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Xero 09-28-2009 10:37 PM

Bragging Rights = Brand Wars?
 
From PWInsider:

The theme for the 10/25 WWE Bragging Rights PPV will be battles between Raw and Smackdown talents for "bragging rights" over which brand is better.

The logo for the PPV will feature red and blue lettering, playing off the official colors for each brand.

There are also plans to bring in the interactive voting element from Cyber Sunday, the PPV Bragging Rights will replace.

Bragging Rights will take place at the Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh, PA.

Juan 09-28-2009 10:39 PM

no ECW?

thedamndest 09-28-2009 11:32 PM

It sounds like we're going to see a stable of Raw superstars take on a stable of Smackdown superstars.

Lock Jaw 09-28-2009 11:43 PM

Will the stable have horses?

Xero 09-28-2009 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2743809)
It sounds like we're going to see a stable of Raw superstars take on a stable of Smackdown superstars.

Sounds an awful lot like SURVIVOR SERIES.

:|

Perry Saturn 09-29-2009 12:11 AM

Quote:

Will the stable have horses?
Only if vince russo gains creative control of the wwe

kareru 09-29-2009 12:17 AM

would this mean that cena will have to face somebody that isnt orton, hhh or batista

will it be punk?

or will they just have cena vs batista, because it is as predictable as my alarm clock

Juan 09-29-2009 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedamndest (Post 2743809)
It sounds like we're going to see a stable of Raw superstars take on a stable of Smackdown superstars.

I see what you did there

Mr. Nerfect 09-29-2009 02:37 AM

Wow, when I suggested the WWE do this, I didn't think they would actually do it.

Skippord 09-29-2009 02:49 AM

Good work Noid

I like this idea

Rammsteinmad 09-29-2009 04:14 AM

Great, so Raw can shit all over Smackdown...

erickman 09-29-2009 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 2743692)
no ECW?

they need to do run ins and screw up some matches

RP 09-29-2009 08:21 AM

10$ says they still work a Randy Orton vs John Cena match in this card.

The Jayman 09-29-2009 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder (Post 2744182)
10$ says they still work a Randy Orton vs John Cena match in this card.

and somehow throw HHH in

Mr. Nerfect 09-29-2009 08:42 AM

I hope they throw a lot of Champion vs. Champion Matches on the show. John Cena vs. CM Punk vs. Christian, Kofi Kingston vs. John Morrison, Mickie James vs. Michelle McCool and a Unified WWE Tag Team Title match. That is enough to get me somewhat interested in the PPV right there.

Afterlife 09-29-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2744192)
I hope they throw a lot of Champion vs. Champion Matches on the show. John Cena vs. CM Punk vs. Christian, Kofi Kingston vs. John Morrison, Mickie James vs. Michelle McCool and a Unified WWE Tag Team Title match. That is enough to get me somewhat interested in the PPV right there.

As long as there are ZERO titles on the line, I'm fine with all of this. I guess the only titles that could be on the line are the tag titles, but with Jerishow being a team that already consists of SD and Raw, I"d want them to face three brand specific teams in a tornado fourway match of some variety. If they appear at all.

In fact, I"d rather it be a tag team triple threat with brand specific teams battling for the #1 contenders spot.

Mr. Nerfect 09-29-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Afterlife (Post 2744197)
As long as there are ZERO titles on the line, I'm fine with all of this. I guess the only titles that could be on the line are the tag titles, but with Jerishow being a team that already consists of SD and Raw, I"d want them to face three brand specific teams in a tornado fourway match of some variety. If they appear at all.

In fact, I"d rather it be a tag team triple threat with brand specific teams battling for the #1 contenders spot.

That is exactly what I envisioned. Although, I did have the Tag Team Titles being defended as a way of getting at least one title match on the show, the #1 Contender's match sounds a lot tidier. I think just add Jericho & Show to add some star power, though.

Many said that the match was "too big" for a PPV like Bragging Rights, but if they want it to be a big deal, doing another Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels match is a great way to pique interest. Especially if they want this to be a yearly thing, and for it to be remembered as more than "filler."

My original idea for the card was something like:

* John Cena vs. Christian vs. CM Punk in a Champion of Champions Match
* Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker
* Chris Jericho & Big Show vs. MVP & Mark Henry vs. Cryme Tyme vs. The Round Table for the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship
* Randy Orton vs. Batista
* Rey Mysterio vs. The Hurricane
* Triple H vs. William Regal
* Kofi Kingston vs. John Morrison in a Champion vs. Champion Match
* Mickie James vs. Michelle McCool in a Champion vs. Champion Match

I still think something like this would fit really nicely. The Champion vs. Champion Matches would be fun, and both have a different dynamic (face vs. face and heel vs. face). Mickie James can go over McCool, because James is the face, and the Divas Title could use the rub. Kofi Kingston seems less a "sure thing" than John Morrison, so Kofi could keep raising the prestige over the already tremendously booked IC Title.

