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thedamndest 05-21-2009 04:31 PM

Best/Worst Character: JURASSIC PARK
 
Looking to introduce a new semi-regular discussion series here in movies/tv in which I pick a movie and you name your favorite and least favorite character in that movie(s). Without further ado, I bring to you the pilot thread, Jurassic Park!

<img src="http://www.content-free.de/data/media/33/jurassic-park.jpg">

What do they got in there, King Kong?"

Jeritron 05-21-2009 04:39 PM

Best Character: Ian Malcolm

Worst Character: Probably Lex

Jeritron 05-21-2009 04:40 PM

Muldoon is up there. He's cooler than Malcolm, but what he has to say isn't as interesting. Plus Jeff Goldblum is just hilarious as his own novelty.

Other characters are great too. The movie is actually full of great characters. I even like Tim. Lex and her "hacker" gimmick bores me though

thedamndest 05-21-2009 04:42 PM

Best: Dr. Ian Malcom (runner-up Dennis Nedry and whatever Samuel L. Jackson's name is)

Worst: Robert Muldoon

Ian Malcom is the clear winner here for a number of reasons. Just about everything he says is hilarious. He doesn't try and be a hero. He's got a great wardrobe, and come on, he survives a T-Rex attack because he has the presence of mind to apply a makeshift tourniquet before passing out. Pretty badass. Nedry and Jackson are both hilarious as well, but I can hardly give them the "best charcter" title for hilarious lines alone.

As for Muldoon, he looks like he would be the kind of person you want to go hunt down some dinosaurs, but when it comes down to it, he's all talk and no game. He sits around telling people to hush up when the car is approaching the tyrannosaur paddock and then nothing happens. When he's hunting raptors (known pack hunters) he places his hat on a tree to distract one raptor, only to be attacked from the side by another raptor. Timmy and Lex fared better in the kitchen against the raptors. Has this man ever hunted before? It's too bad he sucked so bad because his action figure was pretty cool (though it looked nothing like him).

Fignuts 05-21-2009 04:45 PM

Best: Dennis Nedry? Wazzat his name? Newman played him. He was great. "DODSAN! DODSAN! WE'VE GOT DODSAN HERE! See, nobody cares."

Worst: Yeah, Lex.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 04:46 PM

No way is Muldoon worse than Lex

thedamndest 05-21-2009 04:46 PM

As a side note, Jurassic Park is the only Michael Crichton book that has been done well on the screen, and I would say is one of the few movies that is as good as if not better than the book (though the movie changes quite a bit).

Jeritron 05-21-2009 04:46 PM

I'd like to give a special achievement award to Dotsond

Jeritron 05-21-2009 04:48 PM

I loved Mr. Arnold (Sam Jackson's character)

I basically love everyone in that movie except Lex. Even Genaro, the bloodsucking attorney

thedamndest 05-21-2009 04:49 PM

I think Muldoon's great potential and then disappointment is what makes him the worst character. He doesn't even get a shot off. He just puts his hat on the tree log. He really ought to know there are more raptors lurking in the area.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 04:53 PM

Well he fucks up. That's for sure. Then again, isn't that what they all do? I think that's the underlying theme of the movie. It was an 'epic fail' before the term was coined. Every brash arrogant human being on the island was in some way getting their commupance.
The only one who didn't was Malcom, and he was the "I told you so" character.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 04:58 PM

What about B.D Wong and his "simply deny them that" character?

thedamndest 05-21-2009 05:00 PM

I think the 7 year-old in me is still disappointed I never saw a Muldoon firefight. I just checked and the Muldoon action figure comes with a giant bazooka...

Jeritron 05-21-2009 05:01 PM

The Muldoon action figure was indeed amazing. I think that's clouding my judgement

thedamndest 05-21-2009 05:03 PM

I don't see anything wrong with Wong. As a man of science, any theory is open to flaws. It's just such a shame that these flaws had to come at a time when the electric fences containing dinosaurs were simultaneously turned off, while some of the dinosaurs were in some kind of fertile period.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 05:04 PM

Have you seen the Nedry figure?

Yes of course you have. Check my sig...

Jeritron 05-21-2009 05:08 PM

The point is the JP figures were over-equipped. Just about everyone had weapons of mass destruction in backpack form.
When Dennis Nedry has a flamethrower, you know someone at Kenner has gone drunk with power.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 05:16 PM

Ian Malcolm was a man of academia. He was a man of intelligence, wit, and logic. Look at him now...

http://toyattack.com/jp2.jpg

He's running around with a gun bigger than he is, and a backpack full of chemical weaponary.

Look at the crew he's running with. Even the kid is hunting dinos.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 05:20 PM

Not to mention the dinos they come with. "Hey kids, have your heroes shoot baby herbavores with bazookas and cage them IF they live"

Requiem 05-21-2009 05:21 PM

I had #4. It came with a big t-rex that had a spot on its side that came out and showed its rib cage, as if a chunk had been blown out of it.

thedamndest 05-21-2009 05:22 PM

Ellie gave Malcolm the tranq gun so she wouldn't have to keep feeding him morphine. Jurassic Park had a shortage of hypodermic needles but an abundance of over-sized backpack mounted tranq guns, so that's why he has that.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 05:24 PM

http://www.figurerealm.com/Galleries.php?SID=124&SSID=3

Remember those guys?

