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TheFallenOneX 07-28-2009 12:41 AM

The Triple Crown
 
Since we now have two Divas that can say they have held both women's championship belts. Who do you think will be the first man to have won the WWE, Heavyweight and ECW Championships.

My guess is either CM Punk or Morrison

kareru 07-28-2009 12:42 AM

you mean the wwe, wcw, and ecw title
i always lol because its the wcw belt they are using for their top belt

Stealth-Icon 07-28-2009 02:42 AM

Big Show did it when he beat RVD for the ECW title

TheFallenOneX 07-28-2009 03:25 AM

Technically Big Show isn't a Triple Crown winner because the WCW title isn't part of the Heavyweight Title Lineage (according to WWE.com) I thought about mentioning that when I put up the post.

Mr. Nerfect 07-28-2009 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth-Icon (Post 2649117)
Big Show did it when he beat RVD for the ECW title

No, Big Show isn't counted as a former World Heavyweight Champion -- he won the WCW Title. Different lineages.

Kurt Angle was being set-up to be the man to do it, I believe, during his run on the ECW brand before he left the company. Chris Benoit was no doubt about to become the ECW Champion before he Benoit'd himself. So let's take a look at the other men that have held two of the three "World Titles."

Triple H (WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion)
Shawn Michaels (WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion)
Edge (WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion)
The Undertaker (WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion)
John Cena (WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion)
Batista (WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion)
Chris Jericho (WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion)
Randy Orton (WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion)
Jeff Hardy (WWE Champion, World Heavyweight Champion)
Big Show (WWE Champion, ECW Champion)
CM Punk (World Heavyweight Champion, ECW Champion)
Kane (WWE Champion, ECW Champion)

That's 12 men, unless I am missing someone. Looking at the dual-World Champion zodiac, it's possible to divide them into two categories: 1) The top stars, who have held both the WWE Championship and the World Heavyweight Title, and 2) The secondary players, who can be considered main eventers, but for the most part just hover around upper mid-card level.

I don't think one of the top players will be the first to achieve this goal. Chris Jericho doing it would be cool, and Jeff Hardy might be in with a shot, but I think it is most likely going to come from someone like CM Punk, or even Kane (who even held the World Heavyweight Title unofficially last year as part of the RAW Scramble Match at Unforgiven).

If I had to guess, I'd go with CM Punk being the first man to do this. All he needs to do is get drafted to RAW, and then he's in with a shot. Especially if his heel persona catches on -- which it is.

Mr. Nerfect 07-28-2009 05:20 AM

If Edge returned and won the 2010 Royal Rumble, and then used the title shot to challenge Christian for the ECW Title at WrestleMania 26 (which is so very unlikely), then Edge could become the first man to have held every achievement in the WWE:

WWE Champion
World Heavyweight Champion
ECW Champion
Royal Rumble Winner
King of the Ring
Mr. Money in the Bank
Intercontinental Champion
United States Champion
World Tag Team Champion
WWE Tag Team Champion
Unified WWE Tag Team Champion
Honourary Hardcore Champion

The Mackem 07-28-2009 05:22 AM

Can you see any of the wrestlers who simply need to win the ECW title dropping down to ECW to challenge for it? I would say CM Punk as well unless Jericho or somebody, somehow, ends up on ECW.

GD 07-28-2009 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kareru (Post 2648965)
you mean the wwe, wcw, and ecw title
i always lol because its the wcw belt they are using for their top belt

WRONG! Check out Jericho's Trophy case.
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/tou...29062/10573844

kareru 07-28-2009 09:21 AM

see, 2 wcw world heavyweight belts

Executioner 07-28-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 2649203)
see, 2 wcw world heavyweight belts

No, he had 2 title reigns as WCW Champion and 2 as WWE World Heavyweight Champion. The 2001 reigns were WCW and the 2008 reigns were WWE.

kareru 07-28-2009 04:41 PM

its still the wcw belt in my eys just with wcw scratched tot and wwe etched in

Juan 07-28-2009 04:46 PM

It's a different belt beyond the WWE logo. The center plate is rounded and not flat like the WCW World title was.

kareru 07-28-2009 04:53 PM

http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrest...s/WCWWORLD.jpg
http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrest...s/WWEWRLD2.jpg

Juan 07-28-2009 04:58 PM

There you go, two different belts.

Also, a top view doesn't show what I was talking about. If you were to get a side view, you'd see that the center plate on the WWE is rounded and the WCW one is flat.

kareru 07-28-2009 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2649749)
There you go, two different belts.

Also, a top view doesn't show what I was talking about. If you were to get a side view, you'd see that the center plate on the WWE is rounded and the WCW one is flat.

you're mad arn't you, with a few minor differences its the same bloody belt

Juan 07-28-2009 05:00 PM

lol yes i'm pissed.

It'd be the same belt if there were NO differences, not minor differences.

Juan 07-28-2009 05:03 PM

Are they strikingly similar? Yes. The same? No.

kareru 07-28-2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2649757)
lol yes i'm pissed.

It'd be the same belt if there were NO differences, not minor differences.

so if a girl gets plastic surgery to get bigger boobs is she now someone else

Juan 07-28-2009 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 2649766)
so if a girl gets plastic surgery to get bigger boobs is she now someone else

This analogy would work if they somehow altered the original design, but they didn't. It's a completely different design.

You posted the pics yourself, do you not see the differences in the design?

Like I said, it's similar and it's definitely modeled after the WCW belt, but is not the same one.

kareru 07-28-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2649771)
This analogy would work if they somehow altered the original design, but they didn't. It's a completely different design.

You posted the pics yourself, do you not see the differences in the design?

Like I said, it's similar and it's definitely modeled after the WCW belt, but is not the same one.

im walking away from this juan

Juan 07-28-2009 05:12 PM

Good. Have a slice of humble pie while you're at it.

kareru 07-28-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2649784)
Good. Have a slice of humble pie while you're at it.

i can't hear you, i have my back turned to you and im up here on my pedestal

thedamndest 07-28-2009 05:27 PM

There are additional difference in the design itself. The WWE belt features a more rounded crown and a larger world. The lettering is similar, but different. It's obvious that the World Heavyweight Championship is based on the WCW belt, but they didn't just peel off the top portion to make way for the logo.

Executioner 07-28-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 2649718)
its still the wcw belt in my eys just with wcw scratched tot and wwe etched in

lol There was never a wCw logo on their world title except for the one when Flair left in 1991. I'm sorry...but your pedestal is about as tall as Hornswoggle.

kareru 07-28-2009 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by executioner38501 (Post 2649822)
lol There was never a wCw logo on their world title except for the one when Flair left in 1991. I'm sorry...but your pedestal is about as tall as Hornswoggle.

it was a figurative statement not literal

AJHayes 07-30-2009 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareru (Post 2649792)
i can't hear you, i have my back turned to you and im up here on my pedestal

It's cute that you think you're a human.

kareru 07-30-2009 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJHayes (Post 2652390)
It's cute that you think you're a human.

i know, divinity's like myself like to masquerade around as humans once in a while

loopydate 08-01-2009 02:13 AM

Are the CZW boys getting any closer to you with their self-mutilation?

Rollerskategirl 08-01-2009 02:30 AM

Didn't Kurt Angle win the ECW title? Wouldn't that make him the first? Or are we being technical with the belt design. I haven't really read the thread tbh.

Juan 08-01-2009 02:32 AM

Kurt Angle never won the ECW title


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