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Supreme Olajuwon 05-31-2009 03:38 PM

Better Movie #4
 
Even a mad genius couldn't stop the power of Project Mayhem and Fight Club becomes our first multi round winner. Three more victories and we will have our first Hall of Fame inductee.

Last round we saw how Fight Club fared against a genius, but let's see how well it does against a retard.

Polls are open for three days. Happy voting.



<select><option selected="selected">Better Movie History</option><option>1. Ghostbuster def. Pulp Fiction (36-34)</option><option>2. Fight Club def. Ghostbusters (38-28)</option><option>3. Fight Club def. Young Frankenstein (30-9)</option></select>

Nark Order 05-31-2009 03:39 PM

No comparison. Forrest Gump.

Supreme Olajuwon 05-31-2009 03:40 PM

Clearly there's at least one comparison. They're both movies.

Requiem 05-31-2009 03:42 PM

Nah, Fight Club is still more entertaining and more enjoyable than Forrest Gump. I like Tom Hanks, but I like Brad Pitt and Edward Norton way more.

Jeritron 05-31-2009 03:54 PM

I like Paul Giamatti more than I like Keanu Reeves, but Lady in the Water isn't better than The Matrix.

I don't really let the actors weigh on my opinion of a movie

Nark Order 05-31-2009 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeritron (Post 2560198)
Yea, well I like Paul Giamatti more than I like Keanu Reeves, but Lady in the Water isn't better than The Matrix.


Requiem 05-31-2009 03:57 PM

Nah I am saying that their combined performances carry more weight and were more entertaining than Tom Hanks on its own. It is totally possible to like movies based on an actor's performance.


Also, the movie is just better.

Jeritron 05-31-2009 03:57 PM

I never understand the people who judge their interest or enjoyment of a movie on who is in it. I have a few friends who do it.
Good actors are in shitty movies.
Bad actors are in great movies.
It happens.

I guess I'm just more into judging the movie, since I've seen some stinkers/no names give some amazing performances.


I didn't realize you were talking about in-film performances though. That's obviously an important part of a movie, and a fine way to judge it.

Jeritron 05-31-2009 03:59 PM

I think Fight Club is a good movie. I just don't think it's better than Forrest Gump. Forrest Gump is an amazing film.

It's just become fashionable for some to not like it because it's so damn popular and over-played. Plus it's not trendy or cool, but rather "touching", so of course it's not badass to admit to liking Forrest Gump.

I'd go to bat for it being a superior film in all aspects though

Supreme Olajuwon 05-31-2009 04:00 PM

It's true. Jake Busey is one of my least favorite human beings on Earth yet I still found him enjoyable in The Frighteners. It's all about finding your niche.

Jeritron 05-31-2009 04:01 PM

It's all about picking and choosing roles. There are some great actors who've never really been in great movies.

There are also some awful actors who continually show up in great movies.

Jeritron 05-31-2009 04:03 PM

I think actors like Johnny Depp, Brad Pitt, and Christian Bale are fine actors. I don't, however, think they're great actors.

They pick great roles though, and show up in great movies. This helps their reputation. That, and the fact that they're all good-looking middle aged males and that makes them bigger celebrities.

Requiem 05-31-2009 04:04 PM

I don't base my liking of movies solely on the actors. Perhaps you thought that because that was all I mentioned. But actors giving good performances tend to go hand in hand with a movie being good/decent. Like, you don't usually pay attention to performances at all if the movie itself is shitty.. But if acting is horrible, that tends to bring the movie down. No amount of good acting can really make a movie better though if it's just a bad movie in general.

So in two movies which I like, it becomes more about how good the performances were since the movies themselves are both great.. and Norton and Pitt's interactions were way more interesting than Hanks' in Gump.

Jeritron 05-31-2009 04:05 PM

No I'm not singling you out. It just made me think of that, and I'm just thinking out loud about it.

I understand that you were just talking about within the movie, and that's fine.

