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Destor 02-09-2009 06:11 PM

Better Wrestler #59
 
We saw a blowout last time folks as CM Punk proved that when he says he's better than you, he's clearly talking about Samoa Joe. The last bout almost became a record holder as it now has the second highest number of votes of all time.

But now BW is about to get serious as this might be Punk's final match in this run. He only needs one more win to see the Hall of Fame, but he's gonna have to beat a living legend to do it:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../cm_punk03.jpg

VS

http://www.quickstopentertainment.co...05/jan27/3.jpg

Can CM Punk dig it? We'll find out in three days!

<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler History<OPTION>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</OPTION><OPTION>#3.RVD vs Mr. Perfect (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#4.Mr. Perfect vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#5.Mr. Perfect vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</OPTION><OPTION>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</OPTION><OPTION>#10.Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</OPTION><OPTION>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</OPTION><OPTION>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</OPTION><OPTION>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)<OPTION>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)<OPTION>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</OPTION><OPTION>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</OPTION><OPTION>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</OPTION><OPTION>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</OPTION><OPTION>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</OPTION><OPTION>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</OPTION><OPTION>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</OPTION><OPTION>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</OPTION>><OPTION>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)<OPTION>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</OPTION><OPTION>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</OPTION><OPTION>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</OPTION><OPTION>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</OPTION><OPTION>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</OPTION><OPTION>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</OPTION><OPTION>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)<OPTION>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</OPTION><OPTION>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</OPTION><OPTION>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</OPTION><OPTION>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</OPTION><OPTION>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</OPTION><OPTION>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</OPTION><OPTION>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</OPTION><OPTION>58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</OPTION></SELECT>

<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</OPTION><OPTION>Taz</OPTION><OPTION>Kurt Angle</OPTION></SELECT>

El Fangel 02-09-2009 06:14 PM

I voted not Punk.

I would have voted Macho Man anyways, but its the icing on the cake that I am voting somebody better then Punk because I like them better and not just because i dont like Punk.

Juan 02-09-2009 06:14 PM

I voted for Randy because I have a lot of great memories of him from his days in the WWF. I'm a Punk fan, but you just can't deny the awesomeness that was Randy Savage in the WWF. WCW though, not so much.

Lock Jaw 02-09-2009 06:19 PM

I vote for the Macho Man. Dig it!

thedamndest 02-09-2009 06:28 PM

I voted for Jay Lethal, OHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Fabien Barthez 02-09-2009 06:35 PM

I voted for Punk. He is a much better in ring storyteller, and his feuds have stood out in my mind much more vividly for how pwerfully they have been delivered.

ron the dial 02-09-2009 06:43 PM

ignoring childhood memories and going based on who has impressed me more in and out of the ring upon viewing now, i have to go with punk. maybe a few guys from the old days would go over punk for me, but not macho man.

Heros Welcome 02-09-2009 06:45 PM

For this vote it comes down to Punks entire career, which I have seen all of, against WCW Macho, because I never got the chance to see Macho in his WWF days. Thats something I really gotta get on since I have heard nothing but good things.

My vote goes to Punk, soley based on the fact that I feel he is the total package and when I compare him for all I have seen against WCW Macho, I'm siding with Punk. But I think its safe to say my vote won't be a deal breaker, since I think Macho will run away with this one.

mike adamle 02-09-2009 07:02 PM

punk is the better wrestler here, but macho is close to him

Fabien Barthez 02-09-2009 07:03 PM

I was obviously lying. Poffo for me.

Dorkchop 02-09-2009 07:09 PM

Wrestlemania 3.

Indifferent Clox 02-09-2009 07:10 PM

I enjoy both, Punk isn't a fucking cartoon charecter stereotype that fucks with the entire image of prowrestling.

Macho man isn't a straight edge possible poser with a history in ROH

so it was punk

Juan 02-09-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkchop (Post 2430040)
Wrestlemania 3.

:y:

Juan 02-09-2009 07:20 PM

Looks like we have another hot match on our hands

Good Ol JG 02-09-2009 08:07 PM

Punk is really good, but Savage is one of the most underrated wrestlers of all time and one of the top guys in the business for nearly 2 decades. This vote is easy.

Triple Naitch 02-09-2009 08:12 PM

I voted Punk, but now I may be regretting it. My Macho King action figure was one of my favorite toys of all time.

KYR 02-09-2009 08:12 PM

One of the easiest votes for me.

Macho Man (+ had one of my all-time favourite WWF/E women as his valet/manager :drool:)

Edit: :'(

El Fangel 02-09-2009 08:14 PM

I seriously want to smack everyone who voted for Punk.

