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Juan 12-15-2008 06:58 AM

Matt Hardy says...
 
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WE DID IT! A legit tag team becomes legit singles World Champions!

First and foremost, I want to congratulate my brother Jeff-I am SO proud of him for never giving up of never being detoured. Tonight history was made. Jeff and myself, as the Hardy Boyz, are one of the greatest, most legendary tag teams in the professional wrestling business. That can not be denied, regardless of how smart of a fan or critic you are. We broke barriers in Ladder Matches, Tables Matches, TLC Matches, and several other areas. We semi-main evented Wrestlemania, we did everything you could do as a tag team. At the risk of sounding overconfident, for the record, we have sold more merchandise than any tag team in the history of the business. That is a fact. We have the greatest fans in the world-they've made all these things happen.

When a great tag team splits, one member usually goes on to be great while the other one struggles. That's not the case with us, nor ever will be. We are the first ever true blood brothers to go on to have extremely successful singles careers and both become World Heavyweight Champions. That has never been done in the WWE. Thanks again to all of our supporters and the people who have stuck with us through thick and thin. And I can promise you this-we're just getting started on our singles success journey. Look at my default picture-a picture say a thousands words-this one is no different.

Jeff and I LOVE our diehard supporters, because without them, we would have never made it this far. And there's NO ONE, regardless of how smart or sarcastic they are, that can put a dent in this amazing feat we've achieved. We've came quite a long ways from kids playing wrestlers on a trampoline and wrestling in the Southern Pines National Guard Armory for a couple bucks. We exemplify a living, breathing dream that people can believe in. No one can take away what two little country boys from rural Cameron, North Carolina have accomplished.

We wanna thank our Dad on Earth and our Mother in Heaven, I know she's looking down on us with a smile on her face and pride in her soul. We wanna thank everyone who has believed and supported us, you're more important to us than you could ever imagine. We wanna thank the critics and non-believers for driving us, hope you enjoy those negative words as you swallow them. We don't care about star ratings, match reviews, or what people out of our circle think about our "pushes" and careers (That's not a blanket statement directed towards everyone, some peeps "get" what we're doing actually).. We most importantly care about satisfying our casual fans, giving back to the kids that are wrestling fans (which at one time was us), and being examples of success that people can be motivated by.

I love my brother more than you'll ever know-and I have NEVER been more proud of him than I am right now. God bless you all, I can't say thank you enough. Dreams do come true-Matt and Jeff Hardy are proof of that.

Matt Hardy
ECW World Heavyweight Champion

Jeff Hardy
WWE World Champion
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=456514359

#BROKEN Hasney 12-15-2008 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Hardy
And there's NO ONE, regardless of how smart or sarcastic they are, that can put a dent in this amazing feat we've achieved.

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Originally Posted by Matt Hardy
Matt Hardy
ECW World Heavyweight Champion


DrA 12-15-2008 07:23 AM

He is a pathetic fucking liar. Matt Hardy is not a world champion. Matt Hardy needs to get over himself.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-15-2008 07:24 AM

I think I got to him. He said smart or sarcastic, but I used razor-sharp wit that probably cut him to the bone.

RP 12-15-2008 09:14 AM

I get the feeling Matt and Jeff Hardy secretly fuck eachother

BigDaddyCool 12-15-2008 10:09 AM

APA is a legit tag team that has both been legit world champions.

The Mackem 12-15-2008 10:16 AM

Yeah but one was before, one was after.

BigDaddyCool 12-15-2008 10:32 AM

What is your point?

Splaya 12-15-2008 10:35 AM

WE DID IT! A legit tag team becomes legit singles World Champions!


When a great tag team splits, one member usually goes on to be great while the other one struggles.


Since when is having the ECW title so great.






Too late :shifty:?

The Mackem 12-15-2008 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2365331)
What is your point?

That Matt Hardy's point was that normally tag teams split up and one does well possibly culminating in a world title win and the other does badly. By identifying APA, you have proven his point as Bradshaw went onto bigger and better things claiming a world title whereas Ron Simmons didn't.

