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Triple Naitch 09-25-2009 05:20 PM

Who Did It Better?: The Sharpshooter
 
Thought I'd give this a try. Kinda like what the n00b did, but better. In this debate you select who was able to do the move best. This week we have the sharpshooter. Although Bret Hart is most commonly associated with the move, Sting and Ronnie Garvin actually used the move first.


Here we go.

Bret Hart
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Sting
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Edge
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Natalya
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The Rock
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Chris Benoit

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Owen Hart
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Zen v.W.o. 09-25-2009 05:23 PM

Bret, for multiple reasons.

His looked the most painful, he could slap it on from a variety of different positions, and sometimes as a beautiful counter.

Owen was second. Yet he isn't on the list.

Triple Naitch 09-25-2009 05:23 PM

Good thinking. I'll edit it.

James Steele 09-25-2009 05:24 PM

Bret Hart...duh. Everybody else does some limp-dick version of the Sharpshooter.

ttetf 09-25-2009 05:24 PM

Owen Hart's was best

Corporate CockSnogger 09-25-2009 05:27 PM

Shawn Michaels

Triple Naitch 09-25-2009 05:27 PM

I'll accept Owen as a write in vote.

Theo Dious 09-25-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zen v.W.o. (Post 2738738)
His looked the most painful, he could slap it on from a variety of different positions, and sometimes as a beautiful counter.

He was also one of the few people who could pull it off and make it look like his opponent wasn't half-helping him.

Swiss Ultimate 09-25-2009 05:43 PM

Bret's Sharpshooter was just technically perfect. It helps that his psychology with the hold worked so well too.

Triple Naitch 09-25-2009 05:43 PM

I wonder what StingerSplash4Lyfe has to say about this.

Juan 09-25-2009 05:43 PM

Bret "Hitman" Hart

blake639raw 09-25-2009 05:48 PM

Bret Hart for sure.

Nicky Fives 09-25-2009 05:50 PM

Owen Hart did it best..... Bret a close number 2 and I always liked Edge's modified version of it

The Show Off 09-25-2009 05:52 PM

Bret Hart. His version of the Sharpshooter looked the most painful of anyones...

And here is the order of best to worst after Bret Hart who should be undisputed number 1...

Chris Benoit
Owen Hart
Edge
Natalya
The Rock

You might be wondering why Sting isn't on my list, we'll that's easy...

STING NEVER DID THE SHARPSHOOTER!

His move was the Scorpion Death Lock. I grew up calling that move the Scorpion Death Lock because I saw Sting do it first (though between the two of them I thin Bret did it first).

But in my opinion

Scorpion Death Lock > Sharpshooter




...honorable mention goes to Kevin Steen for his version of the Sharpshooter.

CSL 09-25-2009 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Show Off (Post 2738796)
Bret Hart. His version of the Sharpshooter looked the most painful of anyones...

And here is the order of best to worst after Bret Hart who should be undisputed number 1...

Chris Benoit
Owen Hart
Edge
Natalya
The Rock

You might be wondering why Sting isn't on my list, we'll that's easy...

STING NEVER DID THE SHARPSHOOTER!

His move was the Scorpion Death Lock. I grew up calling that move the Scorpion Death Lock because I saw Sting do it first (though between the two of them I thin Bret did it first).

But in my opinion

Scorpion Death Lock > Sharpshooter




...honorable mention goes to Kevin Steen for his version of the Sharpshooter.

Pat Patterson suggested Bret use the Scorpion Death Lock, Konnan taught Bret how to do it and Bret came up with the name 'Sharpshooter'

The Show Off 09-25-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2738798)
Pat Patterson suggested Bret use the Scorpion Death Lock, Konnan taught Bret how to do it and Bret came up with the name 'Sharpshooter'

So you're saying Sting did it first? Cause this is something that I've always wondered in the back of my mind.