Juan 05-31-2009 04:09 PM

Forrest Gump, hands down. Just an all around amazing movie.

Lieutenant Dan ftw

Jeritron 05-31-2009 04:10 PM

I WAS RUNNING

Supreme Olajuwon 05-31-2009 04:11 PM

I really don't think there's a flaw in Forrest Gump. It is from beginning to end a perfect movie.

Jeritron 05-31-2009 04:13 PM

It's just an amazing "life story" movie, even though the life isn't Forrest Gump's, but that of America in the 20th century.

Awesome.


If I taught a Recent US History class I'd show this movie, rather than topical ones.

Supreme Olajuwon 05-31-2009 04:14 PM

Amazingly, Forrest Gump only has a 72% on Rotten Tomatoes. And the comments from some of the critics are just mind boggling.

Supreme Olajuwon 05-31-2009 04:17 PM

"A vile, irresponsible film whose massive success says some very frightening things about America."
- Jeffrey M. Anderson
Combustible Celluloid

WHAT? And this guy gets paid to review movies

Jeritron 05-31-2009 04:17 PM

Most classic movies recieve mixed reviews from critics.

It's pretty simple. Any movie that follows a new format, or does anything original is met with a "mixed" reaction, because some people aren't sure if they liked it.
They're so dialed into the formulatic way of things, that they're more likely to enjoy something by the numbers, that hits the notes and accomplishes nothing new.

I'm sure if you look up other old classics you'll see a similar rift in reviews.

Jeritron 05-31-2009 04:19 PM

I'd also just like to point out that Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction, and Shawshank Redemption were all released in the same year.
They were all up for best picture.

Probably the hardest best picture vote of alltime.

The Gold Standard 05-31-2009 04:49 PM

I really like Fight Club, but Forrest Gump is a classic. Easy vote for me.

Requiem 05-31-2009 04:51 PM

Casablanca is a classic, but I still wouldn't put it even near my top 50.

Jeritron 05-31-2009 04:51 PM

True. I'm all for voting favorites. That's why I put Ghostbusters over Pulp Fiction

Nark Order 05-31-2009 05:03 PM

LOWL, HE WS NEVAR A REL PERSIN1!! FIGT CLUB IS TH ROXERS!!1

Supreme Olajuwon 05-31-2009 05:05 PM

No, stop that.

Requiem 05-31-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2560275)
LOWL, HE WS NEVAR A REL PERSIN1!! FIGT CLUB IS TH ROXERS!!1

Haven't seen anyone acting like that here yet.

Juan 05-31-2009 05:27 PM

Way to tard up this thread, narc

Destor 05-31-2009 05:33 PM

GUMP

thedamndest 05-31-2009 06:06 PM

Gump, hands down. It may even fall into the "Movie That is Better than the Book" category, though it has been a long time since I've read the book and I remember they are quite different.

Fight Club is a great movie, and Norton, Pitt, and Carter lead a great cast. But you can't top going the full-retard.

Destor 05-31-2009 06:08 PM

The book > the movie

Destor 05-31-2009 06:09 PM

(as Jenny takes down Forest' pants)

"Where have you been all my life?"

Gump: "I've been around."

Destor 05-31-2009 06:09 PM

Plus chess master and pro-wrestler = win.

thedamndest 05-31-2009 06:10 PM

I kind of want to reread it now.

thedamndest 05-31-2009 06:10 PM

Plus astronaut and King Lear.

DrA 05-31-2009 06:15 PM

I have never seen Forrest Gump.

DrA 05-31-2009 06:17 PM

I feel like an arsehole for voting in this poll anyway but oh well.

Jeritron 05-31-2009 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2560329)
(as Jenny takes down Forest' pants)

"Where have you been all my life?"

Gump: "I've been around."

lol

mitch_h 05-31-2009 07:37 PM

Forrest Gump is a the most reactionary film ever conceived. Fight Club is easily a better film, as Forrest Gump is an awful movie.


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