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BigDaddyCool 04-14-2009 02:21 PM

Wow, Smackdown really got screwed
 
I mean look at their main event: Undertaker, Edge, and i guess Jeff and Jericho, then just a bunch of perennial midcarders. I guess Rey is kind of a maineventer, and CM Punk works in a pinch, but no one else on the entire roster is really worth a damn for mainevent purposes...

Discuss.

Jeritron 04-14-2009 02:27 PM

No, I will not discuss.

erickman 04-14-2009 02:31 PM

thats what hapens when you are on my network tv. raw is the a show, the suprise was ecw did not get an ageing wrestler like will reagle

The Fonz 04-14-2009 02:37 PM

Edge, Punk, Jericho, Jeff, Taker (sort of), and Rey when they feel like it is SD's main event. Just because everyone doesn't haven a giant ego like Raw's main event doesn't mean they got screwed royally.

Smackdown's never been about the "steak" anyway.

Scott Delaney 04-14-2009 02:42 PM

Cena verses Matt Hardy will only happy in a fucken video game, lol. Cena is too good for Hardy and will probebly feud with other main eventers like Triple H, Orten, Batista, and Big Show.

Funky Fly 04-14-2009 02:49 PM

Don't they usually have a supplemental draft during the week? It'll probably even out a bit more.

Lock Jaw 04-14-2009 02:49 PM

Smackdown always has its rising and popular stars moved to Raw. Pissed that Jericho is on Smackdown now, though.

Rammsteinmad 04-14-2009 02:54 PM

Are you guys kidding me?!?!?! Smackdown actually has a pretty exciting main event scene going for it right now.

Okay, we have Undertaker, Edge, Jeff Hardy and Chris Jericho. Potential main eventers for the rest of the year we have CM Punk, Rey Mysterio, Umaga and Kane.

Right now I'm looking forward to the possibilties of any rivalry between Edge, Hardy, Jericho, Punk, Mysterio and Shelton Benjamin over the next year.

:D

Rammsteinmad 04-14-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 2501280)
Smackdown always has its rising and popular stars moved to Raw. Pissed that Jericho is on Smackdown now, though.

Why? Without Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Batista and Orton, Jericho might get a decent main event run again.

thedamndest 04-14-2009 03:05 PM

Cena, Batista, Orton, HHH, HBK, on one show, are you kidding me? SOMETHING's gotta give!

Jeritron 04-14-2009 03:05 PM

On paper, I prefer this.

Jericho will be a much larger fish in a slightly smaller pond. He'll get more of a push, and a higher rank on the card. Same with Punk.
They're also going to be on a show with Edge.
This means Edge and Jericho working together at some point. That is immense.
It also means Punk will have more of a chance. Maybe he can actually cut some promos, and get out of the midcard in a smaller title scene.

It's obvious that they want to push Punk, but he has a hard time breaking out of the midcard on a show with Batista, Cena, Orton and now HHH.
On Smackdown, he is currently the second most over face. There'll be far more oppurtunities for him to get an actual push towards the title, which will actually main event shows, rather than a transitional run.

Also, the IC title has much more potential on Smackdown, where it can be made to matter. There's a bigger division, and main eventers like Hardy and Jericho won't be above working with it.
The midcard on Smackdown is strong. Guys like Shelton and R-Truth will have strong matches with Rey, and the main eventers even.
It will be a much more cohesive roster that isn't so obviously ranked.

I'm more than okay with Edge, Jericho, Undertaker, Jeff Hardy, and CM Punk working together.

I also expect Morrison to be there soon.

I really couldn't be more happy with the Smackdown roster. The only thing that really could have made it more exciting was Christian getting drafted to it as well.

thedamndest 04-14-2009 03:06 PM

I think R-Truth is going to ECW.

Jeritron 04-14-2009 03:09 PM

I forgot about Kane too. Not too high on Kane anymore, but it could be good for him.

I'd like to see an actual re-teaming of Taker and Kane as a tag team for a while, rather than one-off tagging every few weeks for a TV main event.

I think an Edge/Jericho vs Taker/Kane main event tag team fued could be great.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-14-2009 03:12 PM

I like Smackdown's roster. Raw's got the names, Smackdown's got the excitement. Really, aside from Matt Hardy and MVP leaving, Smackdown didn't suffer at all.

Rammsteinmad 04-14-2009 03:13 PM

Nah nah, Edge and Christian VS Undertaker and Kane.

Last time we saw that E&C were still newbies who were sqaushed quite quickly, now it's be a more even match.

Jeritron 04-14-2009 03:14 PM

Yea, it's obvious that Raws got the front loaded star power. I don't know how it will affect ratings or viewership or what now, but I don't care.
Smackdown's got the quality IMO, and is far less crowded.

Another thing, Rey will have much more believable compettition. I'd much rather see him fueding with average sized midcarders rather than Knox.

