Tables and Ladders and Chairs... Oh shit...
 

So yeah, Armageddon's gone.

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0C...minorcatid=105

"TLC: Tables, Latters, and Chairs"

Whose fuck up was that?

Anyway, why do they feel the need to do all of these gimmick PPVs? They're cheapening what little appeal these matches still have.

Should we discuss our favorite Armageddon moments here? Can't really think of any off the top of my head unless the last Armageddon was the one with HBK/Y2J.

:nono:

When owenbrown is disappointed, something's gotta change.

These gimmick ppvs are a bad idea. At absoulute most you should have one a year. Heck, when TNA started doing Lockdown I thought it was rediculous, now this is beyond rediculous.

Also, I guarentee that someone gets hurt because of this. That or they are going to massively reduce the dangerous spots in these matches.

I'm assuming this is just going to be "ALL THE MAIN EVENTS ARE TLC MATCHES!!!!!!".

I'd rather there not be a TLC match for the Divas title or anything.

Wow.

And people flame TNA for ridiculous ideas.

Way to ruin another gimmick match.

Still, 2 or 3 TLC matches in a night is a terrible idea. (2 a year is fine with me)

This is somewhat like what deathmatches became in Japan.

Also WTF! The WWE is supposed to be PG now and they are promoting a fucking PPV called Tables 'Latters' and Chairs, who the fuck comes up with this shit.

Are you saying you would rather not watch the epic encounter of Chavo vs. Hornswoggle in a TLC match, where the loser has to stick a chair up his ass while wearing a bear costume? COME ON!!!

Vince Russo

If Hornswoggle wrestles on PPV, I quit.

I think I just found my 'breaking point'.

Maybe it's there way of using those matches annually, like Hell in a Cell main event matches being used one PPV a year. Instead of having 3-4 Hell in a Cell or TLC matches a year, they can make it mean something one night a year. That is just my opinion.

WM 23 Infront of 80,000 people
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WM 24 Infront of 60,000
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Dont think they wont do it.

Thing is, though, it ruins the surprise and makes it obvious it's coming up. For example, we know for a fact that Punk/Taker is going to the Cell in October. I'd rather it be a natural progression to the Cell instead of "We have one PPV to make it to the Cell, quick, rush".

I didn't even like the concept of No Way Out being the Chamber PPV. But that was more because it's between the Rumble and Mania. Otherwise it would have been "OK".

But they just had a TLC match at Summerslam and that PPV is in December. So no.

As for Hornswoggle, he was supporting Finlay in that match. That's fine. He was just a 'humorous' spot in a MiTB match. If he's booked for a one-on-one actual match...that's different.

<font color=goldenrod>If they are just going to make every goddamn PPV a gimmick PPV they may as well make the Survivor Series elimination matches the main focus of Survivor Series like back in the day, instead of just doing one.

Oh wait, that's actually a GOOD idea...not gonna happen.</font>

Ms. Kitty's tits.

Holla. There's another good one.

Ok ok I'm gonna try and make the best of a bad situation, this is how I would run it:

'TLC' isn't an all-gimmick PPV, but mostly a theme that will run through the PPV. At the start of the PPV the World Champion must face the WWE Champion. The winner pretty much get's a free pass whilst the loser will have to go on to defend his title later that night in a four/six-man TLC match.

The four/six contenders can be from any brand, and will be determined either by the standard tournament, OR maybe if they had individual matches at the TLC PPV and win they get a slot in the match. IE: If John Morrion were to beat Dolph Ziggler for the Intercontinental title, he would then move on to the TLC match later that night, potentially giving him a chance to win the IC and World/WWE title in one night.

Sounds messy, but just trying to think of a decent concept rather than 'all the matches will be TLC'.

Also the ECW Champ will just have his own match because it'd be lame to even think that people would want a TLC match for the ECW title to headline a PPV.

Just as there's an I Quit match at Breaking Point, I'm willing to bet there will be a regular ladder match at TLC.

I think either Vince or WWE is getting worried or paranoid for no real reason. At first they made fun of TNA for their gimmick ppvs and now they are doing them when they don't need to do it. Add that to recent reports of WWE signing ROH wrestlers once ROH went to Monday Nights and either Vince wants to kill off ROH/TNA as early as possible or he's worried about something else (maybe UFC/MMA, boxing, or something unrelated).

Well, 2007 did have the 4-team ladder match where Mercury broke his nose.

Am I the only one who's a bit interested in seeing how they can possibly do this for the Raw roster? Any Raw main event has to include one or more of Orton, Cena, Triple H, or HBK. Who's gonna be willing to do a TLC match?

Interested in the "I don't actually want to watch the match" kind of way, maybe.

triple h has had some brutal matches in the past and so as hkb and i don't think either of them are willing to do that anymore

i would like to see cena in a tlc match only because i might see him get legitimately injured

I just want to know how they figured putting their Raw main eventers in a TLC match was a good idea. Will Batista be back by then? If so that's another main eventer who can't do a TLC match.

I would rather it be a surpirse too instead on a card once a year which I agree they would completely rush. I wish they would tweak the elimination chamber into a War Games for Survivor Series.

And they're not even clever names. I mean, "Hell in a Cell" and "TLC"? What's next? "Tag Team"?

Armageddon was one of my favourite ppv names ffs.

they don't do 'tag teams' remember?

Exactly. Why not change the name to Armageddon: TLC, and then the next year have Armageddon: Hell in a Cell? Switch it up every year to keep it fresh and unpredictable.

Now that I could live with.

I'd like to see a "Singles match" pay per view

"Iron Man" PPV... only 3 matches the entire show, and the first match has to start during the Free for All.

a 'wrestling match' ppv

... next on pay per view wwe presents 'wrestling match'