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Better Wrestler #63

The Macho King has been dethroned, but without putting up one hell of a struggle. Can Mr. Perfect acheive Perfection? this is his second time running as the reining champion, lets see if he has what it takes to make it threw this gauntlet...

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<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler History<OPTION>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</OPTION><OPTION>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</OPTION><OPTION>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</OPTION><OPTION>#10.Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</OPTION><OPTION>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</OPTION><OPTION>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</OPTION><OPTION>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)<OPTION>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)<OPTION>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</OPTION><OPTION>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</OPTION><OPTION>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</OPTION><OPTION>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</OPTION><OPTION>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</OPTION><OPTION>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</OPTION><OPTION>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</OPTION><OPTION>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</OPTION>><OPTION>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)<OPTION>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</OPTION><OPTION>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</OPTION><OPTION>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</OPTION><OPTION>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</OPTION><OPTION>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</OPTION><OPTION>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</OPTION><OPTION>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)<OPTION>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</OPTION><OPTION>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</OPTION><OPTION>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</OPTION><OPTION>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</OPTION><OPTION>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</OPTION><OPTION>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</OPTION><OPTION>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</OPTION><OPTION>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</OPTION><OPTION>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</OPTION><OPTION>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</OPTION><OPTION>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</OPTION><OPTION>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</OPTION><OPTION>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</OPTION><OPTION>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</OPTION><OPTION>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</OPTION><OPTION>#60. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</OPTION><OPTION>#61. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</OPTION><OPTION>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</OPTION></SELECT>

<SELECT><OPTION selected>Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</OPTION><OPTION>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</OPTION><OPTION>Taz</OPTION><OPTION>Kurt Angle</OPTION></SELECT>

Ugh. Still can't believe he beat Randy Savage but I'll get over it.

Perfect wins out Page.

I would like to say DDP is massivley underrated on these boards, but Perfect in my mind is supirior. Perfect's technical prowless was amazing. His highspots were amazing. His psycology was amazing. DDP while solid in most of the departments (save technique) is out shinned by Perfect. The only department DDP excels beyond Prefect in is his Mic work.

With said Curt Hennig wins out for me.

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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2459968)

Ugh. Still can't believe he beat Randy Savage but I'll get over it.

Perfect wins out Page.

My favorite wrestler lost too. :(

Rember folks, free rep for those who voice their opinions as the WHY they voted the way they did. The reasons are what kepp me interested in these thread.s Hearing people opinions on what make one guy good/better is extreamly intreging to me. So please, speak up and get some green dotz.

Hmmm... this is a really good match and I really like both of these guys.

I'm going to go ahead and give my vote to DDP, because Mr. Perfect never teamed up with Karl Malone AND Jay Leno. My reason is soundproof.

Mr. Perfect. Even as a WWF mark during the 90's, I can't say I was never entertained by DDP though.

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 2459976)

I think that should be a reason to vote against DDP.

Def Curt, there are two maybe three guys I would vote over him and one is already in the HOF (Angle). He was incredible at everything he did and he made everyone he faced look golden.

I can't see Page beating Hennig. I'm going to vote Page though because he seemed to be the coolest guy on the planet and was horribly used in the WWE.

I'm going to have to go Perfect. DDP was entertaining during his run in WCW, but Perfect was hands down the better wrestler.

Wow, for a guy who 'never held the strap' Henning was a great in my mind. I loved watching him go.

DDP was fun and he was hot for a while, but Perfect sustained. Technically, there were very few better.

Like last time, this is the case of one wrestler being great, but Hennig being even greater. The guy was just so smooth in the ring and made everything look phenomenal.

I mean the guy's finisher was a suplex and he made it look like a legitimate finisher.

I'm taking DDP, because him and Nash (and Hall when he was on) were the only guys I would watch WCW for. I didn't mind watching Helms and some other guys, but DDP and Nash were the guys I watched for.

*gives everyone a diamond cutter*

Also, you could have just posted this picture instead of 2:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Sc00b1d019.jpg

Also it should be noted that Hennig grew up wrestling, DDP didn't start till he was 35 and many times was carrying the WCW mainevents.

