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Kane Knight 02-04-2009 12:34 AM

Michaels last night...
 
I dunno. I've been interested in the angle, more or less. Seemed dumb to me, but it kept seeming interesting with JBL's delivery, and some level of drama in the outcome of matches, but now Michaels is crying and cowering?

Too far (Not in an "offended" sense, but as in straining the story)? EmoShawn was still a little dumb, but I have a lot more trouble buying him near tears and flinching away from Layfield than I have with him selling his soul and hating himself for it.

KYR 02-04-2009 12:44 AM

I know exactly where you're coming from.

For me, I've always associated Michaels as this "Couldn't give a rats"/anti-establishment/rule-breaking/devil-may-care/damn the consequences persona and now I'm expected to accept that he's turned into this snivelling, cowering pussy.

Stickman 02-04-2009 12:52 AM

HBK post Rockers and DX was the greatest of all time. Being a giant pussy doesn't seem right on him.

.44 Magdalene 02-04-2009 04:54 AM

HBK lost his smile


And by smile I mean balls

Dave Youell 02-04-2009 08:13 AM

I think this whole thing is about JBL breaking Shawn's spirit more than anything.

Savio 02-04-2009 09:11 AM

JBL punked him in the shower

RatedGSuperstar 02-04-2009 10:06 AM

The promo would've been just as effective with Shawn not being able to look JBL in the eye, staying quiet, and looking guilty like he's been for most of the storyline. The trembling lip was too much, and completely ruined it.

Kane Knight 02-04-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RatedGSuperstar (Post 2423648)
The promo would've been just as effective with Shawn not being able to look JBL in the eye, staying quiet, and looking guilty like he's been for most of the storyline. The trembling lip was too much, and completely ruined it.

That and flinching away. If they wanted to break him, doing it progressively would have worked better than just having him turn into a pussy in effectively one episode. I know there was a PPV this week and all, but considering how different he acted form just a week ago....

parkmania 02-04-2009 10:57 AM

I actually see JBL winning at NWO, running with his newly won name for a couple months while Shawn gets more and more depressed, until HHH gives him a wakeup call. Shawn then starts "inadvertantly" costing HBJBL matches, building up to purposely costing him matches, building up to Shawn getting one last chance at getting his identity back - which he'll then win.

What Would Kevin Do? 02-04-2009 01:11 PM

See, I took the trembling lip thing to be anger, not brokenness. Since JBL mentioned he couldn't touch him until NWO, and he was taunting him, I thought it was HBK's anger and frustration boiling over. Who knows though.

Juan 02-04-2009 02:24 PM

Dammit KK, update your sig.

mike adamle 02-04-2009 03:31 PM

what i've gotten out of the storyline is basically if shawn were to lose at no way out he'd become jbls slave... i mean this is america wwe... im not gonna believe hes a slave

Nark Order 02-04-2009 03:34 PM

lol, I want to see the ridiculous contract that says "owned for the rest of my life.". Come on.

Nark Order 02-04-2009 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 2424008)
what i've gotten out of the storyline is basically if shawn were to lose at no way out he'd become jbls slave... i mean this is america wwe... im not gonna believe hes a slave

Yeah, and he isn't even black. I mean, wtf!

wwe2222 02-04-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 2423854)
See, I took the trembling lip thing to be anger, not brokenness. Since JBL mentioned he couldn't touch him until NWO, and he was taunting him, I thought it was HBK's anger and frustration boiling over. Who knows though.

that was my assessment of the situation. He was angry and frustrated he couldnt do anything, not that he was pussing out.

Heyman 02-05-2009 03:30 PM

I predict that Shawn Michaels will overcome adversity.

Next year, and the following year, he will do the same.

The Optimist 02-05-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2424013)
lol, I want to see the ridiculous contract that says "owned for the rest of my life.". Come on.

I figured it meant basically selling "Shawn Micheals" not Micheal Hickenbottom, as in selling the rights to the name and the money that comes from it. So, HBK can do whatever he wants but any cash from his appearances as Shawn Micheals and HBK go to JBL. Sounded simple to me.

Kane Knight 02-05-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2423934)
Dammit KK, update your sig.

NEVAR!

Kane Knight 02-05-2009 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2423934)
Dammit KK, update your sig.

Better?

Juan 02-05-2009 07:57 PM

Yes, Thank you for your cooperation.

Kane Knight 02-05-2009 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Optimist (Post 2425340)
I figured it meant basically selling "Shawn Micheals" not Micheal Hickenbottom, as in selling the rights to the name and the money that comes from it. So, HBK can do whatever he wants but any cash from his appearances as Shawn Micheals and HBK go to JBL. Sounded simple to me.

JBL also said "I can make you do what I want."

Remember the monkey suit bit? You could argue it being hyperbole, but it's no more ridiculous than most wrestling plots.

Krimzon7 02-05-2009 09:08 PM

I GTS when I see JBL and HBK.

The Show Off 02-06-2009 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Know Your Role (Post 2423450)
I know exactly where you're coming from.

For me, I've always associated Michaels as this "Couldn't give a rats"/anti-establishment/rule-breaking/devil-may-care/damn the consequences persona and now I'm expected to accept that he's turned into this snivelling, cowering pussy.

Shawn Michaels hasn't been the devil-may-care person since 1998, where have you been?

Juan 02-06-2009 10:24 PM

I dunno, I noticed a change in Michaels' character when he returned from being punted by Randy Orton. Ever since then he's been basically using the same shtick

Krimzon7 02-07-2009 11:48 AM

Was that before or after Mania last year? It's all hazy to me...

Johnny Vegas 02-07-2009 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 2423854)
See, I took the trembling lip thing to be anger, not brokenness. Since JBL mentioned he couldn't touch him until NWO, and he was taunting him, I thought it was HBK's anger and frustration boiling over. Who knows though.



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