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Indifferent Clox 06-01-2009 01:48 PM

Tommy Dreamer: Next ECW Champ or next Retiree?
 
He had it together on ECW. Very cool.

Anybody Thrilla 06-01-2009 01:54 PM

I didn't like his chances until they made it a triple threat match. It'd be a huge waste of a storyline if he didn't win.

Nicky Fives 06-01-2009 03:41 PM

next GM of ECW.....

Savio 06-01-2009 04:11 PM

I hope he wins,and is champ for about a week until he loses the title and gets an ovation for his last match. Since his contract is up though I think he might come up short.

Afterlife 06-01-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 2561743)
I hope he wins,and is champ for about a week until he loses the title and gets an ovation for his last match. Since his contract is up though I think he might come up short.

I'd at least let him run to the next ppv. If it's Swagger, you make it that if Dreamer wins, Swagger never gets another ECW title shot; if Swagger wins, Dreamer retires.

Rammsteinmad 06-01-2009 05:34 PM

In all fairness, if he "retired" on Sunday, chances are he'd be back next month anyways...

Savio 06-01-2009 06:26 PM

^I doubt that

thedamndest 06-01-2009 06:34 PM

:wavesad:

The Fonz 06-01-2009 06:48 PM

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Probably this.

Testicle 06-01-2009 07:17 PM

I actually don't think it he will do either.

Somehow they will work it in so that he doesn't win the title and yet he doesn't have to retire, I had heard that he was they were going to sign him to a new deal, so I doubt that he would turn it down.

The Gold Standard 06-01-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick55555 (Post 2561613)
next GM of ECW.....

This is probably what will happen

Xerzes 06-02-2009 02:08 AM

My assumption has been both. Wins, retires champ.

Stealth-Icon 06-02-2009 04:18 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing Dreamer win the belt and have it for a while, but I would like even more to see him in the role of GM. I think that with him in that role it could make a new life for ECW and make it into a more relevant part of WWE and give more meaning to the ECW Title. (after they get a new style belt and drop this DIva knockoff belt)

Mr. Nerfect 06-02-2009 09:30 AM

I honestly wouldn't be surprised either way. Dreamer seems like he wants to keep wrestling, and let's face it -- ECW doesn't exactly have a deep talent pool. Dreamer can talk, he can still work, and something like winning the ECW Title could get him very over. It'd also lead to rematches with Christian, and surely Jack Swagger could bitch and get another match.

And what's the harm of giving Dreamer an ECW Title run? It's not like the company really treats the title that seriously, anyway. It'd help Dreamer, and it furthers storylines. Otherwise, the best ECW is going to have is Christian pinning Dreamer, and Swagger complaining that he still hasn't had a fair shake *cue some sort of match at The Bash*.

Don't ask me why, but I could also see Dreamer turning heel. Some sort of ego trip from living the dream after being a dreamer for so long angle. The dude can then ease back into a face role when he loses the belt (he gets humbled), and then work down into a General Manager role, or something.

Haze 06-02-2009 01:24 PM

I'd like to see him when the title and than decide to retire anyway.

But the chances of that happening slim to none.

Afterlife 06-02-2009 05:11 PM

Apparently he's booked to do house shows in August, so take that as you will.

XL 06-02-2009 06:39 PM

I'd like to see him win the title with a pin over Swagger. Then, on the next ECW, retire and vacate the belt. He would then announce a tournament/4 Way/whatever to determine a new champion.

Swagger would come out and say something like "You can't do that! Only the GM can book matches" to which Dreamer would respond "Well, as of vacating this title, I am the GM!".

Afterlife 06-02-2009 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 2563996)
I'd like to see him win the title with a pin over Swagger. Then, on the next ECW, retire and vacate the belt. He would then announce a tournament/4 Way/whatever to determine a new champion.

Swagger would come out and say something like "You can't do that! Only the GM can book matches" to which Dreamer would respond "Well, as of vacating this title, I am the GM!".

How about we let Noid be Noid?

Mr. Nerfect 06-04-2009 10:49 AM

Nah, Tommy Dreamer needs to actually be approved of GM. A man just can't take that title, yo.

I think we can rule out Jack Swagger winning the ECW Title right now. I mean, it's possible and everything, but Finlay says he's coming after Swagger. It seems they have got a storyline coming up, and there will be unresolved issues with Christian if Swagger wins the belt.

It's between Christian or Tommy Dreamer, I think. Right now, I think Dreamer winning would actually be a shock, and then he can rematch Christian for the title.

Londoner 06-04-2009 11:00 AM

Can't see him winning the title otherwise christians title reign would be pointless. Could see him as a future GM though.

parkmania 06-04-2009 04:50 PM

But would any of us REALLY want to see Dreamer as GM if the product remains the same?

