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Xero 09-22-2009 09:03 PM

Refs with "personality".
 
I didn't want to use "gimmick", but I was thinking that WWE should have their refs have personalities. I know that now they can't even use their names, but this could be a cool concept.

I was thinking this because when something is overturned, for example, it's never really consistent from finish to finish. Giving a ref "personality" would allow for deeper matches, and maybe actually create a natural heel/face ref dynamic. And have the announcers push these differences, as if they were a factor to the match, which they would be.

The obvious, like the speed of counts, are one thing that differs, but let's add to that. One ref may be more prone to restart a count than others. Another may allow matches to get a little more "extreme" than others (some weapons wouldn't be called for a DQ, for example a TV monitor). Yet another may physically break up rope breaks instead of calling for a DQ.

Those are just some examples of what I'm talking about. Discuss.

thedamndest 09-22-2009 09:26 PM

Not quite what you asked, but awhile back I suggested they have a guy debut as a surly ref. It would start out where he wouldn't like a certain wrestler(s) and then go into he doesn't make his counts and then go into he actually starts doing double team moves with the heel in the match before finishing off the face. I think Destor said he had seen something like that used.

Sixx 09-22-2009 10:03 PM

How bout a racist ref?

Dorkchop 09-22-2009 10:15 PM

I wouldn't mind a wee bit of personality at times. Maybe have one ref count a little faster than other refs at times. Another one could be more lenient on DQs while another can be more strict.

The focus should still be on the wrestlers though. Refs should only come into play for specific reasons and storyline progression and/or angles.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-22-2009 11:20 PM

I like that idea as long as we don't have another heel Nick Patrick. That was so annoying.

Gertner 09-22-2009 11:38 PM

Danny Davis!!!!

The Show Off 09-22-2009 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 2733256)
I didn't want to use "gimmick", but I was thinking that WWE should have their refs have personalities. I know that now they can't even use their names, but this could be a cool concept.

I was thinking this because when something is overturned, for example, it's never really consistent from finish to finish. Giving a ref "personality" would allow for deeper matches, and maybe actually create a natural heel/face ref dynamic. And have the announcers push these differences, as if they were a factor to the match, which they would be.

The obvious, like the speed of counts, are one thing that differs, but let's add to that. One ref may be more prone to restart a count than others. Another may allow matches to get a little more "extreme" than others (some weapons wouldn't be called for a DQ, for example a TV monitor). Yet another may physically break up rope breaks instead of calling for a DQ.

Those are just some examples of what I'm talking about. Discuss.

It's a good concept, but also won that I think would be too detailed for the casual fan to keep up with.

kareru 09-22-2009 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 2733356)
How bout a racist ref?

you mean like earl 'hitler' hebner

have you seen his tash?

Mr. Nerfect 09-23-2009 02:57 AM

I suggested this ages ago, and people complained because it would "distract from the wrestlers." Personally, I like the idea. It makes sense for the referees to be a little different from each other. Some should be more likely to cause a DQ for no reason at all, and others should "let the boys be boys." That sort of thing.

thedamndest 09-23-2009 01:23 PM

I liked when whomever it was kept having problems with the one ref a few months ago. That's about as much detail as I can go into.

Xero 03-30-2010 01:42 PM

Bumped for Dale.

Mr. Nerfect 03-30-2010 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2734339)
I liked when whomever it was kept having problems with the one ref a few months ago. That's about as much detail as I can go into.

I think you would have been thinking about CM Punk and Scott Armstrong?

screech 03-30-2010 01:46 PM

Scott Armstrong seemed to be screwing over Kane a while back (counting three even though Kane kicked out, happened more than once). It was mentioned as it happened, but it never went anywhere.

Mr. Nerfect 03-30-2010 01:47 PM

I remember that. It also looked for a while like he was helping out Legacy? I remember people bringing up that he was part of a wrestling family and helping out those guys.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-30-2010 01:48 PM

Meld mine and Xero's threat together if possible?

tjmidnight420 03-30-2010 01:57 PM

WCW used to play that up in the mid 90s. Not just the lil naitch shit either. I remember the announcers talking about the differences in their refs (speed of count, what they'd allow, that sort of thing). All in all I think it's a good idea, and would also help flesh out the bouts. Remember, even in a one on one bout, there's always an extra person in the ring. They should make it a point to accentuate that. Not all referees are the same, regardless of what Vince and co. want.


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