DAMN iNATOR 04-14-2009 03:16 PM

Also, I hope the supplemental draft includes a couple of the guys on commentary switching it up. Have Striker -> SD! and Grish to ECW.

thedamndest 04-14-2009 03:17 PM

A Hardy leaving was a move that almost had to be done to prevent perpetual feuding, and since they needed Jeff to stay and remain as a top face, Matt is the better choice. It's more of a shake up too since he hasn't been to Raw since like 2005 and it should give him some top guys to feud with.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-14-2009 03:19 PM

Rey should be much more entertaining without Michael Cole calling his matches.

Jeritron 04-14-2009 03:20 PM

I suspect Jeff and Edge will fued after the Cena/Edge thing blows over at Backlash. Prob due to Big Show's involvement. Then he and Cena will fued over on Raw.

I guess Jeff/Edge will go at it for the world title, while Jericho starts up a fued with either Punk or Taker.

I'd like to see Morrison debut and fued with Rey for the IC title, and after trading some victories go over.

thedamndest 04-14-2009 03:21 PM

I would like to see Rey become a dick and make a move on one (both) of the Bellas.

Jeritron 04-14-2009 03:22 PM

Will the Colons be primarily on Smackdown, or Raw? I'm not sure how this whole unified tag titles thing works now. I guess it makes them split-brand.

thedamndest 04-14-2009 03:23 PM

Rey v. Colon v. Colon in a three way dance would be good. I don't know that they're planning on adding more teams, and this would still keep the Colons relevant.

DAMN iNATOR 04-14-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2501341)
Rey should be much more entertaining without Michael Cole calling his matches.


Yeah. It's a shame my idea will probably not come to fruition with a Striker/Ross commentary team on SD! because J.R.'s got the fire and passion and all the "dirt" on everybody, and I just think if Striker got the chance, his biting wit and snarky comebacks would be great IF they played off what J.R. was saying properly...probably hilarious most times. But I guess we just have to put up with Todd "the White Jonathan Coachman" Grisham and Ross for now on SD!:-\

Supreme Olajuwon 04-14-2009 03:24 PM

I hope Kofi moves to Smackdown in the supplemental draft. He's going to be completely buried on Raw.

Jeritron 04-14-2009 03:26 PM

Somebody needs to be in the midcard for MVP

thedamndest 04-14-2009 03:28 PM

You have the Miz now.

Jeritron 04-14-2009 03:31 PM

I dunno, I'd rather keep Kofi put. Raw does need a midcard, no matter how many main eventers they have.
Smackdown has a few now, with the draft, plus those that already were there. Shelton, and hopefully Morrison.

Also, he has primarily worked with Rey and Punk, and that was getting a bit stale. They're both on Smackdown now, so I suspect that would be more of the same.

I think on Raw he could actually increase rank as resident midcarder/US champion

Gertner 04-14-2009 03:31 PM

Raw's got about 4 guys who can main event. HHH, Orton, HBK Cena and Batista. You can't really see anybody else on their roster as "main event", plus every feud between them has been done.

Smackdown has Edge, Jeff Hardy, Jericho, Kane, Taker, C M Punk, Rey Mysterio and Umaga.

There's at least some potential variety there, plus first time feuds..

thedamndest 04-14-2009 03:33 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if they move Evan Bourne to Raw actually. I don't see ECW champion written all over him, but they do seem to be pretty high on him. High enough to be the new Rey on Monday nights.

Johnny Vegas 04-14-2009 03:47 PM

Tweener/Face Edge v. Heel CM Punk (with enough mic/promo time) or Heel CM Punk teaming with Jericho (i heard Punk likes to use a "im better than you because i don't do_____ or something like that). Both would be awesome as a small faction/tag team. Also, they need a heel CM Punk to fued with a face John Morrison or HBK. I have got to see either a Morrison/HBK match or a heel CM Punk/HBK match before i die.

Krimzon7 04-14-2009 03:50 PM

SmackDown looks like a better show than Raw at the moment. I hope that Through some devine act, MVP can avoid the kennedy curse. Maybe he will become the workhorse US Champ and defend every week with 15 minute matches...

BigDaddyCool 04-14-2009 04:13 PM

BTW, I didn't forget Kane.

Krimzon7 04-14-2009 04:26 PM

But the WWE has...

Nark Order 04-14-2009 04:28 PM

Kane needs to quit and live the rest of his life in a barn.

erickman 04-14-2009 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2501485)
Kane needs to quit and live the rest of his life in a barn.

he is the one wwe make movies with. his horror movie made more money then 12rounds or stone colds movie.

The Fonz 04-14-2009 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2501485)
Kane needs to quit and live the rest of his life in a barn.

http://www.best-horror-movies.com/im...rt-3-14181.jpg

D Mac 04-14-2009 05:07 PM

I believe it is professional wrestling who is still screwed, as I still am not interested.

Loose Cannon 04-14-2009 05:16 PM

gotta agree with you guys. while a bunch of us were watching live last night, the feeling really was "Smackdown got screwed over," but looking at everything, it will be a great show. Yes, Christian and Morrison need to get the hell over there.

Also
SPOILER: show
Taker/Jericho looks confirmed according to the news

Loose Cannon 04-14-2009 05:17 PM

they need to move the show to Thursday though because I just can't watch wrestling on Friday Nights. I'm never able to :(


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