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Juan 09-21-2009 05:44 AM

Bodyguard for CM Punk?
 
The creative team has been pushing to give CM Punk a bodyguard. Ezekiel Jackson had been rumored for the role, but the feeling is that working on ECW is the better place to develop him. Another option is Festus. The angle would be that Punk either got him off of his medication to make him normal, or that he is feeding him pills to control him.

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Dave Youell 09-21-2009 06:18 AM

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

I like the idea, but Festus is not that man.

Makes sense with the Taker fued that he'd want protection

Xerzes 09-21-2009 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 2730012)
Not Festus! Is Jesse still on Smackdown?

No, but Slam Master J is! And by that I mean Jesse dressed like a black guy stereotype and following Cryme Tyme around like a puppy.

Also I'd be okay with Festus getting this role. Despite appearances, he's still young and he's decent in the ring. Built properly, I think he'd do well.

Londoner 09-21-2009 07:31 AM

Make knox his body guard maybe? He ain't doing much else.

Dave Youell 09-21-2009 07:53 AM

Kane?

Mr. Nerfect 09-21-2009 07:57 AM

The idea sounds cheesy and cliche at first, but with Festus I think it could work with Michael Hayes and CM Punk's input. They just need to make sure they don't make Punk a hypocrite himself. If he's using pills to control Festus, then they'll need to try and make it as scientific as possible, and have Punk do it to "prove a point."

"You're all slave to your medication, just like Festus. Why aren't you cheering him? He's just like all of you now."

But that makes Festus really sympathetic. It's not like he'd be a heel under his own choice. Granted, that makes a face turn easier, but it'd just be messy. Unless Festus then decided under his own will power to take the pills, or whatever. The scenario where he takes him off the pills works. It "saves" Festus, which is more to Punk's natural character, and it allows Festus to actively become a heel and basically support Punk's cause.

This is also good for Slam Master J. If they acknowledge his past with Festus, then he can step up as a character, and feud with Festus, and maybe even have a few matches with CM Punk. I'm not saying Jesse Gordy should be the World Heavyweight Champion, or anything, but the fans might get behind him after a somewhat competitive showing with CM Punk, where he is fighting for his friend's honour. Although, does that make Jesse pro-pills? That's where you have to be careful.

I still like the idea of Kaval (Low Ki) being brought in as a bodyguard for Punk. He wouldn't be the tradition big man guard, but I don't think Punk fits traditional. He's the first CM Punk, and not the next Shawn Michaels. Kaval being brought in as a martial arts master and long-time friend of Punk's -- who has the discipline to avoid poisoning his body -- could really work. Kaval's got the sort of kicks that could make him believable as a hired gun for Punk.

Punk as World Heavyweight Champion while Kaval serves as Intercontinental Champion could be really cool. Hell, they could even have a brief reign as Unified WWE Tag Team Champions and really get their heat going. Punk with three belts would get the fans really pissed off. Maybe even throw in Curt Hawkins to their little posse as a follower of Punk's. A sheep to Punk's shepperd. There are better uses for Hawkins, though.

But Punk is also fine solo. He does have such good heat at the moment that he could really help develop either a young or new talent, though.

Mr. Nerfect 09-21-2009 07:58 AM

And yes, Festus is young, great at playing a character, and does have more ring skills than a lot of guys his size do have. Just give him a last name (weren't he and Jesse going to be "The Daltons" for a while?), and he should be right.

Londoner 09-21-2009 07:59 AM

I do not want festus being punks bodyguard. Hell fuckin no.

The Jayman 09-21-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Youell (Post 2730040)
Kane?

somehow I see this as being the logical answer. Since Punk is feuding with Taker it only makes since to bring in Kane as the bodyguard. It will give Kane a little push while keeping him heel. Plus Kane has nothing else to do since Khali is getting knees.

Afterlife 09-21-2009 08:49 AM

I am for virtually anything that is pro-Festus.

Nicky Fives 09-21-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2730041)
The idea sounds cheesy and cliche at first, but with Festus I think it could work with Michael Hayes and CM Punk's input. They just need to make sure they don't make Punk a hypocrite himself. If he's using pills to control Festus, then they'll need to try and make it as scientific as possible, and have Punk do it to "prove a point."

"You're all slave to your medication, just like Festus. Why aren't you cheering him? He's just like all of you now."

But that makes Festus really sympathetic. It's not like he'd be a heel under his own choice. Granted, that makes a face turn easier, but it'd just be messy. Unless Festus then decided under his own will power to take the pills, or whatever. The scenario where he takes him off the pills works. It "saves" Festus, which is more to Punk's natural character, and it allows Festus to actively become a heel and basically support Punk's cause.

This is also good for Slam Master J. If they acknowledge his past with Festus, then he can step up as a character, and feud with Festus, and maybe even have a few matches with CM Punk. I'm not saying Jesse Gordy should be the World Heavyweight Champion, or anything, but the fans might get behind him after a somewhat competitive showing with CM Punk, where he is fighting for his friend's honour. Although, does that make Jesse pro-pills? That's where you have to be careful.

I still like the idea of Kaval (Low Ki) being brought in as a bodyguard for Punk. He wouldn't be the tradition big man guard, but I don't think Punk fits traditional. He's the first CM Punk, and not the next Shawn Michaels. Kaval being brought in as a martial arts master and long-time friend of Punk's -- who has the discipline to avoid poisoning his body -- could really work. Kaval's got the sort of kicks that could make him believable as a hired gun for Punk.

