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HeartBreakMan2k 06-16-2009 12:30 PM

UFC 102
 
Probably old news, but here's the main event.

http://mm.ticketmaster.com/tmbrowsei...LEBLAST_01.JPGhttp://mm.ticketmaster.com/tmbrowsei...LEBLAST_02.JPG

Destor 06-16-2009 12:31 PM

HOly shit. Thats a big match up.

HeartBreakMan2k 06-16-2009 12:32 PM

Couture and Nogueira is something I've wanted to see for a while. Not surprised about Silva/Jardine. I know Silva was who they wanted to line up against Forest before they decided to go with the Anderson fight.

HeartBreakMan2k 06-16-2009 12:33 PM

Yeah, should be awesome.

HeartBreakMan2k 06-16-2009 12:56 PM

Rest of the card is looking like this tentatively.

Randy Couture vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
Demian Maia vs. Nate Marquardt
Matt Hamill vs. Brandon Vera
Chris Leben vs. Jake Rosholt

Sick fuckin card.

The Show Off 06-16-2009 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartBreakMan2k (Post 2583383)
Rest of the card is looking like this tentatively.

Randy Couture vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Keith Jardine vs. Thiago Silva
Demian Maia vs. Nate Marquardt
Matt Hamill vs. Brandon Vera
Chris Leben vs. Jake Rosholt

Sick fuckin card.

Damn straight.

I'm especially looking foward to Maia vs. Marquardt.

Reavant 06-16-2009 05:06 PM

I like the cards without a championship match in them.... MORE FIGHTS!

Vastardikai 06-16-2009 06:32 PM

Maia vs. marquardt will be very interesting to see. Marquardt should probably keep this fight standing. Because if Maia gets into any kind of range to grab Nate, he's gonna get his fifth Submission of the Night.

Impact! 06-16-2009 10:11 PM

It's gonna be a good fight...I just hope a different Big Nog turns up (As opposed to the one that turned up against Mir)

HeartBreakMan2k 06-16-2009 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impact! (Post 2583967)
It's gonna be a good fight...I just hope a different Big Nog turns up (As opposed to the one that turned up against Mir)

Supposedly that Nog was sick.

Impact! 06-16-2009 11:39 PM

Staph infection + flu + something else if I remember correctly

Impact! 06-16-2009 11:39 PM

Also I get the feeling Nog underestimated Mir for that fight...

HeartBreakMan2k 06-17-2009 12:48 AM

Good grief, these are some other matches being thrown around for this card. The prelims and two other rumored fights.


Preliminary Card
Middleweight bout: Wilson Gouveia vs. James Irvin
Heavyweight bout: Junior dos Santos vs. Justin McCully
Middleweight bout: Nick Catone vs. Mark Munoz
Lightweight bout: Matt Veach vs. Evan Dunham

Other Announced Matchups
Heavyweight bout: Gabriel Gonzaga vs. Chris Tuchscherer
Heavyweight bout: Todd Duffee vs. Mike Russow

Absolutely SICK card. May be the best care top to bottom I've seen.

HeartBreakMan2k 06-17-2009 12:55 AM

However I will say, 101 has a ton of interesting matches as well. First time I'm actually PAYING for three cards back to back to back on my on. (although I'll probably have a bunch of people over and split the cost like we normally do, but we don't usually order every month).

Nark Order 06-17-2009 02:31 AM

Don't know why Dana even bothers with Leben anymore.

HeartBreakMan2k 06-17-2009 02:55 AM

It's because he has heavy hands and a decent chin in addition to a loud personality. You always get a bang fest and potential for knockout of the night with Leban. Rather he's doing the knocking out or getting knocked out, the potential is there. He's a good filler guy.

Impact! 06-17-2009 07:20 AM

Leben isn't bad by any means, and is coming off a Main Event loss. (+ everything HBM2K said). Also I reckon Gouvia V Irvin will be on the main card

Reavant 06-17-2009 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impact! (Post 2584106)
Staph infection + flu + something else if I remember correctly

Quote:

Originally Posted by Impact! (Post 2584109)
Also I get the feeling Nog underestimated Mir for that fight...

I dunno.... I think it ha to do more with the refs actually stopping it. At the time they were getting prerssure for letting fights go long and nog had been knocked down two or three times and took a couple unanswered shots which has been normal for him since like 2002

Funky Fly 06-19-2009 06:32 PM

If you actually look up the history of big Nog, you'd think it's definitely because of the infections.

Rob 06-19-2009 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 2584260)
Don't know why Dana even bothers with Leben anymore.

He produces exciting fights and there probably isn't 10 guys better than him in the UFC.

