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Exyle 01-28-2009 11:32 AM

Matt Hardy to SmackDown is all well and good, but...
 
Why would Teddy Long just let him leave? That's the biggest "name" on your brand; surely, you could get a nice trade from SD. This would be like a sports team letting their star player switch to another team while he's still under contract, and expecting nothing in return.

And there are plenty of names on that roster who could benefit from a healthy face push on ECW.

Hurricane Helms could be a great face and fresh feud for Swagger.
R-Truth is pretty stagnant; switch him and let him get over.
Carlito as ECW's top face would be an interesting change; just need to get the tag belts off of him.

So, anyway. Just seems silly to me. I guess this is WWE logic, though.

Anybody Thrilla 01-28-2009 11:37 AM

I was thinking the same thing. Pretty ridiculous to just let him go without a trade. It's like Theddy wants ECW to suck.

Nark Order 01-28-2009 11:40 AM

They could ave at least pulled an angle where Teddy was so disgusted with the actions of Matt that he granted him his elease but yeah, I agree. Seemed a bit wierd to just let your MVP go without any compensation.

Xero 01-28-2009 11:40 AM

It's clearly a personal favor dating back to the time the Hardy Boyz almost lost the titles but Teddy gave them a fast count for the win.

Anybody Thrilla 01-28-2009 11:41 AM

He follows up the announcement of Matt Hardy's departure with an announcement that we will be seeing The Boogeyman in action TONIGHT! What a kick in the junk that was.

Fox 01-28-2009 11:41 AM

Teddy is just a good guy like that I guess. In kayfabe, Matt came to him either before or after the Royal Rumble (probably before) and explained to him how badly he needed to be on the same brand as his brother, saying that he was unhappy in ECW and needed to change or continue to be depressed about his place in the company, and Teddy gave it to him.


Or Matt did some sex favors for Edge. Not gay sex favors - more like Edge convincing Vickie to blind-fold her during sex, and Edge slipped out of the room while Matt took his place on the job (aka "the old switcheroo"). Edge then convinces Vickie to sign Matt for helping him win the WWE Title.

Xero 01-28-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2414807)
Teddy is just a good guy like that I guess. In kayfabe, Matt came to him either before or after the Royal Rumble (probably before) and explained to him how badly he needed to be on the same brand as his brother, saying that he was unhappy in ECW and needed to change or continue to be depressed about his place in the company, and Teddy gave it to him.

But if it was before the Rumble, why would Teddy allow Matt to switch brands when he could win the ECW title and take it with him?

That's an oversight Vince could never make.

Fox 01-28-2009 11:48 AM

Matt agreed to throw the match to help Teddy build a new top star on the show prior to his leaving. Teddy, being the sly shyster that he is, agreed.

Xero 01-28-2009 11:48 AM

Still, he could have screwed Teddy. In fact, he should have, given his turn.

Fox 01-28-2009 11:52 AM

Maybe Teddy didn't sign the contract until after he tossed the match?

Xero 01-28-2009 11:53 AM

Maybe we're over-thinking this and this is just a case of WWE logic?

Mr. Nerfect 01-28-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2414804)
They could ave at least pulled an angle where Teddy was so disgusted with the actions of Matt that he granted him his elease but yeah, I agree. Seemed a bit wierd to just let your MVP go without any compensation.

Funny you should say that. Reading over the ECW report, I thought it would have been cool if Teddy had been so disgusted with Matt, that he no longer wanted him on his brand, so he traded him to Vickie Guerrero. Teddy then introduces us to ECW's newest Superstar...MVP.

Now that he is meant to be a face, MVP would do well on ECW, and could climb the ranks there overnight. It's fucking ECW, for crying out loud.

The only hole in the story is that Teddy and MVP haven't exactly been buddies - but MVP could come out, and thank Theodore Long for signing him onto his original contract, and even though they don't see eye-to-eye, he is just happy to be off the Vickie and Edge show. MVP can then promise Teddy Long he will earn back the figures he was making on SmackDown!.

