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mike adamle 04-27-2009 09:08 PM

So after 5 years Randy Orton got his revenge.
 
So does that mean that at No Mercy 2007 when he took the WWE title away from him in a last man standing match it meant nothing to him?

Xero 04-27-2009 09:09 PM

This happened when? What's 2007? I can only remember 2009.

KaliKot 04-27-2009 09:13 PM

and Kane tagged with Matt on Smackdown last week. Isn't he supposed to hate his guts and stuff?

in the WWE, memory is a bitch

The Optimist 04-27-2009 09:22 PM

There is a difference between Kane tagging Matt in a match and Orton either forgetting, totally omitting, or disregarding the past in a important promo. Ultimately no one will give a damn, but it would have been smarter for him to say something like "Back in blah blah blah when I beat him it was for glory not revenge." or really anything.

Theo Dious 04-27-2009 10:01 PM

NM 2007 wasn't "Orton's revenge," primarily because he didn't even know going into the night that he would be facing HHH and HHH didn't even start off the night champion. Last night was Orton's revenge because Orton didn't only beat HHH, he orchestrated a months-long scheme that saw him beat down HHH's family, end a title reign that lasted longer than it takes to cook a ham, and presumably put HHH on the shelf. Far more satisfying than just escaping a night with a title that was presented to you in the first place.

Loose Cannon 04-27-2009 10:03 PM

sorry, don't recall that. I recall Orton kicking HHH's fucking head in though

Juan 04-27-2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2524316)
NM 2007 wasn't "Orton's revenge," primarily because he didn't even know going into the night that he would be facing HHH and HHH didn't even start off the night champion. Last night was Orton's revenge because Orton didn't only beat HHH, he orchestrated a months-long scheme that saw him beat down HHH's family, end a title reign that lasted longer than it takes to cook a ham, and presumably put HHH on the shelf. Far more satisfying than just escaping a night with a title that was presented to you in the first place.

This

The Optimist 04-27-2009 10:18 PM

Silly that he didn't take revenge when he could have easily. Even in the Age of Orton he didn't do shit.

mike adamle 04-27-2009 10:32 PM

So knocking your opponent out so that he can't get up and taking away his title isn't enough to be called revenge? and I remember him kicking HHH's head in too: WrestleMania 24.... that wasn't revenge?, just saying... 5 years....

Loose Cannon 04-27-2009 10:34 PM

no, sorry

IC Champion 04-27-2009 10:51 PM

What about when he and edge feuded with DX?

The Chris Rosa 04-27-2009 11:01 PM

Well last night was the first time Orton actually pinned HHH for the title. So, I'm pretty sure that counts for something.

Juan 04-27-2009 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 2524452)
So knocking your opponent out so that he can't get up and taking away his title isn't enough to be called revenge? and I remember him kicking HHH's head in too: WrestleMania 24.... that wasn't revenge?, just saying... 5 years....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2524316)
NM 2007 wasn't "Orton's revenge," primarily because he didn't even know going into the night that he would be facing HHH and HHH didn't even start off the night champion. Last night was Orton's revenge because Orton didn't only beat HHH, he orchestrated a months-long scheme that saw him beat down HHH's family, end a title reign that lasted longer than it takes to cook a ham, and presumably put HHH on the shelf. Far more satisfying than just escaping a night with a title that was presented to you in the first place.


Kane Knight 04-27-2009 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Optimist (Post 2524149)
There is a difference between Kane tagging Matt in a match and Orton either forgetting, totally omitting, or disregarding the past in a important promo. Ultimately no one will give a damn, but it would have been smarter for him to say something like "Back in blah blah blah when I beat him it was for glory not revenge." or really anything.

Yeah, this was more like Matt coming out and saying "Kane and I have been friends for the last seven years..."

But honestly, it really doesn't matter.

Chavo Classic 04-30-2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2524585)
But honestly, it really doesn't matter.

:y:

If we were going to raise an point about every inconsistency in WWE history, we'd have a bitch of a long thread

GD 04-30-2009 03:51 PM

Vintage WWE. Maybe the new writers took over the storyline with zero wrestling knowledge and maybe they did some rough research on the whole evolution thing and didn't take much pain to gp through the 2007 rivalry.

Mr. Nerfect 04-30-2009 04:45 PM

I don't think Orton is so much gloating about being WWE Champion over Triple H, but that he actually believes he has ridded the company of The Game. We all know Triple H is going to be back, of course, but this is the first time that Orton has stood tall as WWE Champion, while Triple H has been "out indefinitely," I believe.

Also, if Orton brought up the true details of their past, then people might actually remember how fucking stale the combination of the two feuding is.

Kane Knight 04-30-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 2527221)
Vintage WWE. Maybe the new writers took over the storyline with zero wrestling knowledge and maybe they did some rough research on the whole evolution thing and didn't take much pain to gp through the 2007 rivalry.

Or maybe nobody thought anyone would really give a shit.

Chavo Classic 04-30-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2527311)
Or maybe nobody thought anyone would really give a shit.

They obviously haven't heard of TPWW. Nor will they ever

Jeritron 04-30-2009 07:09 PM

the jitz is monitoring

Chavo Classic 04-30-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2527501)
the jitz is monitoring

Maybe if we insert a few words about a Muslim Bomb Plot Against American Diplomacy but otherwise, nah, no-one is watching us.

Kane Knight 04-30-2009 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chavo Classic (Post 2527479)
They obviously haven't heard of TPWW. Nor will they ever

Of course they know about TPWW...Thanks to Dave Youell. :shifty:


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