause of his size and just piss Bats off. I would have batista win the title off Rey at that point, then Bats would go to Cena saying Cena got robbed of the title and offer him a title shot. That would make a good series.

thedamndest 01-19-2009 02:59 PM

Is it an odd week? Kane should be turning face.

But Cena or Rey would be the best choices.

BigDaddyCool 01-19-2009 03:00 PM

Kane doesn't count because no one would care.

Jeritron 01-19-2009 03:02 PM

CM Punk could be a great heel for them, but the best type of heel he could be would be fairly similar to the current incarnation of Jericho as heel.

Basically, they should wait.

Impeccable 01-19-2009 03:03 PM

It's been a while, but I think they should move Big Show over to Raw. I think a heel Big Show would fit on the Raw roster at the moment...build him up on Smackdown with a lengthy run and then do a talent trade or something.

I'm not sure turning anyone currently on raw would have any effect really.

BigDaddyCool 01-19-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impeccable (Post 2402665)
I'm not sure turning anyone currently on raw would have any effect really.

That is because you are retarded.

Jeritron 01-19-2009 03:09 PM

All I know about Raw is, I'm terribly uninterested in what they bring to the table with their roster.
It's not that I dislike the guys on Raw, I'm just bored with the current arangement. The only guy/angle I'm still interested in is pretty much Jericho. HBM is always gold, but even he can't really save his current storyline.

In general, I'm far more interested in Smackdown, even though life prevents me from ever catching it live. I wish Smackdown as it is now was Monday night Raw. Edge, HHH, Jeff Hardy, Taker and the rest of the lot is far more interesting to me for whatever reason these days. Also, if Christian ends up there they're one HBM or Jericho trade away from being far and away the best roster in years.

Afterlife 01-19-2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2402656)
I would make Rey just a charity case/bad attitude heel. Everything happens to him. He could get on a real jerk streak constantly bitching about how unfair everything is for a man his size, I know I'm stealing the idea from someone here cause it was a good idea. He could weasel the title away from Cena pulling shit where he has a clear advantage.

Then when Bats comes back from injury, they could do have him confront his old friend Rey about how he has been acting. Rey would throw everything back in Bats's face saying he doesn't understand cause of his size and just piss Bats off. I would have batista win the title off Rey at that point, then Bats would go to Cena saying Cena got robbed of the title and offer him a title shot. That would make a good series.

Plus, if Rey were to start going weaponhappy, that'd help him with a legit badass nature. Not make it that he's any greater physical threat all of a sudden, but slowly put it in his head that he's been the underdog for years and it's time he evens the field. And just start chairing people left and right. Before their matches, so they're weaker, during the match when the ref's not looking -- heck, let's say next week it's Punk vs. Rey. So this week, after Punk's match, Rey appears in the ring and wails on him to soften him up. Make him brutal, but not stronger. That's hoe Rey is a legitimate heel.

BigDaddyCool 01-19-2009 03:12 PM

Rey could start demanding people tie an arm behind their back, or equally frustrating measures.

Afterlife 01-19-2009 03:14 PM

I don't think it'd work well if he was whiney about it, tho. Simply because of how long he's bragged about it. NOt bragged. But you know.

Impeccable 01-19-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2402667)
That is because you are retarded.

I think you've got me mixed up with 'Noid

BigDaddyCool 01-19-2009 04:20 PM

You can both be retarded.

Mr. Nerfect 01-19-2009 08:47 PM

John Cena turning after WrestleMania would be one of the most exciting things they could do.

thedamndest 01-19-2009 08:50 PM

Why not before? He's gonna get booed out of the arena anyway.

.44 Magdalene 01-19-2009 08:51 PM

Face Khali

Mr. Nerfect 01-19-2009 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2403084)
Why not before? He's gonna get booed out of the arena anyway.

They could do it before, but something like that needs a trigger. Unless they have a mammoth face wrestle Cena at WrestleMania (like The Undertaker or Stone Cold Steve Austin), I cannot see him turning heel.

Fox 01-19-2009 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2402641)
I would like to see them balls up and make either Rey or Cena heel, they have never faced off.

