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Anybody Thrilla 03-27-2009 12:49 PM

Has anybody ever given a fuck about Jeff Jarrett?
 
Back in the Double J days, he was a pretty good heel, and he was involved in some pretty good matches, but that's about it. In WCW, I never bought him as a legit threat and he bored the shit out of me. In TNA, I only buy him as a legit threat because of his position in the company, and still, he bores the shit out of me. Honestly, I think that Jarrett's position in the company alone almost makes TNA hard to watch, considering what an assclown he is.

Does anybody love Jarrett here?

StingerSplash4Lyf 03-27-2009 12:52 PM

when he was in the nwo2000 i liked him. same with bret

Xero 03-27-2009 12:54 PM

No.

Exyle 03-27-2009 01:07 PM

I liked J-E-Double F J-A-Double R-E-Double T. With Tennessee Lee, light up hat and jacket, and the twangy entrance theme. Silly, but it was fun.

His feud with Razor was pretty good at that time. Other than that, I could take or leave Jarrett.

Xero 03-27-2009 01:08 PM

I seriously can't understand how he got pushed to the main event in WCW.

Or is he tight with Russo?

Impeccable 03-27-2009 01:12 PM

He was a decent heel, and I did enjoy his tag run with owen and then his final singles push with the IC title before jumping ship.

And for TNA, he was probably the right person to lead the company at the beginning...it pretty much set everyone's expectation level and what should be their company motto..."We can't compete"

Dorkchop 03-27-2009 01:22 PM

He wasn't too bad in the IC division, but I never really liked him.

Juan 03-27-2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2478798)
Back in the Double J days, he was a pretty good heel, and he was involved in some pretty good matches, but that's about it. In WCW, I never bought him as a legit threat and he bored the shit out of me. In TNA, I only buy him as a legit threat because of his position in the company, and still, he bores the shit out of me. Honestly, I think that Jarrett's position in the company alone almost makes TNA hard to watch, considering what an assclown he is.

Pretty much the same for me.

Innovator 03-27-2009 02:16 PM

He only got reactions in WWE cause he was with Debra, no one cared about Jarrett

screech 03-27-2009 02:51 PM

I've always been a fan of him. Not really sure why, I've just always liked him.

Mooияakeя™ 03-27-2009 03:07 PM

The guitar got more reaction, the guitar left more of a mark, the guitar was more feared...

Pretty much says it all.

Vastardikai 03-27-2009 03:11 PM

He was as over as he got in WWF(which wasn't that much) due to the El Kabong and the Cougar in his corner. The only other time he was over was when he was in Tennessee, in a promotion owned by his dad.

Then Vince Russo decided to make him the centerpiece of WCW.

I'll repeat it until the end of time. Any promotion built around Jeff Jarrett DESERVES to fail.

Loose Cannon 03-27-2009 04:11 PM

I have always like Jarrett. He was a great midcard guy to have around. I only didn't like his never ending heel run in TNA.

Funky Fly 03-27-2009 06:07 PM

Slapnuts and the guitar. All he's ever been good for.

Nicky Fives 03-27-2009 06:30 PM

Yes.... his matches with Razor back in the WWF days were classic..... him & Roadie were excellent together and he had super chemistry with Hall

Nicky Fives 03-27-2009 06:30 PM

and the saying "slapnuts" will forever be burned into my mind....

Bad Company 03-27-2009 07:03 PM

I am a huge JJ Mark, but he certainly shouldn't be the centrepiece of the main event, though I think he did pretty well with that in WCW. He's an excellent upper-mid carder. And him tagging with Owen was dynamite, probabably one of my favourite teams ever.

BobBitchen 03-27-2009 07:52 PM

I liked him in the WWF. I watched him at his last PPV(Which I did not know was his last with WWF) and was surprised as hell when he came out the next night on Nitro. That was when he dropped the IC title to Chyna.

Theo Dious 03-27-2009 09:09 PM

He never should have been anything bigger than a solid midcarder. In any main event scene he looks like some kind of punkass who doesn't belong there.

Theo Dious 03-27-2009 09:10 PM

And how could a guy who got his hair cut by X PAC ever be taken seriously?!

The Gold Standard 03-27-2009 10:20 PM

I have never liked him and I don't think it is fair to compare him to the greats in wrestling such as Angle, Foley, Sting, etc. like TNA does. I know it is his company, but everyone should realize he is not on their level.

The Optimist 03-28-2009 03:09 AM

I never liked him. And he's always been a heel, so at least he's effective in that way. I honestly did sort of like the way he was pushed in WCW in the end. When he paraded around telling everyone that corporate had already told him he'd win the belt soon, so no one fucking mattered but him. And that started in the World Title tournament that he lost and ended up with Bret Hart and Benoit if I'm correct. He won a few months later I think, but it was sort of cool to see how much of a cowardly shit he was, then get his comeupence, only to actually be victorious in some way.

And I'm only now realizing that WCW would have been fine and dandy if it was cleaned up a bit.