Kane Knight 01-28-2009 12:18 PM

ECW isn't a real brand. That's where the sense comes in.

BigDaddyCool 01-28-2009 12:18 PM

They way I count it, ECW kinda only has 8 wrestlers now, and one fo them is injured. BTW, that list would be Boogen, DJ Gaberiel, Even Borne, Finlay, Swagger, Mark Henry, Paul Burchill, and Tommy Dreamer. I don't count Miz and Morrison because they spend more time on Raw, and Chavo spends a lot of time on Smackdown. So getting rid of Matt Hardy is really dumb.

JT 01-28-2009 01:52 PM

Looking at the roster on WWE.com, the two biggest draws in the brand right now are Finley and Mark Henry, and neither one is making me stay home to watch them on Tuesday Nights. Miz and Morrison are probably the biggest names on the roster, but they compete more on RAW then ECW these days, so it's not even point to mention they are there.

I also agree that a trade would have been a smart move, but maybe the company isn't seeing much of a future for ECW anymore.

parkmania 01-28-2009 07:13 PM

When's the contract with Sci-Fi up this time?

Kane Knight 01-28-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 2415505)
When's the contract with Sci-Fi up this time?

Does it matter? They will be pressured into signing WWE again.

thedamndest 01-28-2009 08:11 PM

DID YOU KNOW ECW IS THE HIGHEST RATED PROGRAM ON THE HOME SHOPPING NETWORK FOR 29 WEEKS IN A ROW!

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2415560)
DID YOU KNOW ECW IS THE HIGHEST RATED PROGRAM ON THE HOME SHOPPING NETWORK FOR 29 WEEKS IN A ROW!

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OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!

*EC DUB, EC DUB, EC DUB*

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:15 PM

a Don West joke also would have been acceptable here

thedamndest 01-28-2009 08:20 PM

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This guy is a spot monkey.

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:21 PM

He made the mistake of over-selling the knife shot, and as a result under-sold his quota.

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:21 PM

Nice run in at the end though. That guy handled it much better than Orton when HHH tore his quad.

Theo Dious 01-28-2009 08:22 PM

Has anybody considered that maybe T-Lo is thinking that he doesn't want some so-called main-eventer on his brand that loses to JACK SWAGGER?

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:23 PM

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Promo of the century.

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:26 PM

ROOKIES!

thedamndest 01-28-2009 08:28 PM

The guy on the left is inducting Austin.

thedamndest 01-28-2009 08:28 PM

FACTORY SET!

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:30 PM

I'm pretty sure I was watching it one night and they had Goldberg on the show

thedamndest 01-28-2009 08:31 PM

I'm going to walk into a memorabilia shop and tell the guy I have a 1987 Fleer FACTORY SET.

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:31 PM

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big face turn

ROCK BOTTOM!

thedamndest 01-28-2009 08:31 PM

lol 1994 Michael Jordan rookie card.

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:32 PM

That beanie baby came out of retirement faster than Terry Funk.


That beanie baby covers everything! He's never been pinned!

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:33 PM

"You have Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sinbad duking it out trying to get the last one!"

Glory. BOUND FOR GLORY!

thedamndest 01-28-2009 08:35 PM

Grown men with Beanie Babies are probably like the only men Trekkies could beat up.

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:37 PM

Are beanie babies worth anything now? In this economy they could be safer than gold.

Xero 01-28-2009 08:37 PM

He was looking on the local internets!

Theo Dious 01-28-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2415601)
Grown men with Beanie Babies are probably like the only men Trekkies could beat up.

I stand firm in my belief that your average Trekkie could beat up your average anime freak.

Jeritron 01-28-2009 08:38 PM

I love that they brought up rookie cards during the beanie babies pitch. All roads lead to rookie cards in those guys minds.

thedamndest 01-28-2009 08:39 PM

Oh yeah. Those guys were smarks before there were smarks.


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