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Xero 04-11-2009 12:06 PM

Did WWE try to capture lightning in a bottle again with Black Lesnar?
 
Do you believe that WWE tried to recreate Brock Lesnar in Bobby Lashley?

Let's look at the facts:

Similar, mismatched voices.
Similar body type.
Similar music.
Similar entrance (even using the same pyro for a bit if I recall correctly).
Similar in-ring style.
Both even went onto MMA.

So, with these points in mind, do you think WWE was going for Brock Lesnar II with Lashley?

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 04-11-2009 12:37 PM

Just a shame that Lashley had 1/10th the talent of Lesnar.

GD 04-11-2009 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoJabbaNoBogRoll (Post 2496591)
Just a shame that Lashley had 1/10th the talent of Lesnar.

I always believed they were trying to re create Brock with Lashley. I am not taking away anything from Franky (no doubt he was good) but he was not as consistent as Brock.

Brock always made it look like he was beating his opponent very badly. He always looked like a convincing main event player and seemed to fit into the Smackdown roster as their Heavyweight Champion.

Lesnar truly defined the concept of the STRENGTH game which is being loosely thrown here and there by guys like Jim Ross.

The Gold Standard 04-11-2009 03:21 PM

They did try to recreate him, he had ability, but he was no Brock. What made Brock so much better was Heyman. I think if Brock came in w/o Heyman he would not be as popular as he was.

Jeritron 04-11-2009 03:23 PM

Heyman was only one of dozens of things that made Brock better.

Xero 04-11-2009 03:27 PM

What <s>Sti</s>Jeritron said.

Heyman helped Lesnar but wasn't 100% needed. Lesnar could never have talked and just beaten the shit out of everyone and would have been over.

Xero 04-11-2009 03:28 PM

Like Rover.

Theo Dious 04-11-2009 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2496685)
Heyman was only one of dozens of things that made Brock better.

Lesnar has natural ability dripping out of every pore; Lashley had potential to be great that he never quite met.
Lesnar has an ability to look like a menacing beast; Lashley looks like a constipated Cabbage Patch Kid.
Lesnar came in at a time when WWE was looking to develop a new identity, Lashley came in at a time when the roster was pretty oversaturated.

Now that's not 100% either of their doings, but Brock had a lot more going for him.

FourFifty 04-11-2009 06:08 PM


Jeritron 04-11-2009 06:18 PM

How many threads will 450 post this in by the end of the day? Tune in to find out.

The Optimist 04-11-2009 06:33 PM

More like trying to force lightning through a needle's head. Even more difficult, even less of a chance, even worse failure.

Lock Jaw 04-11-2009 06:34 PM

Brock also had people around who were capable of elevating a new star. His dominating wins over The Rock and Hulk Hogan were probably what put him over the top. Lesnar wiping Hogan's blood on himself is one of the most badass moments ever.

IC Champion 04-11-2009 06:35 PM

They both sucked, but thats about it.

abec 04-11-2009 07:40 PM

Lesnar belly to belly suplexing big show pretty much gained him super star status in my book, especially considering it was fat ass big slow.

Savio 04-11-2009 07:53 PM

Black Lesnar

James Steele 04-11-2009 08:03 PM

It was so blatant, that it made me cringe when they finally had him do the exact same ring apron jump with the exact same pyro as Lesnar.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2009 10:06 PM

Eventually it turned into that, but Lashley did connect with the fans in his initial run on SmackDown!. They pushed that dude way too fast, though.

Lock Jaw 04-11-2009 10:52 PM

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q...10ee6cc26c.png

Xero 04-11-2009 10:53 PM

That is one of the rare photos in which I seriously cannot tell if it's Photoshopped or not.

Lock Jaw 04-11-2009 10:55 PM

Not shopped. It's from a Lashley vs. Simon Dean match where the loser had to eat a plate of cheeseburgers.

Xero 04-11-2009 10:55 PM

:rofl:

IC Champion 04-11-2009 10:56 PM

LOL

Theo Dious 04-11-2009 11:03 PM

He looks WAY too excited about those burgers...

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2009 11:15 PM

I think the WWE made a mistake by not turning Bobby Lashley heel in the Extreme Elimination Chamber at December to Dismember.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2009 11:15 PM

Paul Heyman could have paid him off with cheeseburgers.

Xero 04-11-2009 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2496934)
I think the WWE made a mistake by <s>not turning Bobby Lashley heel in the Extreme Elimination Chamber at</s> having December to Dismember.


Theo Dious 04-11-2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2496935)
Paul Heyman could have paid him off with cheeseburgers.

It would have been a historical moment. I don't think a cheeseburger has ever bounced before.

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2009 11:24 PM

Touche, to both Xero and Tedious.

Savio 04-11-2009 11:26 PM

December to dismember could have been good if they had actual story lines going into it


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