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Gertner 06-16-2009 11:41 AM

Question re: Smackdown, ECW guys on Raw
 
Every notice that when guys like the Hart Dynasty wrestle on Raw their matches get no reaction, but when they are on ECW they get quite the reaction? Same with guys like Dreamer, Christian.

lol is it brand loyalty?

Londoner 06-16-2009 11:46 AM

Probbaly just because Raw has the worst fucking crowd usually/booking to.

GD 06-16-2009 11:49 AM

Because they are unaware of their existence.

GD 06-16-2009 11:51 AM

They need to be showcased on ppvs. How do you think guys like Rey Mysterio, Randy Orton, John Cena and Batista got over the WWE fan base?

Gertner 06-16-2009 11:56 AM

but it's not like people don't know guys like Christian and Dreamer. They get huge pops on ECW. Last night they could have been Iron Mike Sharpe and S.D Jones to the Raw audience.

GD 06-16-2009 11:58 AM

I blame McMahon's segment for this.

Gertner 06-16-2009 12:00 PM

Than God there were some great matches on Raw to save that.

ministrychick77 06-16-2009 12:29 PM

most people have just given up on ecw, thus don't know anything about it...

and raw just sucked last night. donald trump? really?

now i wanna see it rain cash @ The Bash...
please? i wanna get some more merch.. lol

Kane Knight 06-16-2009 01:51 PM

ECW and Smackdown don't matter. Even the marks know it.

On the other hand, it's kind of amusing. Like, watching wrestling at a golf course, with golf-style PBP.

GD 06-16-2009 02:04 PM

KK I beg to differ. Do you have any idea how many times Smackdown has main evented ppvs this year?

#1. Royal Rumble- WWE Champion Jeff Hardy versus Edge.
#2. Wrestlemania- WWE Champion Triple-H versus Randy Orton.
#3. Backlash- (Last Man Standing Match) World Heavyweight Champion John Cena versus Edge .
#4. Judgement Day- World Heavyweight Champion Edge versus Jeff Hardy.
#5. Extreme Rules- (Ladder Match) World Heavyweight Champion Edge versus Jeff Hardy.

Londoner 06-16-2009 02:09 PM

Yeah smackdown doesn't matter, that's why the ladder match main evented extreme rules, huh.

Gertner 06-16-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2583409)
ECW and Smackdown don't matter. Even the marks know it.

On the other hand, it's kind of amusing. Like, watching wrestling at a golf course, with golf-style PBP.

yes, but the same guys who get cheered/booed on Smackdown/ECW don't even get a reaction when they are on Raw. And it's not new guys like the Hart Dynasty. It's established wrestlers too.

Londoner 06-16-2009 02:37 PM

Raw fans are just odd,is all I can say. They prefer hornswoggle/goldust.

Kane Knight 06-16-2009 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 2583430)
KK I beg to differ. Do you have any idea how many times Smackdown has main evented ppvs this year?

#1. Royal Rumble- WWE Champion Jeff Hardy versus Edge.
#2. Wrestlemania- WWE Champion Triple-H versus Randy Orton.
#3. Backlash- (Last Man Standing Match) World Heavyweight Champion John Cena versus Edge .
#4. Judgement Day- World Heavyweight Champion Edge versus Jeff Hardy.
#5. Extreme Rules- (Ladder Match) World Heavyweight Champion Edge versus Jeff Hardy.


LAWL.

Juan 06-16-2009 05:47 PM

"lawl"

Really?

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-16-2009 06:18 PM

Smackdown does matter... ecw doesn't. Hardy, Punk and Edge all got huge reactions.

Lock Jaw 06-16-2009 06:47 PM

Speaking of The Hart Dynasty... I never watch ECW and so was unaware of their entrance theme (with Bret Hart's opening riff).

So there I was watching RAW, while kind of not paying attention and playing on my computer. Then all of a sudden I hear the beginning of Bret's theme and my head snaps up and I begin to mark out, but then it was only the Hart Dynasty.

Gertner 06-16-2009 06:51 PM

ONLY the Hart Dynasty? Probably the best thing on ECW......besides Zack Ryder of course. YOU KNOW IT!

RatedGSuperstar 06-17-2009 12:24 AM

Wouldn't be surprised if they're still editing in crowd reactions to the taped shows, to be honest.

Juan 06-17-2009 04:28 AM

It's probably because, at the end of day, way more people watch Raw over ECW.

GD 06-17-2009 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 2583804)
ONLY the Hart Dynasty? Probably the best thing on ECW......besides Zack Ryder of course. YOU KNOW IT!

Majority of the crowd was behind Swagger in his Champion versus Champion match against John Cena.

XL 06-17-2009 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 2583430)
KK I beg to differ. Do you have any idea how many times Smackdown has main evented ppvs this year?

#1. Royal Rumble- WWE Champion Jeff Hardy versus Edge.
#2. Wrestlemania- WWE Champion Triple-H versus Randy Orton.
#3. Backlash- (Last Man Standing Match) World Heavyweight Champion John Cena versus Edge .
#4. Judgement Day- World Heavyweight Champion Edge versus Jeff Hardy.
#5. Extreme Rules- (Ladder Match) World Heavyweight Champion Edge versus Jeff Hardy.

#1. The Royal Rumble Match headlined the Royal Rumble (but Hardy v Edge was the last title match)
#2. Wasn't Orton on Raw? Didn't most of that storyline take place on Raw?
#3. Again, didn't most of this story take place on Raw? Wasn't Cena a Raw guy?

Gertner 06-17-2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 2584358)
Majority of the crowd was behind Swagger in his Champion versus Champion match against John Cena.

I'm sure Curt Hawkins would get the same support against Cena depending on the crowd.

GD 06-17-2009 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 2584385)
#1. The Royal Rumble Match headlined the Royal Rumble (but Hardy v Edge was the last title match)
#2. Wasn't Orton on Raw? Didn't most of that storyline take place on Raw?
#3. Again, didn't most of this story take place on Raw? Wasn't Cena a Raw guy?

I totally agree there. I was just talking about the Smackdown participation in the ppv main events. That includes the World Heavyweight Championship Elimination Chamber match from No Way Out.

Kane Knight 06-17-2009 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2583747)
"lawl"

Really?

Well it was pretty funny.

Anybody Thrilla 06-17-2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RatedGSuperstar (Post 2584165)
Wouldn't be surprised if they're still editing in crowd reactions to the taped shows, to be honest.

I dunno, when I went to Smackdown, the reactions sounded the same on TV as they did at the arena. I was pleasantly surprised by that.

Anybody Thrilla 06-17-2009 01:50 PM

Kane Knight, you are ridiculous anymore.


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