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Indifferent Clox 08-10-2009 01:56 AM

When will WWE bring back the Brawl for All or have an MMA division?
 
You know that once UFC starts frequently killing WWE in buys, Vince is going to want to provide an element of competition.

Do you think Vince, shan, or stephanie will turn WWE into a hybrid brand including rounds, time limits, no pins, etc?

Have a belt that is contested under MMA Rules (whether staged or not)?
Have another Brawl for all?

which way do you see Vince and the Powers that be reacting to the fact that UFC has taken their popularity and probably will never give it back?


btw, UFC 101 wasn't nearly as good as ufc 100 or even WM this year.

The best part was silva.

Gertner 08-10-2009 01:58 AM

Good God no. Vince went as far as to make the announcers not called Taker's submission move a gogaplata.

owenbrown 08-10-2009 02:16 AM

the day the Brawl for All returns is the day that I become WWE Champion. :shifty:

screech 08-10-2009 02:20 AM

owenbrown for WWE Champion :y:

screech 08-10-2009 02:20 AM

That could lead to a sweet McLovin spinner on the belt.

...which would be completely and totally amazing

NoRoolz 08-10-2009 02:41 AM

*awaits St. Jimmy post*

Indifferent Clox 08-10-2009 03:15 AM

Not necessarily Vince just whoever gets the company next.

NeanderCarl 08-10-2009 03:33 AM

Vince put together the WMAF (World Martial Arts Federation) in the early/mid 90s and never even got the first show together. He did the Brawl For All in 1998. He apparently seriously considered purchasing UFC at one point in the 90s. Shane McMahon has been desperate for an MMA brand under the umbrella for years.

I think Vince has missed the boat. To be fair, he saw potential in it before most people did, and if the WMAF had gotten off the ground, we may not even have UFC as the market leader today. Vince's vision, which was surely to feature shoot fights but with characters and angles a la wrestling, may have gone down a treat. We'll never know. But by now, it's too late. There is a fully established market leader, and I doubt billionaire Vince is hungry enough is 2009 to fall back into that "number 2" position and claw his way back to the top (or try to, at least). The guy's getting on.

I honestly think one day Shane McMahon will start a league of his own, probably after Vince is dead, maybe even independantly from WWE.

Nicky Fives 08-10-2009 07:06 AM

as Vince's theme says, "no chance in hell"

Indifferent Clox 08-10-2009 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Class Act Carl (Post 2666954)
Vince put together the WMAF (World Martial Arts Federation) in the early/mid 90s and never even got the first show together. He did the Brawl For All in 1998. He apparently seriously considered purchasing UFC at one point in the 90s. Shane McMahon has been desperate for an MMA brand under the umbrella for years.

I think Vince has missed the boat. To be fair, he saw potential in it before most people did, and if the WMAF had gotten off the ground, we may not even have UFC as the market leader today. Vince's vision, which was surely to feature shoot fights but with characters and angles a la wrestling, may have gone down a treat. We'll never know. But by now, it's too late. There is a fully established market leader, and I doubt billionaire Vince is hungry enough is 2009 to fall back into that "number 2" position and claw his way back to the top (or try to, at least). The guy's getting on.

I honestly think one day Shane McMahon will start a league of his own, probably after Vince is dead, maybe even independantly from WWE.

That was a great post.

Fabien Barthez 08-10-2009 08:00 AM

It's costing various 'promotions' like, $70 million, just to fail.

The biggest problem is that all the best fighters are under 6 fight deals with UFC. Even if they were to sink bucket loads of cash into it, and pay fighters more than UFC are. It will still be hard because even if they could tempt 3 out of the top 10 from every weight class accross, it is still going to take over 18 months to get them all under contract. Meaning in the first year, you have no marquee fights.

UFC just have it sewn up when it comes to competition and contracts.

The Mackem 08-11-2009 04:43 AM

The brawl for all was a disaster. Injured wrestlers, confusing scoring system, not the result they were looking for. Think you can add more to that as well.

Mr. Nerfect 08-11-2009 06:30 AM

I think they are better off intergrading MMA fighters with charisma, personality and marketability -- who can cross-over into professional wrestling -- into their shows.

DaveWadding 08-11-2009 06:42 AM

You'll see another Brawl for All when they want a "slam dunk" push for a guy like Steve Williams who was supposed to be a legit fighter.

DAMN iNATOR 08-11-2009 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoRoolz (Post 2666832)
*awaits St. Jimmy post*

http://intertubes.info/downloads/ima...n/strawman.jpg

^See what I did there?:shifty:

Dorkchop 08-11-2009 09:50 AM

WWE should just stick to wrestling. They can do some gimmick matches with an MMA flavour, but that's as far as it should go. I wouldn't mind having some gimmick matches with rounds and maybe even a scoring system, but I'd only like to be treated to a gimmick that gets used maybe twice a year.

Dorkchop 08-11-2009 09:50 AM

Pro wrestling is too ridiculous now to mimic reality.

Indifferent Clox 08-11-2009 09:52 AM

I like that idea dorkchop

Indifferent Clox 08-11-2009 09:52 AM

make it so

St. Jimmy 08-11-2009 07:37 PM

http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/0...ampionship.gif

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-11-2009 10:30 PM

If you put an MMA division in a pro wrestling company that is by far the fucking dumbest thing you can do, it completely underminds the product. "This is fake and this is real" pretty much.

STFU Clox

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-11-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 2670408)

lol and doing fake choreographed moves while wearing tights is all that much better?

Sixx 08-11-2009 10:37 PM

Remember his football league and bodybuilding federation?


Yeah, neither do I.

Kane Knight 08-12-2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 2666755)
Good God no. Vince went as far as to make the announcers not called Taker's submission move a gogaplata.

So wait...Undertaker is no longer a MMA Zombie?

Kane Knight 08-12-2009 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 2669096)

Typical Kane Knight post. [/tard]


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