Interesting first round.

Gotta go with Hennig. DDP was really good and has one of the best finishers of all time, but Hennig was an absolute master inside the ring. I'm pretty sure Perfect could have pulled a 5 star match out of a 10 pound sack of potatoes.

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Originally Posted by Good Ol JG (Post 2460167)

DDP pulled out watchable matches with 3 200 pound sacks of shit. Or atleast of out Carl Malone, Hogan, and Dennis Rodman.

DDP was a workhorse of the WCW main event...cause everyone sucked. Looking back at it thanks to WWE 24/7...he's ok

But Perfect is Perfect. This is no contest.

Also, I'm going against Hennig because he beat Macho Man and that pisses me off.

I loved watching Page and would vote for him over 95% of everyone else, but this is Mr. Perfect. His matches with Bret for the IC/KOTR title are some of my favorite of all time. Page was awesome and all and the Diamond Cutter could make you come out of the chair when he pulled it out of nowhere, but some of Henning's matches did that from the beginning.

DDP had a hot wife and was better on the mic. But anybody could have been inserted into his main event status and gotten the reception he did. Mr. Perfect created his own legacy (Legacy). Gotta go with Henning, but barely.

I'm going to have to go with Perfect with this one. While Page entertained me a little, I was captivated by Hennigs charisma, be it as a colour commentator, a mouthpiece or in one of his own promos.

Where he came into his own though, was in the ring. Man, he could go. I started watching wrestling late '92, and my overriding memory was his King of the Ring match with Bret Hart, which was amazing. They told a proper story together.

I'm just proud to be able to say that I got to see him perform in person.

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Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 2460187)

Not true about inserted into the mainevent. Billy Gunn was inserted into the main event against Rock and fizzled. DDP held his own.

I meant DDP's role, not just any main eventer. Turning on nWo can put anyone over.

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Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 2460249)

I meant DDP's role, not just any main eventer. Turning on nWo can put anyone over.

I dunno about that. It wasn't just turning on Hall and Nash. It was the suddeness of the Diamond Cutter and the dash into the crowd where he appeared to naturally blend in with the fans. That's what got him over and made him the People's Champ. Another wrestler could have made it work, but not nearly as well.

I'm not bashing DDP. I loved him. But I just think his spot made him a better wrestler.

I know that Mr Perfect is the better wrestler, but since DDP is such a close second, I gave him the vote to make it seem like less of a white wash.

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Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 2460252)

I'm not bashing DDP. I loved him. But I just think his spot made him a better wrestler.

I disagree. You need a certain level of charisma, I think that is could have worked with a few guys, but not anyone.

Mr. Perfect. I like/respect DDP but Hennig wins every category

I think some of you are underestimating Curt's mic work. He also had one of the best themes of all time. Curt was also around a lot longer than DDP. Curt took Bobby Duncam Jr. and the continually repackaged asspirate Vincent, and forming a cowboy wrestling group. Big props on that one. I will always remember rap is crap. Maybe in the ring DDP could make someone look good. Outside the ring people were elevated just for being associated with Curt Hennig.

Was always a massive DDP fan. Loved his ring work and mic work. Love the diamond cutter. Shame he wasn't used a lot better in WWE. My vote goes to him.

Mr. Perfect is by far one of greatest to ever live, and its a shame I haven't seen more of his work, but from what I saw he really was a special and gifted performer.

But for me DDP was the goods for a long time. I was really into the character, appreciated his in ring work, and thought it was an absolute crime how he was handled in the E.

Since I can tell already this is probably a route, I am going to go with the heart instead of the brian on this one. DDP gets the vote.

landslide.... with all due respect to DDP..... he is going to feel the perfect BANG!

DDP was the peoples champ. The pop he got when he reversed the jackhammer into a diamond cutter, they do not exist anymore. Figuring this was the first round, I almost auto voted for Mr. Perfect. But when DDP was the other choice, it was a quick and easy choice for myself. He made me watch WCW, no one else. After his segment/match was over, the channel would be turned.

That is what I was talking about. Great moment.