To me, it's only worth it if WWECW moves at least a little bit towards the old ECW ways.

Afterlife 06-04-2009 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2568524)
Can't see him winning the title otherwise christians title reign would be pointless. Could see him as a future GM though.

Pointless how?

Savio 06-04-2009 05:09 PM

I could see christian lose it then win it back tuesday

Londoner 06-04-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2568906)
Pointless how?

Too short a title reign, and has only beaten jack swagger.

Afterlife 06-04-2009 05:28 PM

So? Who's to say he couldn't -- I dunno -- win it back?

Londoner 06-04-2009 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2568943)
So? Who's to say he couldn't -- I dunno -- win it back?

Just think a longer title reign and dreamer as GM would be better.

XL 06-04-2009 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2568503)
Nah, Tommy Dreamer needs to actually be approved of GM. A man just can't take that title, yo.

I didn't say he was self appointed! The issue would have been discussed "backstage" and he would be revealing these facts as a suprise infront of the audience.

I thought that was pretty obvious.

Hornicane 06-04-2009 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehazeeffect (Post 2563363)
I'd like to see him when the title and than decide to retire anyway.

But the chances of that happening slim to none.

That's what I was thinking.

Afterlife 06-04-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2568950)
Just think a longer title reign and dreamer as GM would be better.

As opposed to Xian becoming the first 2x ECW champ since the ECW revival? And getting his second win over the last remaining ECW Original?

Londoner 06-04-2009 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2569090)
As opposed to Xian becoming the first 2x ECW champ since the ECW revival? And getting his second win over the last remaining ECW Original?

????

Really don't get your arguments here. Guess you want dreamer to stay as a wrestler, which is fair enough. I just think his time is up. Good luck to him if it ain't.

Afterlife 06-04-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2569096)
????

Really don't get your arguments here. Guess you want dreamer to stay as a wrestler, which is fair enough. I just think his time is up. Good luck to him if it ain't.

You don't get my arguments? How exactly did they confuse you? :wtf:

Londoner 06-04-2009 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2569100)
You don't get my arguments? How exactly did they confuse you? :wtf:

Just don't get how beating dreamer is meaningful anymore. Even if he is the last remaining ecw original.

Afterlife 06-04-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2569103)
Just don't get how beating dreamer is meaningful anymore. Even if he is the last remaining ecw original.

Like they wouldn't make a big deal out of that? That ECW has officially "moved on" isn't something they would turn into Dreamer accepting his retirement? It's one thing for him to go out as a loser in a match with the odds in his favor; it's another to take the title from him and then demonstrate that he needs ECW, but it doesn't need him.

Hell, Striker was saying Tuesday night, "Can you even imagine ECW without Tommy Dreamer?" To you and I, the implications might be minimal, but they'd play this up as much as Kane was "so ugly" when took off his mask.

Londoner 06-04-2009 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2569113)
Like they wouldn't make a big deal out of that? That ECW has officially "moved on" isn't something they would turn into Dreamer accepting his retirement? It's one thing for him to go out as a loser in a match with the odds in his favor; it's another to take the title from him and then demonstrate that he needs ECW, but it doesn't need him.

Hell, Striker was saying Tuesday night, "Can you even imagine ECW without Tommy Dreamer?" To you and I, the implications might be minimal, but they'd play this up as much as Kane was "so ugly" when took off his mask.

I can see where you're coming from,but you see,i didn't suggest to completely get rid of him,he could be the GM.

Afterlife 06-04-2009 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2569118)
I can see where you're coming from,but you see,i didn't suggest to completely get rid of him,he could be the GM.

His GM status can come at any point after that, because the fans would love it and it would be a slap in the face to the heels that went on the insult spree after his title loss.

Afterlife 06-04-2009 08:50 PM

Not to say I think any of this WILL happen. Just that calling anything but one route "pointless", I feel, is tunnel vision-ish.

Londoner 06-04-2009 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2569127)
Not to say I think any of this WILL happen. Just that calling anything but one route "pointless", I feel, is tunnel vision-ish.

That's fine,i just like christian as champ really. Not sure i would care much if dreamer was.

Juan 06-04-2009 09:50 PM

I'll be surprised if Dreamer wins the ECW title.

Savio 06-05-2009 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2569090)
As opposed to Xian becoming the first 2x ECW champ since the ECW revival?

Booby lashley?

Testicle 06-05-2009 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2569096)
????

Really don't get your arguments here.


Ignore him, he's probably drunk as always.

Although it doesn't make christain look great to lose to Dreamer, they could work it out so that christian drops the title but still comes out looking strong, then after a short title reign by dreamer, christain can get the title back or possible move onto RAW or SD.


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