BigDaddyCool 12-15-2008 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mackem (Post 2365344)
That Matt Hardy's point was that normally tag teams split up and one does well possibly culminating in a world title win and the other does badly. By identifying APA, you have proven his point as Bradshaw went onto bigger and better things claiming a world title whereas Ron Simmons didn't.

DAMN

The Mackem 12-15-2008 11:01 AM

Yeah but not a world title.

Jeritron 12-15-2008 11:12 AM

Let the guy be excited for christ sakes. It's true that tag teams never achieve that, and it is true that the Hardys were a massive draw and sold a boatload of merchandise.
APA is a different example. For the most part, tag teams go the way of the Rockers or The Hart Foundation when they break up into singles careers.
Both Matt and Jeff have been successful on their own merit.
Ron Simmons was successful beforehand, and wound up in APA when there was nothing left for him. JBL won the WWE title, no denying that, but it wasn't really on his own merit.

I think the best argument against what he's saying is Edge and Christian. Since Matt won the ECW belt and Christian won the TNA(NWA) belt, I'd say they're about even with the Hardys.
That's fitting though, since what they accomplished as tag teams they did together.
My only hope is that Matt and Christian capture the WWE or World Heavyweight belt(s) at some point.
Still don't see the harm in a guy being excited for both himself and his brother, when everyone thought he'd go the way of Marty Jannetty and his brother would go the way of River Phoenix.

KingofOldSchool 12-15-2008 12:07 PM

Oh shut the fuck up.

The ECW World Title is just as legit as all of the other titles being handed out nowadays.

Dorkchop 12-15-2008 01:08 PM

Matt also mentioned him and Jeff holding world titles at the same time.

Kane Knight 12-15-2008 02:00 PM

I love the "no detours" thing. Because losing your job, losing your push, getting handed the world and blowing it certainly wouldn't count as a detour.

But KooSH is right. The ECW is no less valid than The HHH and John Cena championships.

BobBitchen 12-15-2008 02:16 PM

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A dream come true-two blood brothers, two World Champs! A first ever in the WWE!



fROM HIS PHOTO SECTION AT MY SPACE

thedamndest 12-15-2008 02:18 PM

I wonder if they buy those pants in bulk or what.

Jeritron 12-15-2008 02:23 PM

They bought everything Hot Topic had at the close of the 90s, and they're still in business thanks to them

Jeritron 12-15-2008 02:28 PM

I really can't believe Jeff is WWE Champion though. I've envisioned it since 2000, but never fully believed it would happen until last year. Once he got suspended before Mania, I thought it would NEVER happen and now I'm shocked it has.

He's really the last guy left that I predicted/rooted for to become world champion that has or will. Dating back to the attitude era, I wanted to see a group of guys win the big one.
Jericho, Angle, Benoit, Eddie, Booker T, RVD, Edge and Jeff. Now, they all have. Even Orton and Cena, who I wanted to win the title in 2004 went on to do so.
Even CM Punk has. I guess Matt Hardy is really the only one I want to see become WWE champ now, that hasn't. Christian too.

I always like to see new and interesting champions, but I don't care nearly as much about whether or not Morrison, MVP, Kennedy, or whoever wins the belt as I did with Jeff and Edge, etc.

In a way, it's the end of a childhood wishlist, and as a result an era

Lock Jaw 12-15-2008 02:38 PM

Poor Matt Hardy, and his thinking the ECW Title is a legit World Title. He was kicking ass and taking names on Smackdown, and a real world title push could very well have been his in time... but then Jeff gets traded there, and Matt is demoted down to ECW.

KingofOldSchool 12-15-2008 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 2365505)
Poor Matt Hardy, and his thinking the ECW Title is a legit World Title. He was kicking ass and taking names on Smackdown, and a real world title push could very well have been his in time... but then Jeff gets traded there, and Matt is demoted down to ECW.

Then I guess Taz, Raisin, Shane Douglas, Sandman, etc. were never legit World Champs?