Reavant 06-19-2009 06:47 PM

Theres barely that many better than him in and out of the ufc

Nark Order 06-19-2009 07:03 PM

Well, the reason I brought this up is because he failed a drug test shorlty after his Bisping fight which he still lost. They were making such a big deal about how "this is a new and improved Chris Leben" when he looked basically the same. I like the guy and at one point I thought that he might become the next big thing but it seems like he just stands in his own way most of the time.

Impact! 06-20-2009 03:01 AM

Actually he did look "new and improved". Leben looked like a beast coming into the Bisping fight...

James Steele 06-20-2009 04:17 AM

A drugged up beast.

Rob 06-20-2009 06:50 AM

How does someone look like a drugged up beast when NOBODY knew he was on steroids?

Reavant 06-20-2009 11:56 AM

that is what he got caught with? i thought e had street drugs in his system for some reason... well anyway I guess I can see why one would look new and improved if they were on roids

Nark Order 06-20-2009 12:04 PM

The Ultimate Fighting Championship has suspended fighter Chris Leben for nine months and fined him one-third of his fight purse following a positive drug test for the steroid Stanazolol after his loss to Michael Bisping at UFC 89 in England in October. The news was reported by Dave Meltzer of Yahoo! Sports.

The UFC has long stood by drug testing of the athletes competing for the promotion, even overseas in England where they have no formal athletic commission to handle the process.

At these events, the UFC leans on former head of the Nevada State Athletic Commission and now UFC vice president, Marc Ratner, to handle the duties normally handled by an overseeing committee like the athletic commissions in the United States.

Leben has never tested positive before, but this is still a major setback in his career.

“I am obviously disappointed with Chris, who has made great strides getting his life back on track,” UFC president Dana White told Meltzer. “To his credit, he has taken responsibility for his actions and is accepting the punishment that has been handed down. But as always, the UFC puts the safety of its athletes first and foremost, and we won’t tolerate anyone using performance enhancing drugs in our organization.”

According to the report, the UFC tested all 22 athletes on the card before and after the fights, and Leben to date is the only fighter who has tested positive for illegal substances.

Source: MMAweekly

James Steele 06-21-2009 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2588106)
How does someone look like a drugged up beast when NOBODY knew he was on steroids?

At least one person knew.

Funky Fly 06-23-2009 06:22 AM

He looked waaay bigger and more cut than the last few times I saw him before that.

Rob 06-23-2009 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 2588761)
At least one person knew.

Well he thought he got it out of his system before so literally nobody knew.

Rob 06-23-2009 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 2591783)
He looked waaay bigger and more cut than the last few times I saw him before that.

He looked in real good shape when I saw him last week. Hopefully it's natural this time.

James Steele 06-24-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2591785)
Well he thought he got it out of his system before so literally nobody knew.

He knew there was a risk, however small, of it being in his system.

Rob 06-24-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 2593025)
He knew there was a risk, however small, of it being in his system.

I'm going by what he said. You are probably right but until I can read minds, I'll believe the guy. It's not like he denied it later or anything.

James Steele 06-24-2009 02:58 PM

He only admitted because he got caught. Hardly noble.

Rob 06-24-2009 03:54 PM

Not saying that either. He could have done a Sean Sherk and denied it until he was blue in the face though.

James Steele 06-24-2009 04:07 PM

I see the point you are making, but I just don't think it matters whether they admit it or not. The test results have you by the balls.

Reavant 06-24-2009 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2593501)
Not saying that either. He could have done a Sean Sherk and denied it until he was blue in the face though.

With sherk theres a lot of different things to consider. One, there was an unusual amount of fighters who tested positive that fight and question as to whether tests were compromised came into question. Two, he was taking a million pills, and while this is a weaker argument, he could have very well taken two or more things that alone are legal and harmless, but together work synergistically to create the type of steroid found in his system and since there is almost no research done to see what suppliments do when mixed together, that is entirely possible.

Rob 06-24-2009 05:51 PM

The main thing to consider is that if he choses to blame the supplements, the commissions all say it is a fighter's responsibility to monitor what goes into their own body.

Reavant 06-24-2009 07:54 PM

No your right, and I dont think he has blamed the suppliments, however if he did it willingly, he has balls considering he let the all access show tape him taking fist fulls of pills

Fabien Barthez 06-26-2009 07:48 AM

fighters sometimes take banned substances to speed up healing processes and such, and plan to have them out and clean in time.

Surely they should test everyone before and after their fights, and if its +ive, then stamp 'dumbfuck' on their heads and send them packing. Surely its only when there is no way of sneaking by it is truely career suicide.


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