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D Mac 07-30-2009 06:49 AM

Aliens vs Predator
 
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Awesome. As in the old games, you can choose to be the Marine, Alien, or Predator.

Fignuts 07-30-2009 11:16 AM

Yeah, really been looking forward to this.

Kalyx triaD 07-30-2009 02:56 PM

Everything I heard about this game is great. Should be fun multiplayer.

Nowhere Man 07-30-2009 05:27 PM

Oh hell yes. I loved the AvP shooters from a few years back. If this one's on the same level as those, I'm going to be a very happy camper.

Also, I'm glad they're going back to doing the franchise properly, no more of this "let's set it on present-day Earth" bullshit.

Funky Fly 07-30-2009 05:33 PM

I remember the old school early 90s beat em up.

Kalyx triaD 07-30-2009 05:45 PM

Yeah, Capcom hooked it up. Never got rereleased, though.

Nowhere Man 12-27-2009 12:28 AM

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I cannot tell you how happy this makes me.

Kalyx triaD 12-27-2009 02:34 AM

Very cool.

Brujesino 12-27-2009 04:36 AM

this will be a first day buy for me

also thinking about getting the hunters edition

British Beef 12-30-2009 09:14 PM

How have I not heard about this game? Those trailers look immense.

Kalyx triaD 01-15-2010 07:45 PM

Fans will dig this shit, Lance interview:

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Kalyx triaD 01-15-2010 07:49 PM

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Kalyx triaD 02-03-2010 12:24 PM

Demo in 24hrs. Deathmatch Mode on map, "Refinery", all three races available.

Ermaximus 02-03-2010 12:36 PM

I'm going to be playing the story on the day it comes out if 3 other people want to play it on co-op?

Kalyx triaD 02-03-2010 12:38 PM

Is there story co-op? That's one mode I haven't heard of. And is it for each class?

Ermaximus 02-03-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2924713)
Is there story co-op? That's one mode I haven't heard of. And is it for each class?

I know they said there is co-op for the game, so why wouldn't 4 player story co-op be in it? I mean, you'd almost need a 4 player co-op to beat it if you are the marines at least right? Makes it feel more like a squad based game.

Kalyx triaD 02-03-2010 01:17 PM

There's co-op horde mode. I have not heard of a co-op story mode.

Ermaximus 02-03-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2924754)
There's co-op horde mode. I have not heard of a co-op story mode.

I hope there is a co-op story mode.

The Jayman 02-03-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 2924759)
I hope there is a co-op story mode.

if there is accept my friend request and we'll play

Ermaximus 02-03-2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jayman (Post 2924763)
if there is accept my friend request and we'll play


I did that at like 9 this morning sir.

The Jayman 02-03-2010 01:34 PM

very good then

Brujesino 02-03-2010 04:46 PM

cant wait for this demo

a problem i hope doesnt happen is in survival mode if it doesnt have matchmaking it will suck just like halo odst did

any news on matchmaking?

Kalyx triaD 02-04-2010 05:33 AM

That's a good point, but I'm hoping their survivor mode will have matchmaking. I think ODST's Firefight couldn't use matchmaking because of the mode's potentially long playtime (all forms of matchmaking game online are limited by some time cap). Firefight was a special case because of it's ambitious nature (fucking 2hr games for some people), but the survivor mode in AvP looks to be more manageable.

Kalyx triaD 02-04-2010 06:11 AM

DL'ing the demo now, impressions later. Now let me practice some quotes...

"Get to the choppah!"
"Game over, man... GAME OVER!"
"Stay away from her you BITCH!"
"You ugly mother fucker."

Kalyx triaD 02-04-2010 08:09 AM

Interface was less than stellar. It's not bad, but you will appreciate other game's lobbies and menu interface after messing through this. Hell, I played as an Alien first by mistakenly picking it.

The Alien's ability to cling to all surfaces is really disorienting. Another feature to get used to, that I haven't read about, was a jumping move to walls by looking at the surface. Combine this first-person wall crawling with the Alien 3 signature fish lens effect and I felt queasy playing a 1st person game for the first time in a long time. If it doesn't get to you you're tougher than me. But after a while I got used to it, and it was cool stalking other players from the walls. However, instincts have me running along the floor anyway. There's a bit of automatic clinging that I don't fully understand where you will cling to a wall or climb a ledge that as thrown me off at times. The arrow showing you the floor helps a bit. Most of the games I played had Alien players dominating, and we'll talk about that in a bit.