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BigDaddyCool 01-19-2009 10:00 PM

Well they haven't faced off in a long time then. It would at least be a fresh fued.

KYR 01-19-2009 10:29 PM

I think RAW needs something new and innovative.

Like a series of debates between Khali and Umaga. :shifty:





Actually, as a one-off, that could be quite comical.

Heyman 01-20-2009 02:32 AM

If it was up to me, I would try to convert John Cena into a heel, but Orton (and Team Legacy) would have to turn face to counter....and this won't be happening anytime soon.

Bring back RVD on a HHH-less show. :y:

Either that, or elevate CM Punk again.

Taker being on RAW again...as a face....could also freshen things up. Who knows.

Mr. Nerfect 01-20-2009 03:24 AM

I think Taker should definitely get one last run on RAW before he retires. I'd love to see a heel John Cena vs. face CM Punk feud this year, too.

BigDaddyCool 01-20-2009 09:13 AM

Taker and Cena haven't faced off for a long time if at all.

Ruien 01-20-2009 09:24 AM

Facts,

1. John Cena will not turn heel.

2. Rey will not turn heel.

3. Orton will not turn face.

A Matt Hardy turn would be golden, and having Christian comeback to be on Jeff Hardy's side. Besides that, HHH being a heel could be nice. Could be............

BigDaddyCool 01-20-2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 2404114)
A Matt Hardy turn would be golden, and having Christian comeback to be on Jeff Hardy's side. Besides that, HHH being a heel could be nice. Could be............

I'm talking about Raw, not ECW/Smackdown

Legend Killer 01-20-2009 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2403941)
I think Taker should definitely get one last run on RAW before he retires. I'd love to see a heel John Cena vs. face CM Punk feud this year, too.


Only way Taker would work in my eyes is having him go back to the American Bad Ass Gimmick, I'm bored with the Deadman gimmick, at least when I heard "American Bad Ass" and "Rollin" played as Taker came to the ring, I got amped and marked out, using his old entrance music as he does today is boring and I can't give him a pop for it.

Anyone else feel this way?

Afterlife 01-20-2009 01:38 PM

I'd like him to have better music, yes. Retarded, lame, generic Underbiker? No.

XL 01-20-2009 05:32 PM

I dunno, with the mention of Taker going back to Raw I kinda liked the idea of a Taker v Punk programme...but I saw it with Biker Taker. I guess it'd kinda be like the small fued between Taker and Jeff Hardy back in the day.

So I wouldn't mind seeing BikerTaker return but it'd seem awkward having gone from Deadman to Biker then back to Deadman and then back again.

Afterlife 01-20-2009 06:17 PM

Yes. Also, it would be lame.

XL 01-20-2009 07:29 PM

Coming from a guy that likes The Beserker and Battle Kat? :p

FourFifty 01-21-2009 12:20 AM

I've been saying it since his promos about how he's going to be on ECW- CM Punk as a heel is money in the goddamn bank.

Jeritron 01-21-2009 12:24 AM

The Christian-Jeff vs Matt-Edge storyline would be very cool. I think having Matt align with Edge would be very interesting, for obvious reasons, and a great way to help Matt get heat as a heel.

But, I think the long awaited and obvious prospect of E&C vs The Hardys is cut and dry the way to go at first. It's too perfect and exciting not to tap into right away.
The storyline you suggest would be awesome, but more interesting down the road.

Vastardikai 01-22-2009 01:35 AM

Cole: My God, He loaded a weapon into that boot and hit the 619. What kind of low down scum bag IS Rey Misterio!

King: Puppies!

Afterlife 01-22-2009 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 2404776)
Coming from a guy that likes The Beserker and Battle Kat? :p

I never said I liked Berserker. I thought Berserker was astonishing. Not in a good way, but astonishing that it happened. Battle Kat, however, was the goods. :p

Innovator 01-22-2009 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 2406685)
Cole: My God, He loaded a weapon into that boot and hit the 619, VINTAGE MYSTERIO. What kind of low down scum bag IS Rey Misterio! NOT THIS WAY

King: Puppies!


Alan The Rapist 01-22-2009 03:10 PM

wtf is Battle Kat?


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