CSL 09-25-2009 06:09 PM

Sting did it before Bret Hart, yes. One of the older jap guys (Onita, Choshu or somebody like that) invented it

Zen v.W.o. 09-25-2009 06:10 PM

I never liked the way Benoit did it. Looked as awkward as Austin's version.

The Show Off 09-25-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2738857)
Sting did it before Bret Hart, yes. One of the older jap guys (Onita, Choshu or somebody like that) invented it

Yeah I knew it came from Japan.

...well that settles and argument from 4th grade. Unfortunatlly, I haven't seen the kid that I got into the argument with since 5th grade.

The Mask 09-25-2009 06:21 PM

the rock

What Would Kevin Do? 09-25-2009 06:23 PM

Riki Choshu created it I believe... Or at least he made it popular.

And Bret does it best.

redoneja 09-25-2009 06:33 PM

Yea it was Riki Choshu that created the move.

TheHaunted 09-25-2009 06:34 PM

Bret Hart for sure. Owen is a close 2nd

thedamndest 09-25-2009 06:41 PM

Stu Hart invented it in the Dungeon :(

Theo Dious 09-25-2009 06:45 PM

Incidentally, why is Shawn Michaels not on this list? He DID win a WWF title with it...

*erects a concrete bunker to protect from the flames*

Theo Dious 09-25-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2738960)
Stu Hart invented it in the Dungeon :(

As an aside, I've always been convinced that a) at least one Hart child was conceived in the dungeon, and b) I'd imagine Stu Hart to be absolutely frightening in bed, so either Helen liked it rough or he was just really hung...

Tron Cadet 09-25-2009 06:55 PM

I always liked when the rock did the leg flick thing as he went for the sharpshooter

DAMN iNATOR 09-25-2009 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tron Cadet (Post 2738989)
I always liked when the rock did the leg flick thing as he went for the sharpshooter

For whatever reason, I've always been partial to Rock's sharpshooter over 'Hitman''s so I went with Rock on this one.

XL 09-25-2009 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tron Cadet (Post 2738989)
I always hated when the rock pretty much just crossed his opponents ankles over and tried to pass it off as the sharpshooter

Fixed.

Juan 09-25-2009 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 2738995)
For whatever reason, I've always been partial to Rock's sharpshooter over 'Hitman''s so I went with Rock on this one.

wow. Rock probably does the worst looking sharpshooter of anyone on that list.

Juan 09-25-2009 07:14 PM

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Bad Company 09-25-2009 07:19 PM

Owen, also, Rock's was fucking horrible. Absolute shit. Noone should ever vote for it, and I remember how fucked off everyone was when he started using it, and butchering it.

Tron Cadet 09-25-2009 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2739002)
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The HBK one at about 2.00 is soo bad!.. Hogan looked like he was going What the Hell!?:wtf:

Triple Naitch 09-25-2009 07:21 PM

Pretty sure Zen vWo made that video.

Jura 09-25-2009 07:57 PM

All those are closer to Sting's Scorpion Deathlock than they are to Bret's Sharpshooter.

FourFifty 09-25-2009 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 2738751)
Shawn Michaels


AJHayes 09-25-2009 08:28 PM

I went with Bret, but Nattie is a close second. Hers really looks vicious.

The Show Off 09-25-2009 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2739002)
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I'd blame Hulk Hogan for how bad Shawn Michaels' Sharpshooter is, his legs are just so damn stiff. That and since when is Shawn Michaels ever called "The Amazing" Shawn Michaels, what is he a fucking magician? I know the creator of the video is being sarcastic and is actually making a dig at HBK but why would he put amazing in quotes, and not Showstopper or something.

abec 09-25-2009 08:49 PM

This answers easy, whenever I see ANYONE do a sharpshooter, I instantly think Hart.

St. Jimmy 09-25-2009 09:07 PM

http://ultimatehbkfan.tripod.com/sit...g.w300h411.jpg


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