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BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 10:38 AM

Heel CM Punk is one dimenional and I'm already bored with it.
 
I don't drink, smoke, or do drugs, that makes me better than everyone else.[/Every CM Punk heel rant]

Seriously, does he talk about anything else, ever?

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-20-2009 10:43 AM

Shut the fuck up Bald Fatsington.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 10:47 AM

Jewstead is cranky.

Hanso Amore 08-20-2009 10:49 AM

Thats kind of his gimmick BDC....not sure what the point of this thread is.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-20-2009 10:50 AM

I can smell the butter you're sweating from over here bdc.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 10:55 AM

I'm sweating beer.

DaveWadding 08-20-2009 10:56 AM

CM Punk is sXe and BETTER THAN YOU.

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BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 10:59 AM

I just don't see how CM Punk is going to remain interesting after this fued... He is worse than Jericho. I mean at least Jericho comes up with something new to say every 3 years. What more will Punk do besides saying he is straight edge?

Indifferent Clox 08-20-2009 11:04 AM

It's one fucking feud man.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 11:20 AM

What is he going to different against anyone else?

The Jayman 08-20-2009 11:23 AM

I kinda agree with BDC. I don't see a very long heel run for Punk. granted I like it but for now it is short lived

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 11:28 AM

I mean it is like fighting Kahli, Kahli is always going to do the exact same thing, you have to figure out how to make it entertaining. I mean I could see Shawn Micheals and a CM Punk fued working because Micheals would come off saying he use to do those things but he found religion and CM Punk is just a hollow man who never tested himself and never found his limits or something like that. On account of straight edgers tend to be moral athiests.

I could see someone like Stone Cold reacting funny like admitting to having a few before the segment or whatever and being proud they are drunk.

But when the people who would make it the most interesting are HBK and Stone Cold you have a problem. Because they can make anything interesting.

Indifferent Clox 08-20-2009 11:30 AM

Undertaker will be interesting. You haven't even seen what he can do, you are simply saying "I can't come up with anything for him, so there is no way anything good will come from it." If you could come up with everything, you'd never be surprised and that would suck as well.

Londoner 08-20-2009 11:35 AM

Ah shut up. You barely watch WWE BDC so your judgments are meaningless in this forum. How about you tell us what you expect cm punk to be like?

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox (Post 2685028)
Undertaker will be interesting. You haven't even seen what he can do, you are simply saying "I can't come up with anything for him, so there is no way anything good will come from it." If you could come up with everything, you'd never be surprised and that would suck as well.

I'm more clever than the WWE writters. Deadman Undertaker and CM Punk seems like such a wierd program. Their wrestling styles wouldn't gel very well. And character wise, they don't seem to fit well either. I'm just saying on paper, it looks wierd.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TL (Post 2685040)
Ah shut up. You barely watch WWE BDC so your judgments are meaningless in this forum. How about you tell us what you expect cm punk to be like?

Just because I haven't been watching it lately doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.

Londoner 08-20-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2685048)
Just because I haven't been watching it lately doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.

Yes, it does, unless you've watched highlights from previous shows. Like i said, tell us what he should be like, since you're so clever.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 11:46 AM

I watched a bit of smackdown a week or 2 ago, and been keeping up with it from the best few so I wouldn't have been totally lost when I went to see the taping tuesday.

Plus I've watched wrestling for years, I think I know what to expect from them.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 11:48 AM

As far as CM Punk, what would I like to see out of him...some depth. Maybe explore why he went straight edge. Undertaker could possible do that, what with having powers and playing mind games. He could look into punks past and bring up dark secrets or whatever.

#1-norm-fan 08-20-2009 11:52 AM

Would you rather he come out and say "I am the best this business has to offer... This Sunday I WILL walk out the NEW World champion... etc."? Punk actually has real, legit reasons to say the things he says about Hardy. It's not heel or face, it's just facts. Unlike some dumb fuck like Randy Orton coming out and cutting a heel promo for the sake of it being a heel promo.

Londoner 08-20-2009 11:57 AM

Exactly wwf-fan.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 2685075)
Would you rather he come out and say "I am the best this business has to offer... This Sunday I WILL walk out the NEW World champion... etc."? Punk actually has real, legit reasons to say the things he says about Hardy. It's not heel or face, it's just facts. Unlike some dumb fuck like Randy Orton coming out and cutting a heel promo for the sake of it being a heel promo.

He is just justifying why he thinks he is better, because he doesn't do drugs. Orton justifies why he is the best, because he has heritage on his side. HHH justifies because he pushes himself harder than anyone else and ect. It is still just heel for heel sake.