To compliment the Evil Raiders, there were the Dino Trackers too. They were made up bad guys and heroes respectively. Apparently the film characters didn't offer enough possibilities for living room warfare.
I can't say I disagree with Kenner.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 05:26 PM

http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale...sonLoose2a.jpg

I was a big fan of Harpoon Harrison. Great name. Seems like a great dude. He's a real Southern California type.
He seems like he's really relaxed, and remeniscent of Patrick Swayze in Point Break. Not as violent though.
He just hunts dinos one season a year so he can have enough money to surf and drink Coronas in Magaritaville.

thedamndest 05-21-2009 05:26 PM

Dr. Snare is everything Muldoon should have been.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 05:27 PM

http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale...TrexComp1a.jpg

Jeritron 05-21-2009 05:31 PM

http://www.toyarchive.com/STAForSale...sJackson2a.jpg

I really never liked Jaws Jackson. He was an okay figure, but in general he could never shake the stigma of being a generic park employee. Sure, maybe he had a great track record of Dino Hunting.
But he reminds of that guy who takes Ellie back to the headquarters in his gas-powered jeep. That guy was a tool. Why did he have to point out that his jeep was gas powered? Nobody likes a guy like that.

Also, did he really roll up to the chaotic action figure world of Jurassic Park with a camera? That's it? He's just going to film this stuff? Apparently he didn't get the memo.
If you don't have rocket powered projectiles, explosives, or chemicals, go home.

thedamndest 05-21-2009 05:44 PM

I always thought it was tragic that the dinosaurs had the JP logo imprinted on their bodies. WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY? The entire concept of "branding" the dinosaurs is ridiculous. Is Hammond going to get his raptors mixed in with Triassic Park one Isla over?

Jeritron 05-21-2009 06:06 PM

Maybe the toys take place later in the timeline, once Dotsond and his company have started their rival park.
As for location, I wouldn't be suprised if it was one island over. I imagine the islands of that region would become the Orlando FL of the Dinosaur Theme Attraction world.

Danny Electric 05-21-2009 09:55 PM

Clever girl.

mitchables 05-21-2009 10:49 PM

Pretty sure it's fairly unanimous across the board that Ian Malcolm is the winner and Muldoon loses for his massive failure as a hunter and person in general.

Kapoutman 05-21-2009 10:55 PM

I agree with everybody on Muldoon. I really wished he was going to be the guy shooting raptors left and right to make a path for the other survivors before being eaten by a T-Rex, but still managing to shoot one of its eyes off in the process.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 11:03 PM

but just because he was a failure doesn't make him a bad character. It's part of what his character is.
I don't base how good a character is on how much I like them, but how interesting and memorable they are. Clearly there's some substance to him if we're discussing how much of a doofus he was in the movie 15 years later.

mitchables 05-21-2009 11:04 PM

Muldoon should've gone out the way Faraday in Justice League: New Frontier went out.

That is, by grabbing two hand grenades and setting them off as you get swallowed by a Tyrannosaur. Pure fucking badass.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 11:08 PM

For instance, Lando Calrissian was a smooth pimp daddy. However, he was a huge rat. He stabbed them in the back, and then even after he tried to redeem himself he still tried to jack Han's clothes, ship, friends, and even his girl.
That never sat well with me.
Even after everything blew over I never really forgave him.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchables (Post 2550578)
Muldoon should've gone out the way Faraday in Justice League: New Frontier went out.

That is, by grabbing two hand grenades and setting them off as you get swallowed by a Tyrannosaur. Pure fucking badass.

I think that death was reserved for Dr. Snare

mitchables 05-21-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2550575)
but just because he was a failure doesn't make him a bad character. It's part of what his character is.
I don't base how good a character is on how much I like them, but how interesting and memorable they are. Clearly there's some substance to him if we're discussing how much of a doofus he was in the movie 15 years later.

This is a valid point.

Muldoon was not the worst character in terms of necessarily being thinly developed, because obviously - as you said - there's something to him if we're discussing him at length.

If you're looking for "plain and generic, this movie would've been just fine without them" worst, then Hacker Lex is probably the way to go.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 11:15 PM

Lex was so lame they didn't make an action figure of her. Not even a slew of bazookas and dino damage carnage could make her interesting.
They managed to turn Ian Malcolm and Dennis Nedry into action heroes that would make Rambo look like Barbara Streissand.
Clearly she didn't have much going for her. Kenner knows the deal.

thedamndest 05-21-2009 11:16 PM

You can use anything you want to determine your "Best" or "Worst" qualifications. A vanilla character, a guy with a terrible line, or Muldoon, whose hunting skills are now being called into question.

Jeritron 05-21-2009 11:22 PM

Do we feel he's incompetent? I will put that on the table, seeing as his incompetence cost an innocent Costa Rican his life.
How did he not secure the gate before telling the loading team to step away?

That man died in agony, and his wife and 17 children deserve compensation

Jeritron 05-21-2009 11:25 PM

http://www.yourprops.com/norm-478ccb...rk+(1993).jpeg

I must admit, this is the first you see of Muldoon and he makes a hell of an impression. When this is the first thing you see in a movie you know is going to be about Dinosaurs gone berserk, it's time to mark the fuck out.
I can see the complaint that his character wrote a check that it wasn't able to cash.

I still like him though


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