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Supreme Olajuwon 09-28-2009 11:25 PM

Better Wrestler #90
 

3 days.

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option></select>

screech 09-28-2009 11:28 PM

Loved Ted, but I am not as familiar with him.

Plus, I am a peep and cannot vote against Captain Charisma.

So Christian it is.

Lock Jaw 09-29-2009 01:01 AM

I am a huge Christian mark, and cannot bring myself to vote against him.

KYR 09-29-2009 01:06 AM

Dibiase.

I've espoused all the superlatives previously.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2009 01:11 AM

I swear I love Dibiase, but this is the 3rd time in 4 rounds I've voted against him. I hope he's not mad at me.

ron the dial 09-29-2009 01:41 AM

i'm here to counteract you, supreme. but no this one was actually kind of difficult.

Dorkchop 09-29-2009 02:07 AM

Christian is my favorite wrestler ever.

Anybody Thrilla 09-29-2009 02:19 AM

DiBiase. Don't be silly, guys.

screech 09-29-2009 02:20 AM

Because I'm a huge mark for him, I'm going to rep everyone who votes for Christian and posts about it.

I have given out too much rep today though, so I owe Lock Jaw and Dorkchop.

Anybody Thrilla 09-29-2009 02:22 AM

I have higher rep than screech. You can have some for a discussed Dibiase vote IF THAT REALLY FUCKING MATTERS TO ANY OF YOU.

The Legacy 09-29-2009 03:29 AM


My name is Christian, the king of crunk.
I'm taking you to school Cena, and your gonna flunk.
I'm Captain Charisma, read them in weeps.
I'm gonna throw you out for all my peeps.
And just like Dracula, comes from Transylvania.
I'm winning the Rumble, and going on to WrestleMania

Voted for Christain

Ruien 09-29-2009 04:47 AM

Christian! I am a peep for life!!!

Rammsteinmad 09-29-2009 05:13 AM

Captain Charisma!

I doubt he'll win though.

NoRoolz 09-29-2009 07:35 AM

More Christian support hurrr

Fabien Barthez 09-29-2009 07:52 AM

This match-up has already been done.

The Jayman 09-29-2009 09:23 AM

It's all about Captain Charisma. The Instant Classic

Nicky Fives 09-29-2009 09:53 AM

I'm still surprised that DiBiase got by Edge and Rude, I voted against him both times and will continue to do so..... Christian in his closest competition (IMO) yet.....

Seth82 09-29-2009 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2743953)
DiBiase. Don't be silly, guys.

Exactly...

Christian is great but nowhere near the level of Dibiase

This one is an easy one... gotta go with Dibiase definately

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2009 10:31 AM

Christian is more well rounded wrestler. Dibiase was great, but very one dimensional. His character never evolved, whereas Christian has gone from quiet goth lacky, to reeking of awesomeness, to Captain Charisma and the Instant Classic.

Plus Christian was involved in one of my favorite feuds of all time with the Hardys and the Dudleys.

Jannettyzilla 09-29-2009 10:35 AM

Christian, 'cause he's better on the kazoo.

The Gold Standard 09-29-2009 11:26 AM

If Ted is better than Edge, then he is better than Christian because Edge is better than Christian.

Gertner 09-29-2009 11:45 AM

DiBiase

Anybody Thrilla 09-29-2009 03:30 PM

I wish more people were over 15 years old here.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2009 04:13 PM

If they are 15 then they'd have been only 5 or 6 during the E&C days which was why I voted for Christian, so suck it.

Hornicane 09-29-2009 04:16 PM

Christian, for no reason other than to tie it up.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2009 04:17 PM

I think the perceived decline in the quality of wrestling from when we were kids to now makes some people automatically assume that the wrestlers from back then are of a higher quality than they are now. That may be true in a lot of cases, but this is not one of them.

Anybody Thrilla 09-29-2009 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2744624)
If they are 15 then they'd have been only 5 or 6 during the E&C days which was why I voted for Christian, so suck it.

Right, and how old would they have been for DiBiase? I was a huge Ultimate Warrior mark at 5 or 6, so you suck it, bitch.

Anybody Thrilla 09-29-2009 04:32 PM

It's the fucking Million Dollar Man.

Emperor Smeat 09-29-2009 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2744218)
Christian is more well rounded wrestler. Dibiase was great, but very one dimensional. His character never evolved, whereas Christian has gone from quiet goth lacky, to reeking of awesomeness, to Captain Charisma and the Instant Classic.

Plus Christian was involved in one of my favorite feuds of all time with the Hardys and the Dudleys.

I would argue that in the era or part of the era that Dibiase wrestled, wrestlers didn't need to be multi-dimensional since their characters would last longer before needing to be switched or repackaged if they were good enough.

Christian is one of my favorite wrestlers but Dibiase's heel character is too strong to ignore in this case. Then again a few Benjamins were enough to convince me to vote for Dibiase.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2009 04:40 PM

Very true, but if you look at Dibiase during the nWo days when he didn't have the Million Dollar Man gimmick, it just wasn't the same. He didn't draw your attention. Of course that's not all his fault, but it's reason enough for me to say that I prefer Christian.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2009 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2744656)
Right, and how old would they have been for DiBiase? I was a huge Ultimate Warrior mark at 5 or 6, so you suck it, bitch.

So all that means is you have poor taste. Suck it thrice.

IRodC 09-29-2009 05:11 PM

This is the hardest choice ever, as a peep is difficult for me to vote against christian but I voted for dibiase. See you guys later im gonna go out in my brand new hummer limo

Gertner 09-29-2009 05:42 PM

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Find me a better heel promo during this era.

Fabien Barthez 09-29-2009 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabien Barthez (Post 2744157)
This match-up has already been done.

And Dibiase won.

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2009 06:20 PM

So what?

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2009 06:22 PM

We've also had Eddie Guerrero vs. Chris Jericho twice and each guy won once. Things change.

Triple A 09-29-2009 06:27 PM

Christian was always extremely boring to me. He was probably a way better wrestler (DiBiase is the worst wrestler in WrestleMania for NES) but DiBiase = way way way more entertaining. Haven't seen Christian "recently" but I don't see how he could have gotten "more entertaining" than the Edge & Christian days.

Nark Order 09-29-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2743953)
DiBiase. Don't be silly, guys.

Get out of here with that "You're stupid if you don't vote how I vote" stuff. It doesn't work, I've tried it.

I voted for the Captain.

Arashi Kage 09-29-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2743953)
DiBiase. Don't be silly, guys.

It's the fucking Million Dollar Man.

Right, and how old would they have been for DiBiase? I was a huge Ultimate Warrior mark at 5 or 6, so you suck it, bitch.

Same here, Ultimate Warrior was my childhood favorite.

Time for a 25+ year old fans vs people who missed out on the greatest era of "wrasslin" feud. :p - just kidding.

Seriously though, shouldn't even be a contest, Christian might have grown up watching the greats, was at WM6 in the crowd, but he will never be as memorable and great in the pages of history as the Million Dollar Man.

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CWK 09-29-2009 07:41 PM

You should be more specific in your poll, it just says Ted Dibiase so we may not be clear on which one, the MDM or the Ted Dibiase currently wrestling. I voted for Christian thinking it was the younger Dibiase against him.

But the MDM wins hands down, one of the best heels and one of the best at his gimmick I've ever seen. Would have been a great antagonist tag team with him and JBL.


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