#1-norm-fan 08-20-2009 12:13 PM

lol. No it's not.

Punk's whole thing is he lives a clean life and somehow gets booed because he ended up in a feud with a man who has a history of being a drug addict and has been given opportunity after opportunity. And the crowd just eats it up and cheers the drug addict. A ridiculously legit gripe.

Orton comes out and basically says "I'm better than you cause I'm the heel and I'm supposed to say these things".

How you can't see the difference in depth between those two characters is beyond me.

Londoner 08-20-2009 12:14 PM

Ortons promo's are the most boring shit ever. if anyones one dimensional, its him.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 12:15 PM

It is a gimmick, and a rather flat on. Aren't these just the same arguments he has been using for years too? I mean he basically did the same thing again JBL and Raven.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2685106)
Ortons promo's are the most boring shit ever. if anyones one dimensional, its him.

Never said he wasn't. I'm just saying I don't see where else CM Punk is going to go.

#1-norm-fan 08-20-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2685108)
It is a gimmick, and a rather flat on. Aren't these just the same arguments he has been using for years too? I mean he basically did the same thing again JBL and Raven.

I think JBL was his only WWE feud before now that was somewhat based on the "straight edge vs. non straight edge" gimmick.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 2685111)
I think JBL was his only WWE feud before now that was somewhat based on the "straight edge vs. non straight edge" gimmick.

Morrison was a straight edge v non straight edge feud.

Londoner 08-20-2009 12:26 PM

This is the first time i've really seen cm punk like this, having not seen his stuff before wwe, and it has entertained me so far so i don't have a problem with it.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 12:27 PM

Well that is because this is the first you've seen of it.

Londoner 08-20-2009 12:29 PM

Yeah, but considering it fits well with his feud v jeff hardy, i still would've liked it.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 12:32 PM

Well then good for you. I just hope they can do something to fill out punk a bit more. This fued writes itself, druggy vs staight edge asshole. But how many times can they do it and keep it interesting?

Londoner 08-20-2009 12:33 PM

I'm sure they'll go in another direction soon, but then this is the wwe...one good feud all year and they think they're the best writers in history.

Kane Knight 08-20-2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2684978)
I just don't see how CM Punk is going to remain interesting after this fued... He is worse than Jericho. I mean at least Jericho comes up with something new to say every 3 years. What more will Punk do besides saying he is straight edge?

Actually, if he threw in a couple of "sycophants" he'd pretty much be Jericho. I'm not sure we can blame Punk for that one, though. If the character he's supposed to play is a drug-free, less verbose Jericho, what the Hell is he really gonna do?

I think a lot of the "boredom" you're coming up with is more about how this idea has not only been done, it's being done, now, on the same show, with another prominent wrestler. And that reeks of poor planning, not something that really comes down to Punk himself.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2685134)
I'm sure they'll go in another direction soon, but then this is the wwe...one good feud all year and they think they're the best writers in history.

Now you see what I'm talking about...They will do one good fued, and then repeat the program for a long time. My problem isn't really with Punk, so much as I know how WWE operates.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 2685137)
Actually, if he threw in a couple of "sycophants" he'd pretty much be Jericho. I'm not sure we can blame Punk for that one, though. If the character he's supposed to play is a drug-free, less verbose Jericho, what the Hell is he really gonna do?

I think a lot of the "boredom" you're coming up with is more about how this idea has not only been done, it's being done, now, on the same show, with another prominent wrestler. And that reeks of poor planning, not something that really comes down to Punk himself.

I agree, Punk is high and mighty because he is drug free. Jericho is high and might because...I really don't know why. But it is the same thing over and over again. Jericho tends to find one thing to say that sounds cool, then he repeats it for the next 3 years. Punk doesn't even have the one cool line.

Londoner 08-20-2009 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2685144)
Now you see what I'm talking about...They will do one good fued, and then repeat the program for a long time. My problem isn't really with Punk, so much as I know how WWE operates.

You didn't make the very clear, but yes i get you now.

BigDaddyCool 08-20-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 2685152)
You didn't make the very clear, but yes i get you now.

Ah, I assumed everyone knew the limits of WWE.

KIRA 08-20-2009 05:56 PM

The could actually work a moral angle with Taker as hes so emerssed in the darkside and along comes cm punk moral absolutist concerned that hes leading people down a bad road he basiclly be shawn micheals knocked up several notches nd minus the religious bent.

Or they could go with punk simply running his mouth to much and writing checks hes not prepared to cash theres a few ways to go here,

Juan 08-20-2009 06:15 PM

I don't care for <s>Swagger</s> Punk...


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