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#1-norm-fan 07-12-2009 12:12 AM

Let's be real for a moment...
 
Is there anyone still wrestling today that you genuinely feel a rooting interest for during a match. I don't mean like "I kinda wanna see this guy win the title, so I'll root for him and be happy when he wins it."

I mean, like, you actually kinda feel like a heartbroken little kid when they lose. Like... genuinely angry and pissed that he lost a match in which he was scripted to lose.

I bring this up because the Taker-HBK topic made me think about how that little bit of genuine rooting for one wrestler the way I and most others root for a sports team and how it is lost. Maybe it's my age, maybe it's WWE's inability to build a character properly but I genuinely root for Shawn Michaels to win every meaningless match he is a part of, more-so at a PPV. And HBK is the only man right now who could win a world title that would genuinely make me mark out. (And I don't mean, just enjoying the moment sitting in my chair with a smile and coming online to tell people I just "Marked out".

I had a feeling Kennedy might have been on his way to being that guy. Also, MVP before he became stale on Raw.

So... think long and hard... anyone?

Juan 07-12-2009 12:20 AM

CM Punk

DAMN iNATOR 07-12-2009 12:34 AM

A part of my extended family died when Flair lost at WM XXIV...but the retirement ceremony...on RAW...can't even describe it...I had to use several kleenex, because it was just so :'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(:'(...I am not even exaggerating with the emoticons either.

Pardeep 619 07-12-2009 12:35 AM

I was pissed off when Jeff Hardy lost both his world titles. Fuck you CM Punk!!! (I secretly love Edge so he's ok in my book)

DAMN iNATOR 07-12-2009 12:39 AM

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FourFifty 07-12-2009 01:11 AM

Punk, DiBaise, James Storm

Emperor Smeat 07-12-2009 01:45 AM

Jericho since his debut in WWE and his late WCW years.

In the past : The Rock, Stone Cold, Ric Flair, and Hogan

Jannettyzilla 07-12-2009 02:25 AM

Current: Kane, Jericho, Edge, Orton, Christian, Santino

Past: Hogan, Pillman, Goldberg, Jannetty (and The Rockers), The Rock, Booker T (WCW).

IC Champion 07-12-2009 03:27 AM

Chris Jericho

DaVe 07-12-2009 03:35 AM

When I've said in the past I'm a big Austin, Taker and Kane mark, I don't just mean it in the way you described above, but I am a legit mark when they're wrestling.

I was pretty much shouting at the TV at Mania when things were looking bad for Taker, and pretty much the last 5-10 mins of the match in general. Kane and Austin to a slightly lesser extent: when Kane loses I'm relatively annoyed even though it makes sense for him to put others over... so I'm really enjoying Kane's run on Smackdown right now.

Londoner 07-12-2009 06:41 AM

John Morisson(really annoyed me when he lost on smackdown this week).

ron the dial 07-12-2009 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2623611)
CM Punk


XL 07-12-2009 06:53 AM

The last time I felt like that was for Angle in his match against HBK at WM21. I was literally shouting "Tap. Tap. Tap." and then marked out when Michaels eventually did. I think part of that was because it was rumoured to be his last match.

The time before that would have been for Benoit at WM20. Once again I was marking for the submission finish and when it did I actually stood up and punched the air in front of a number of other people.

Nowadays one of the few guys I like to see winning is Christian. Might be that "Underdog"/"Underappreciated" thing he seems to get.

XIII 07-12-2009 08:10 AM

jericho,morrison,matt hardy,jeff hardy,mvp,

remeber back in the day when you watched all the ppvs with the iiegal cable box?? those were the days... now you have to sit in a uncomfortable computer chair and watch crappy quality shit on justin.tv or wherever..........

$50.00 for a ppv every three weeks is crazy...

remember when somone winning the title was exciting??

Londoner 07-12-2009 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XIII (Post 2623845)

remember when somone winning the title was exciting??

Aye, those were the days...

Now it just feels rather meaningless and 'same old same old' as everybody it seems gets a chance at the top title now, where as before you never knew if they would eventually get there or not, it felt more meaningful. Now its just 'can i get a shot at the title? GM: 'yeah sure you can'

Chavo Classic 07-12-2009 09:16 AM

I got really emotionally invested in Evan Bourne during his ECW title match against Matt Hardy a while back. The only other time I've been genuinely involved in a match since was CM Punk's MITB win, mostly because I thought he had no chance of winning it twice in succession.

I think it really helps to be rooting for a guy to enjoy shows now, although admittedly it's for reasons other than I like the guy's character or gimmick - it's for smark reasons. For example, I liked Evan Bourne's style before he signed for the WWE and I always enjoyed his matches but he was never the focus of my main attention on a card. Since he signed for the WWE, I've hoped he'll do well considering how they treat cruiserweights and luchadors. It's why it's a pleasure to see him pick up victories over the big useless hosses like Henry and Knox.

I've enjoyed CM Punk's matches from ROH in the past, and so it's also satisfying to see a good grappler and athlete succeed in the WWE considering his size and gimmick. It's refreshing to see someone like Punk do well in an environment where only the guys created to suit the usual tastes of Vince get by.