I can however neg all of you :)

screech 02-09-2009 08:14 PM

I've seen more of Punk than I have the Macho Man, so I have to go with Punk.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heros Welcome (Post 2430018)
But I think its safe to say my vote won't be a deal breaker, since I think Macho will run away with this one.


Triple Naitch 02-09-2009 08:20 PM

Oh shit I found it! It came with a crown and a sceptor.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/...7279ea.jpg?v=0

Krimzon7 02-09-2009 08:31 PM

I voted for savage. One of the reasons that Hogan was so over was because Macho helped put him over. There was only ONE other person who could hold thier own as a mega power. That was Savage. Therefore, it is Savage.

Santino=Greatness 02-09-2009 09:10 PM

Lets be honest Macho might be a legend of wrestling, but Punk is a better overall wrestler. But Macho Man might be the 2nd best person on the mic EVVVVVVVVVVER, next to The Ultimate Warrior

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53hiH...eature=related

HeartBreakMan2k 02-09-2009 09:35 PM

I can't at all understand how Punk edged out Booker T, and I am COMPLETELY baffled as to how he's this close to the Macho King.

Juan 02-09-2009 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartBreakMan2k (Post 2430250)
I can't at all understand how Punk edged out Booker T, and I am COMPLETELY baffled as to how he's this close to the Macho King.

I think it's indicative to how old most posters in here are.

McLegend 02-09-2009 10:25 PM

Punk is gonna win this.

Innovator 02-09-2009 10:26 PM

One guy pulled a blank on his memory and carried a Samoan for 60 minutes with a bad back.

One guy called Steamboat to his house and rehearsed a Mania match MOVE FOR MOVE.

CM Punk.

Juan 02-09-2009 10:40 PM

I love Punk, but I will lose all faith in humanity if he beats Randy Savage.

McLegend 02-09-2009 10:43 PM

Macho Man is arguably the best wrestler from the 80's, and the 80's probably produced the best wrestlers.

KYR 02-09-2009 11:13 PM

This is probably my only criticism about the structure of BW HoF.

It is always going to be difficult to get a deserving/true legend into the HoF if we e.g. put a Macho Man, Harley Race, Tully Blanchard, Ricky Steamboat etc up against a current wrestler, who's not even at the peak of his career, but happens to be "over" at the moment and "known" by the relatively young voters here.

I'm not saying Punk doesn't deserve to win this round, I just believe that it is just so much harder for a deserving wrestler to get into the HoF simply because a few people "have never seen him wrestle therefore I'll vote for the other guy".

Not a "Narc" rant...just an OBSERVATION.

Destor 02-09-2009 11:51 PM

It's not a wrestling HoF KYR, it's the BW HoF. Nothing more.

KYR 02-09-2009 11:57 PM

I know Des.

I just get a little down when I think that "potentially" someone really deserving is going to miss out.

I mean, when you think about it, you'd have to agree that a Ricky Steamboat or a Harley Race SHOULD be a lock for the HoF.

Destor 02-10-2009 12:01 AM

But not on TPWW, and this HoF reflects TPWW taste.

El Fangel 02-10-2009 12:14 AM

I was joking about negging people by the way :p

Seriously vote Macho Man people.

Verbose Minch 02-10-2009 12:50 AM

OH YEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

The Optimist 02-10-2009 12:55 AM

I love how Gene handled that crazy shit.

Someone convince me one way or the other. I love both these guys.

Juan 02-10-2009 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Optimist (Post 2430578)

Someone convince me one way or the other. I love both these guys.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkchop (Post 2430040)
Wrestlemania 3.


Nark Order 02-10-2009 01:03 AM

Savage by far. The definition of a perfectionist in his day.

Good Ol JG 02-10-2009 02:59 AM

Look I'm totally cool with Punk as a wrestler, but whoever said that he was a better overall performer than Savage must be crazy. How many classic matches could Punk pull out of the Ultimate Warrior? Could Punk have worked with 4 very different guys on the same night and have good matches with all of them, despite the difference in styles? And, since this is an overall vote, is Punk anywhere near the mic worker or showman that Savage was? Last, but not least, could Punk have cut one of the best rap albums of our gen...ok, that one's a stretch. But seriously, Savage was incredible and way underrated. Punk is very good, but he's got a long way to go to ever touch Randy Savage as a wrestler.

Xerzes 02-10-2009 03:20 AM

Be a man!

Ruien 02-10-2009 04:54 AM

Ehhh, I wanted to vote for Randy but something made me click CM Punk's name.


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