Oh wait, they were because it was in the "Real" ECW, not this "fake" ECW stuff Vince McMahon is passing it off as!!!!

thedamndest 12-15-2008 02:52 PM

I would have thought it would have been the other way around, that Jeff would have been ECW champ and Matt WWE.

BigDaddyCool 12-15-2008 03:09 PM

BTW, I'm not counting Matt out, in a year or 2 he might have a brief run as a WWE Champ or WHC.

Kane Knight 12-15-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofOldSchool (Post 2365510)
Then I guess Taz, Raisin, Shane Douglas, Sandman, etc. were never legit World Champs?

Oh wait, they were because it was in the "Real" ECW, not this "fake" ECW stuff Vince McMahon is passing it off as!!!!

Makes Sense. After all, ECW was always a WWE tertiary title not treated as a world title by the owners.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-15-2008 03:23 PM

Stop being cynical about our cynicism :(.

But it's like all of ECW seems to be on Raw or Smackdown at the same time and whoever the ECW champ is always gets beat by guys who can't get win the big one on the other 2 shows. I wish it wasn't, because Matt Hardy is much better than what they make the ECW title out to be.

GD 12-15-2008 03:24 PM

I am happy for the Hardy brothers. Wait wasn't the E & C Connection a legit tag team to hold the world titles.

KingofOldSchool 12-15-2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Munda (Post 2365530)
I am happy for the Hardy brothers. Wait wasn't the E & C Connection a legit tag team to hold the world titles.


Not in the WWE.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 12-15-2008 03:27 PM

I find Matt Hardy incredibly boring, in and out of the ring.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-15-2008 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Munda (Post 2365530)
I am happy for the Hardy brothers. Wait wasn't the E & C Connection a legit tag team to hold the world titles.

Yeah, but they're not going to say Christian former TNA champ.

This might be kayfabe from MH anyways, get jealous of the attention Jeff is getting as WWE champion when he won his "big one" first and turn heel on him.

Champion Vs Champion, brother vs brother at Mania could be awesome and raise the ECW title. I hate to say it but I can't see Jeff holding it that long though, and that's not even taking a wellness violation into account.

KingofOldSchool 12-15-2008 03:29 PM

I'd laugh if Jeff winning the title was just their way of them announcing Jeff's third Wellness Violation, thus getting fired. So that way they can say that they would even fire one of their own World Champions if they went three strikes.

Afterlife 12-15-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2365489)
I wonder if they buy those pants in bulk or what.

Matt Hardy makes his own pants. Do with that what you will.

Afterlife 12-15-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 2365534)
Champion Vs Champion, brother vs brother at Mania could be awesome and raise the ECW title. I hate to say it but I can't see Jeff holding it that long though, and that's not even taking a wellness violation into account.

That's very possible. But, Edge's first title reign was, like...2 weeks. So, time will tell -- especially given Hardy's history.

Shadow 12-15-2008 04:43 PM

JEFF HARDY! JEFF HARDY! JEFF HARDY!

Destor 12-15-2008 04:46 PM

So was Matt taking a shot at Edge and Christian? Or more specifically TNA? Weren't they both champs at the same time? Edge the WWE and Christian the NWA?

BigDaddyCool 12-15-2008 04:56 PM

Come to think of it, if TNA/NWA (which ever one they are using at the time) is considered a legit world championship, the ECW is too.

Xero 12-15-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool (Post 2365606)
Come to think of it, if TNA/NWA (which ever one they are using at the time) is considered a legit world championship, the ECW is too.

TNA title's on par with the ECW title, which is between the IC/US division and the WWE/WH division.

Lock Jaw 12-15-2008 05:35 PM

I'd say TNA's title is above the ECW Title and the IC/US stuff.

BigDaddyCool 12-15-2008 05:40 PM

pffffffffffffffffft, besides Kurt Angle, has any real maineventer held the TNA title?

Destor 12-15-2008 07:52 PM

Sting


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