Oh, and let me be clear. Everything he's ever done in TNA sucks. And that he sucks at wrestling.

Xerzes 03-28-2009 03:30 AM

Entirely adequate mid-carder. Beyond that and he is drastically outclassed.

abec 03-28-2009 05:13 AM

LETS MAKE A MIDCARD HEEL SHOW AND SEE WHAT WE GET IN RATINGS!!!

Fabien Barthez 03-28-2009 07:28 AM

I have always liked Jarrett in the ring and any gimmicks he has had. He knows how to get his character over and always has. Can't say the same for the people he has booked...

He makes people look good. He always has. I think Jarrett was a more valid World Champ in WCW than Punk or Mysterio ever were in WWE. His weird cahoots with Russo isn't one of his better qualities. Or his role on TNA.

Theo Dious 03-28-2009 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abec (Post 2479321)
LETS MAKE A MIDCARD HEEL SHOW AND SEE WHAT WE GET IN RATINGS!!!

What the fuck are you talking about, and why the fuck are you breathing my air.

Theo Dious 03-28-2009 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien Barthez (Post 2479363)
I think Jarrett was a more valid World Champ in WCW than Punk or Mysterio ever were in WWE.

I will agree here, but only because of the crop of talent he was being measured against. Jarrett's biggest opponents then were, if memory serves, DDP, Booker, Steiner, and a broken down Hogan. In that crowd, Jarrett is a decent champion, but if you're fronting that crowd in your company, you have bigger problems to deal with.

Triple Naitch 03-28-2009 10:00 AM

I could care less about him. It seems like he just took little bits of his favorite wrestlers and combined them into his own persona.

Mr. JL 03-28-2009 10:59 AM

No.

RatedGSuperstar 03-28-2009 11:33 AM

Pretty much echoing everyone here. Didn't mind him as a midcarder in the WWF, but it's kind of sad that towards the end he had to get over by playing the sexist abusive role against Debra and Chyna.

The ongoing Angle/Jarrett thing in TNA is getting ridiculously boring, though. Seems like that shit's lasted most of Angle's TNA run.

LuigiD 03-28-2009 11:48 AM

I didn't really like him when he was in WWF. I liked him a little more when he entered WCW though. I liked his short stay with that company. After that, stopped caring.

Fox 03-28-2009 11:51 AM

Vince McMahon never gave JJ that big main event push because he didn't see him as "that guy" for his company. Vince McMahon was right.

Unfortunately, Vince Russo and Jeff were buddies, so when Russo showed up in WCW, it wasn't long before Jarrett was one of the main event players.

I agree with pretty much all that has been said here. He's not a bad wrestler at all; he's very solid in the ring. But there's nothing significant enough about his style or his entertainment value that makes him a main eventer. He's bland as all hell in the ring, even down to his lame ass finisher. And now, with his own company and Russo once again behind the pen, Jarrett can still make sure he's portrayed as a world championship athlete, when simply put, he's not at all.

The only time I liked Jarrett was for the period from Mayhem 2000 to Starrcade 2000, up to and including his awesome US Title Ladder Match against Benoit. I liked the matches he had with DDP over the World Title in 2000, but I mostly attribute the quality of those matches to Page more than Jarrett. He made a good block in the building of the new nWo, but when it died and he became the "leader," I knew it wasn't going to work.

So that's about it with Jarrett. hopefully he will retire some day soon so that TNA can maybe continue to grow.

Rammsteinmad 03-28-2009 12:01 PM

I liked him in WWF and in WCW around '99 and 2000. To be honest since then I haven't seen much of him.

Stickman 03-28-2009 12:42 PM

Pretty much all my feelings in here. Decent mid card, didn't mind the IC belt, crap in WCW.

And I hate the guitar. Has he ever held it like a guitar?

Anybody Thrilla 03-28-2009 01:31 PM

I like the guitar only because it seems like a nod to his original mainstream roots as Double J, and that was the only time I kinda liked him. Hated him as a kid, but that was the goal.

thedamndest 03-28-2009 01:44 PM

The entire premise of Jarrett's first heel run in the WWF was pretty preposterous.

"Double J, Jeff Jarrett wants to use the WWF as a stepping stone to launch his country music career!" -Vince McMahon

Somebody gave this man bad advice. Unlike previous "career" gimmicks (Duke "The Dumpster Droese, The Goon, Dean Douglas), this guy wasn't a former anything. He wanted to better himself by way of professional wrestling. What?

Jeritron 03-28-2009 01:48 PM

Sounds like a shoot

thedamndest 03-28-2009 02:06 PM

"Stephen Hawking, is going to use the World Wrestling Federation to discover if light can really escape from black holes! And he delivers a head butt to Razor Ramon!"

Jeritron 03-28-2009 02:13 PM

I think Jeff Hardy winning the title is tangible evidence that light can escape from black holes. The light being his push.

thedamndest 03-28-2009 02:19 PM

Only because he disguised himself like a lemur.


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