The Predator is fucking cool to use in theory, but there's some function issues that you need to know. You do not start the match with Pred's signature weapons. You have your wrist blades for melee, vision sights, super leap, and cloak. The shoulder cannon, staff, blade disk, and proxy mine(!) must be gathered throughout the map. Perhaps it's a balancing issue, but it kinda kills the effect of being Predator to me. Once you get stocked, Pred's still pretty cool, but the map clearly favors Alien and Marine classes. The super leap means nothing in this demo's map, and you're left running around in the corridors that the Marines fills with bullets and Aliens swarm like roaches. You do, however, feel powerful locking on the signature triangular sight on some prey and scoring some execution kills.

This two beasts have the much promoted execution kills and they feel good landing them. They're well balanced, no different if not less effective than Halo's Assassin kill or CoD and BC's instant melee kill. With this game you have a cool animation (even from the receiving end, getting executed by the Alien is awesome), but the game goes on. You can receive damage during this time, or even have some sarcastic gamer pull one off on you right after. You will learn to pick and choose when to do it.

And now the Marine. People... play as the fucking Marine. He's way more capable than you think, and it's an awesome experience. It's legit scary walking the hallways with creatures running about, low light, your motion sensor blipping. The tension from Aliens where they first search the colony is recreated well. Once you pick up something you look about, but there's a sort of panic when you lose the signal. The motion sensor is just that and yes players are stalking you with that in mind. It doesn't a lot of shots to put any of the other players down, but your ass is grass up close (unless you find that shotty).

If you wanna be a menace, be Alien. You want to feel superior, Predator. For atmosphere, go with Marine.

Now for general analysis... This game is detailed but not too sharp. It just seems 'late last gen' in the graphics department. The melee attacks seem to track similar (but not as jarring) to CoD's Commando lunge. I felt it was pretty unnecessary and it screwed me over a few times. There's actually a hit-stun effect on hit, and I have mixed feelings about seeing this in an FPS. Still, I'd say this is a pretty fucking developed melee system compared to other FPS games. Weak and strong attacks along with blocking ability almost makes a meta-game out of close combat (one the Marine draws the short straw in). Kind odd playing this sort of game with no crouch ability. Sure it would be needed in this sort of concept game but it still feels weird.

The Alien is a fucking beast and the class has been winning game after game. He's tough on the Marine and Predator because you can barely get a view on the speedy fucks. Good players using there wall crawling will frustrate you into a paranoid mess. Pray you see them coming first with their low HP, but other than that you're fucked in most encounters. I don't know if this is a sign of unbalance, I'm not too skilled yet.

You only have FFA deathmatch to play in the demo but I think team DM would have served the concept better, so I'm eagerly awaiting the full game. So love walking around as a Marine and suddenly turned around to see an Alien about to off you. Awesome.

Ermaximus 02-04-2010 08:53 AM

Kalyx, I suppose you and I will have to play this online together then.

The Jayman 02-04-2010 09:16 AM

gonna have to download demo when I get home

Kalyx triaD 02-04-2010 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 2925594)
Kalyx, I suppose you and I will have to play this online together then.

Oh we will. Not much reason to invite during this demo's run what with the FFA being the only mode, but when the full game drops we'll party up for sure.

Kalyx triaD 02-04-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Jayman (Post 2925602)
gonna have to download demo when I get home

If you don't see it in the dash board, go to Xbox.com, at the Marketplace section, and queue it from there.

The Jayman 02-04-2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2925634)
If you don't see it in the dash board, go to Xbox.com, at the Marketplace section, and queue it from there.

thanks for the tip :y:

Jura 02-04-2010 12:18 PM

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Fignuts 02-04-2010 01:12 PM

Is it only on Live?

Kalyx triaD 02-04-2010 11:19 PM

I don't know if PSN has it. It's definitely up on Steam.

D Mac 02-05-2010 04:30 AM

Played the demo. It's ok, nothing special.

The Jayman 02-05-2010 08:23 AM

played it last night. it was ok. I hated using the Alien b/c it was the hardest to control.

Kalyx triaD 02-05-2010 08:34 AM

After the confusion you'll be seeing the world through a bug's eyes. I started toying with Marines hopping about the walls. The hiss button is pretty cool too.

The Jayman 02-05-2010 08:47 AM

The Predator seems the most balanced. He's got the speed, if you pick up the shoulder cannon it's pretty sweet, and the cloaking ability. Also you can change his vision from normal to heat vision

The Phenom 02-05-2010 12:32 PM

Demo was alright probally just a rental for me.

Kalyx triaD 02-05-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jayman (Post 2926539)
The Predator seems the most balanced. He's got the speed, if you pick up the shoulder cannon it's pretty sweet, and the cloaking ability. Also you can change his vision from normal to heat vision

Preds almost never win matches, though. I'm trying to get his groove but the map doesn't help.

The Phenom 02-05-2010 09:57 PM

I disagree with that i just played a match were the predator won a match, mainly because he was using the cloaking ability all the time making him hard to see. The map being as dark as it is doesn't help matters either.


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