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Supreme Olajuwon 04-17-2009 04:24 PM

Guys who made shitty gimmicks good
 
One of the characteristics of the wrestling world that you'll find anywhere you go is the ability to come up with some of the stupidest fucking characters you could possibly imagine, and then wrestlers are supposed to make these characters look good. More often than not, these shitty gimmicks fail. And it's nothing against those wrestlers, because even guys with an enormous amount of charisma and talent like Kevin Nash can falter with a shitty gimmick.

But every so often, a wrestler gets a shitty gimmick, runs with it, and makes that character work. For whatever reason, something clicks and the fans buy into it. So let's take time to remember the people who were able to make that happen.

I was thinking about doing a write up for each one but I'm too lazy now so I'll just list them. Maybe I'll come back and do a write up later.

Goldust
Doink the Clown
Screamin Norman Smiley (and the Wiggle)
Disco Inferno
Ricky the Dragon Steamboat (stereotype gimmicks have always been prevalent and even good wrestlers like Tito Santana can't make them work, but Ricky made it work so well that we don't even think about it as a gimmick anymore)

BigDaddyCool 04-17-2009 04:26 PM

Booker T has made a ton of shit gimmicks work.

DAMN iNATOR 04-17-2009 04:27 PM

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Dave Youell 04-17-2009 04:28 PM

Boogen

Honestly

Who would of thought that would last longer than a month?

Droford 04-17-2009 04:30 PM

Santino Marella, especially with his Santina crap

Lock Jaw 04-17-2009 04:36 PM

[Insert obligatory Sid joke]

That said, Simon Dean was great. I remember how he used to come out and insult the fatties in the audience and then tell the cameras to put a fat guy up on the tron, and one time he made this one dude cry and look so ashamed of himself. I bet he went home and ate himself to death.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-17-2009 04:36 PM

Also Kai En Tai.

Dorkchop 04-17-2009 04:36 PM

Finlay. I'm pretty sure getting a midget who lives underneath the ring to do run ins wasn't intended to get him over.

Like BDC said, Booker T. The guy has been ghetto, a king, GI Bro, stupid, and is now... whatever the fuck he is. Mention the ones I forget right now.

DAMN iNATOR 04-17-2009 04:43 PM

I'm surprised...
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...that the Full-Blooded Italians lasted as long as they did as a team

and after the FBI...
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...can anyone tell me what's so intriguing about watching a stereotypical NYC italian guy who cross-dresses?
(P.S.--I actually just threw up a little when I saw in the tron up close that Vito looked like Steve Wilkos...)

thedamndest 04-17-2009 05:04 PM

Mankind would have been gone if he were anybody but Foley.

Boondock Saint 04-17-2009 05:19 PM

lol forgot about Vito wearing a dress

thedamndest 04-17-2009 05:33 PM

That will always be a shitty gimmick, if for no other reason than because of Michael Cole talking about how much of a man Vito was because they hung out at bars together.

Mooияakeя™ 04-17-2009 05:34 PM

Naked Mideon. He was shit anyway, so playing naked total shit must have come natural.

Sorry Noid, but this is my opinion as I know u toss off over Mideon pictures and the like.

parkmania 04-17-2009 05:49 PM

Val Venis. A porn star turned wrestler? That's a pretty shitty gimmick.

Matt Striker. A teacher turned wrestler? :shifty:

Mooияakeя™ 04-17-2009 05:54 PM

Ah Matt Striker. The Bryan Ferry of wrestling.


Rep for anyone if they can find a clip of Joey Styles introducing Striker as "The man who left teaching in disgrace" - I :heart: Joey Styles. It's a tough job, and unless it's a full episode is gonna be hard to find. But still. Love that.

Nicky Fives 04-17-2009 06:15 PM

Mark Callaway...... end of story

Xero 04-17-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick55555 (Post 2505949)
Mark Callaway...... end of story

Yeah, this is pretty much the ultimate answer. He's manage to stay paranormal for 80% of his career and make it work perfectly.

When it's all said and done, he's just a western undertaker who shoots lightning out of his hands.

erickman 04-17-2009 06:58 PM

big show from riding his dads coffen to a love with vicky they gave some crappy storys

Jeritron 04-17-2009 07:06 PM

Undertaker is by far the best example of this.

Chavo Classic 04-17-2009 07:06 PM

I immediately thought 'Goldust' with this one. John Cena had a ton of success with his white-boy-can-rap gimmick for a while when he burst onto the scene too.

Otherwise current characters and gimmicks are either too bland or excessively freaky-outy to really provide any other quality answers to this question.

DrA 04-17-2009 07:18 PM

Booker T and his being black gimmick.

Not Booked 04-17-2009 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2505758)
Mankind would have been gone if he were anybody but Foley.

Mankind the Mutilator :lol:

Afterlife 04-17-2009 07:43 PM

I hate it when people think gimmicks are good or bad.

Gertner 04-17-2009 07:44 PM

Billy and Chuck.

Xero 04-17-2009 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2506239)
I hate it when people think gimmicks are good or bad.


Yeah! Fuck them for having opinions!

The Fonz 04-17-2009 07:51 PM

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Xero 04-17-2009 07:52 PM

WHAT'S UP?

Gertner 04-17-2009 07:56 PM

Vader

It you really think about it. Vader is essentially Bastion Booger with a mask.

Xero 04-17-2009 08:00 PM

Vader was pushed as a disgusting pig?

I mean, if you want to lump all the fat people into one gelatinous blob, throw in Big Daddy V and Yokozuna.

Afterlife 04-17-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2506246)
Yeah! Fuck them for having opinions!

Not remotely the point, but thanks for playing.

Xero 04-17-2009 08:13 PM

Well, then pray tell. What is your point?

Juan 04-17-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 2506263)
Vader

It you really think about it. Vader is essentially Bastion Booger with a mask.

Are you kidding me with this??? Vader >>>>>>> Bastion Booger

Gertner 04-17-2009 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2506303)
Are you kidding me with this??? Vader >>>>>>> Bastion Booger

wrestling ability yes. Vader made his gimmick work, which if you look back at it was kinda ridiculous.

ClockShot 04-17-2009 08:36 PM

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The entrance music is in my top 5 all time.

Triple Naitch 04-17-2009 08:39 PM

The Blue Meanie. Who would have thought this guy would have lasted so long or got his own following?

Gertner 04-17-2009 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 2506346)
The Blue Meanie. Who would have thought this guy would have lasted so long or got his own following?

It was ECW. The Shockmaster would have friggen gotten over in ECW

Kane Knight 04-17-2009 09:39 PM

John Cena. Who would have thought a wigger Marine would be so successful?

Nark Order 04-17-2009 09:45 PM

Get out of here KK. Take your banning like a man!

Mooияakeя™ 04-17-2009 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 2506376)
KANE KNIGHTGATE


Team Sheep 04-17-2009 11:09 PM

LMFAO Vito in a dress, I used to love that shit :lol:

I really liked Kerwin White while it lasted. Yes it was very stupid for Chavo Guerrero but he played it well

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