Skippord 07-12-2009 09:56 AM

Edge, CM Punk and Chris Hero

Mr. Nerfect 07-12-2009 10:47 AM

Right now, I do genuinely root for CM Punk, MVP, John Morrison, Chris Jericho, William Regal and The Brian Kendrick. But those are the only ones that I genuinely get upset about when they lose. Dolph Ziggler is getting to that stage, though. I would have at least been upset if he had jobbed to Khali.

Kane Knight 07-12-2009 04:29 PM

Quite a few, actually. Jericho, Benjamin, Michaels, Kane, Morrison, Christian (In theory, sicne I haven't seen him wrestle in ages), Angle (again, in theory), The hardy boys (I like Matt more than Jeff, but I still want to see Jeff win, deep down, no matter how many gripes).

I'm not obsessive enough to get worked up over them, but I do root for them.

Nicky Fives 07-12-2009 06:41 PM

Edge & Christian..... Robert Roode a little

Fox 07-12-2009 09:01 PM

No.

I wish I could say that there was someone, ANYONE in the wrestling industry today who made me revert back to my markish mindset. But there's not. CM Punk comes close but even still I see his matches as business, for better or worse, win or lose.

Last guy that made me feel that way was Rob Van Dam when he was the WWE/ECW Champion.

What Would Kevin Do? 07-12-2009 09:09 PM

Jimmy Jacobs

Testicle 07-12-2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 2624481)
Last guy that made me feel that way was Rob Van Dam when he was the WWE/ECW Champion.

I definitly had that feeling with Rob, just because there was a point where you never thought he'd win the big one, then it became a reality.

I get that with Jeff Hardy too, when Punk cashed in MITB I was really hoping Jeff would still retain.

Testicle 07-12-2009 09:40 PM

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/sp...tling/rvd2.jpg

Happened.

DAMN iNATOR 07-12-2009 09:47 PM

...and then he went and fucked it all up. WHY, ROB, WHY?!:(

Destor 07-12-2009 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 2623600)
Is there anyone still wrestling today that you genuinely feel a rooting interest for during a match. I don't mean like "I kinda wanna see this guy win the title, so I'll root for him and be happy when he wins it."

I mean, like, you actually kinda feel like a heartbroken little kid when they lose. Like... genuinely angry and pissed that he lost a match in which he was scripted to lose.

I bring this up because the Taker-HBK topic made me think about how that little bit of genuine rooting for one wrestler the way I and most others root for a sports team and how it is lost. Maybe it's my age, maybe it's WWE's inability to build a character properly but I genuinely root for Shawn Michaels to win every meaningless match he is a part of, more-so at a PPV. And HBK is the only man right now who could win a world title that would genuinely make me mark out. (And I don't mean, just enjoying the moment sitting in my chair with a smile and coming online to tell people I just "Marked out".

I had a feeling Kennedy might have been on his way to being that guy. Also, MVP before he became stale on Raw.

So... think long and hard... anyone?

No, I am not a mark.

Testicle 07-12-2009 10:16 PM

No, your a big-time wrestler now, how is it in your self-exclusive fanatsy world?

Testicle 07-12-2009 10:22 PM

I swear, 99.9% of your posts contain calling someone a mark or denying that you yourself are a mark. We got it.

Destor 07-12-2009 10:23 PM

Yuppers. Gonna stay that way too. This board went from being moderatly smart to clamouring marks in less than a year.

Pretty annoying.

ron the dial 07-12-2009 10:23 PM

i would like to see a statistical analysis of destor's posts to prove the above claim. otherwise yr word will mean nothing from this point forward.

Destor 07-12-2009 10:31 PM

lol

Juan 07-12-2009 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 2624655)
Yuppers. Gonna stay that way too. This board went from being moderatly smart to clamouring marks in less than a year.

Pretty annoying.

Sad but true

legendkillerRKO 07-12-2009 11:33 PM

I have the opposite...I hate Rey Mysterio so much it hurts my heart when he wins!

thedamndest 07-12-2009 11:41 PM

As a rule of thumb, I always want the Big Show to win. He never does. :(

Kane Knight 07-13-2009 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legendkillerRKO (Post 2624768)
I have the opposite...I hate Rey Mysterio so much it hurts my heart when he wins!

I can empathise. Two faces I will probably always want to see lose (though one is a heel now) are Mysterio and Punk. Fuck them both.

Though hés not a face, Miz almost counts. Except I stopped watching him unless he was involved with someone I gave a shit about.

FourFifty 07-13-2009 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 2624586)
...and then he went and fucked it all up. WHY, ROB, WHY?!:(

Because he likes pot.
He likes pot more than success.

mike adamle 07-13-2009 01:48 PM

Potentially I see Jack Swagger as one of these people, def. not yet though.

Kane Knight 07-13-2009 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 2625455)
Potentially I see Jack Swagger as one of these people, def. not yet though.

If Swagger could handle himself a little better in terms of presence and mic skills, I'd be all over him.

:naughty:

:shifty:

GD 07-13-2009 02:49 PM

Chris Jericho and for some reason I want Punk to turn full hell and have a long World title reign.

parkmania 07-13-2009 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by legendkillerRKO (Post 2624768)
I have the opposite...I hate Rey Mysterio so much it hurts my heart when he wins!

QFT! It made me nearly throw up when he won Big Goldy at WM22. I even had the misfortune of being there - which would have made throwing up even a bigger problem.


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