Punk as World Heavyweight Champion while Kaval serves as Intercontinental Champion could be really cool. Hell, they could even have a brief reign as Unified WWE Tag Team Champions and really get their heat going. Punk with three belts would get the fans really pissed off. Maybe even throw in Curt Hawkins to their little posse as a follower of Punk's. A sheep to Punk's shepperd. There are better uses for Hawkins, though.

But Punk is also fine solo. He does have such good heat at the moment that he could really help develop either a young or new talent, though.

everything you said makes perfect sense....... too bad the writers never go with 'perfect sense' :(

Innovator 09-21-2009 09:25 AM

I love me some Ki, but he's not a bodyguard

wwe2222 09-21-2009 10:37 AM

Hmm. I kind of like this idea for Punk. Not sure why but I do.

Mr. Nerfect 09-21-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 2730084)
I love me some Ki, but he's not a bodyguard

Hmm, "bodyguard" might be the wrong word. I'm thinking like a weapon. A hired dog more than anything. Well, I can imagine him showing up and kicking the living shit out of a confused Undertaker, while CM Punk then holds up the World Heavyweight Title while Kaval just does his intense posing.

Dave Youell 09-21-2009 11:09 AM

The delicious irony of Punk controlling Festus with prescription medicine sounds great now I think of it

Mr. Nerfect 09-21-2009 11:14 AM

It's one of those ideas that needs to be done in practice to see whether it works or not. And hey, if it doesn't, he can just GTS Festus to the curb, and talk about how "weak" he was.

Hanso Amore 09-21-2009 11:18 AM

Surely they must have some other Generic Hosses in FCW.

Lance Hoyt?

What abotu Drew Macintyre?

Xero 09-21-2009 11:34 AM

Oh God, what if they bring in Sid?

Hanso Amore 09-21-2009 11:42 AM

Scott Norton

Dave Youell 09-21-2009 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2730244)
Oh God, bring in Sid!

Fixed

I love that guy

ClockShot 09-21-2009 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 2730227)
Surely they must have some other Generic Hosses in FCW.

Lance Hoyt?

What abotu Drew Macintyre?

Hoyt wouldn't be bad.

Hanso Amore 09-21-2009 12:02 PM

Lance Rock

CM Punk


Punk Rock




Book it

Xero 09-21-2009 12:04 PM

Bring back Jesus.

That's Gee-zus, not Hey-Zeus.

AJHayes 09-21-2009 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 2730253)
Scott Norton

This would bring me great pleasure.

Theo Dious 09-21-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2730244)
Oh God, what if they bring in Sid?

That would be the shittiest thing ever.

Theo Dious 09-21-2009 12:11 PM

Anyways, if we're looking for candidates to bodyguard Punk, go with Mike Knox. It would actually fit into the whole "he likes to beat guys up for no reason" thing.

muffalufagus 09-21-2009 12:14 PM

Nigel. Make it Nigel!!!

Theo Dious 09-21-2009 12:16 PM

That would actually work.

Theo Dious 09-21-2009 12:16 PM

Fuck, bring him and that other ROH guy in as Punk's security or something.

Dave Youell 09-21-2009 12:18 PM

Nigel doesn't look imposing enough.

This would need to be someone that looks like they could beat Takers ass.

Unless there's more than one bodyguard of course.

thedamndest 09-21-2009 12:31 PM

A-Train :(

Hanso Amore 09-21-2009 12:45 PM

Anyone who thinks a non-hoss can be a legit "bodyguard" in the WWE is retarded. They need to be treated as a legit threat. Size can add that dimension. if they are smaller than to be a threat means they are top notch fighters/wrestlers, at whioch point it makes you think "why isnt he just on his own and fighting punk for the title if he is so good"

The Raw Hoss allows the explanation that he can hurt the taker via size and strength, but is too raw to be a champion.

Anybody Thrilla 09-21-2009 01:08 PM

Did anybody say Batista yet? He'd be awesome in this role.

Anybody Thrilla 09-21-2009 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2730290)
Anyways, if we're looking for candidates to bodyguard Punk, go with Mike Knox. It would actually fit into the whole "he likes to beat guys up for no reason" thing.

Knox doesn't look like a 'roid head either, so it works on that level too.

Hanso Amore 09-21-2009 01:27 PM

Knox's only addiction is Facial Hair

wwe2222 09-21-2009 01:35 PM

how bout Chyna

Afterlife 09-21-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2730340)
Did anybody say Batista yet? He'd be awesome in this role.

As if the whole point of Punk vs. Batista is NOT going to be steroids. That feud will be as easily written as Punk vs. Jeff.

Anybody Thrilla 09-21-2009 02:15 PM

They wouldn't publicize Batista's sterioid use. Also, the irony of Batista being his bodyguard just screams heel.

Afterlife 09-21-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2730385)
They wouldn't publicize Batista's sterioid use. Also, the irony of Batista being his bodyguard just screams heel.

"They" who? CM Punk has no trouble mentioning Jeff's drug problems, his two suspensions, the consequentially missed WrestleMania and other events AND Jeff's recent events, all brought up on SmackDown. So, why, exactly, would CM PUnk not accuse or insinuate that Batista's size came from excessive steroid use during his career as a bodybuilder?

Evil Vito 09-21-2009 02:55 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Festus as Punk's bodyguard would be great I think. He's a clear case of a guy getting moved to Raw because they thought they'd have something to do with him, but it didn't pan out.

Certainly a better option than Ezekiel Jackson. Jackson might be hella imposing, but he already was a bodyguard once and he seems to have a good thing going on ECW with Regal and Kozlov.</font>


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