Triple H vs. William Regal, Rey Mysterio vs. The Hurricane and Randy Orton vs. Batista would be RAW vs. ECW, SmackDown! vs. ECW and RAW vs. SmackDown!. It'd sort of be a "round robin" thing. Triple H would go over Regal; The Hurricane can go over Mysterio, who can still be putting guys over for getting suspended; and Batista can go over Randy Orton in the "most personal" of the inter-brand matches.

The Unified WWE Tag Team Title Match would probably have Jeri-Show retain, but that is not all bad. The Shawn Michaels vs. Undertaker match would be one of the closest things the WWE has to a "draw" at the moment, and they're not exactly going to do it at WrestleMania again. HBK can get his win back so that they can hypothetically promote another match between the two.

The main event COULD be a huge opportunity for the WWE to make ECW look like a credible entity. While Christian would just get a huge rub by being made to look on Cena and Punk's level -- while those two sort of cancel each other out, Christian could hit both guys with a steel chair or the ECW Title belt (taking advantage of the "No DQ in Triple Threats" rule) and pin CM Punk. The ECW Champion standing tall at the end of the show might get a few people interested in that show.

Ultimately, while ECW has the Champion of Champions, RAW would win both Champion vs. Champion Matches, and also has Shawn Michaels, Triple H and Big Show successfully represent RAW. SmackDown! comes out looking the weakest, which may not be ideal, but given how great they are, they can take the hit to put RAW over (which is what is going to happen anyway). Batista and Chris Jericho both get wins for the brand, and their talent will probably steal the show, anyway.

RP 09-29-2009 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2744210)



* Randy Orton vs. Batista



and Batista can go over Randy Orton in the "most personal" of the inter-brand matches.


Yah this time it will be personal. That last Orton Vs Batista match was almost personal and the one before that was half way personal and the one before that was kinda personal and the one before that was the start of something that was getting personal and the one before that, Randy Orton personally customized his trunks. But this time. It's PERSONALLL!

Mr. Nerfect 09-29-2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder (Post 2744228)
Yah this time it will be personal. That last Orton Vs Batista match was almost personal and the one before that was half way personal and the one before that was kinda personal and the one before that was the start of something that was getting personal and the one before that, Randy Orton personally customized his trunks. But this time. It's PERSONALLL!

I never said that all their previous matches haven't been personal, but the other ones I suggested would be far less personal. There is history between William Regal and Triple H, but it's not really "WWE blood feud" relevant.

RP 09-29-2009 10:00 AM

is that what they call having the same match over and over and over and over x5 more, again? " WWE blood fued ".

Mr. Nerfect 09-29-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder (Post 2744237)
is that what they call having the same match over and over and over and over x5 more, again? " WWE blood fued ".

In the WWE...yes. Pretty sure Orton and Batista got their start together, and Orton has like tried to end Batista's career nine or more times by now. If that isn't "personal" then what is?

The Gold Standard 09-29-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 2744046)
Good work Noid


The Mackem 09-29-2009 10:32 AM

Maybe they could have a Raw vs Smackdown elimination match and then a Smackdown superstar thinks he has won but then Hardcore Holly comes down to the ring and KAPOW clothesline over the top rope. Holly wins. This could ensure the biggest bidding war for a free agent since Scott Steiner.

Nicky Fives 09-29-2009 11:19 AM

double that

redoneja 09-29-2009 12:14 PM

They should do it where they have a few singles matches between Raw and Smackdown stars and then the winners go on to face each other in a 6-Man or 8-Man tag main event.

The Ravishing One 09-29-2009 01:28 PM

Towards the start of the brand extension this would've been awesome. But after years of people popping up on each others shows its kinda watered it down.

So i give this one big giant - meh.

GD 09-29-2009 02:53 PM

J.R: “I am a raw man through and through. And I have to believe we are better than the competition.”

parkmania 09-29-2009 03:17 PM

It needs to NOT be Champion vs. Champion. That's what Night of Champions PPV is for.

GD 09-29-2009 03:40 PM

Wrong parki! Champions don't battle champions at the NOC.

Ermaximus 09-29-2009 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mackem (Post 2744272)
Maybe they could have a Raw vs Smackdown elimination match and then a Smackdown superstar thinks he has won but then Hardcore Holly comes down to the ring and KAPOW clothesline over the top rope. Holly wins. This could ensure the biggest bidding war for a free agent since Scott Steiner.

I second this notion. Why stop with just Holly though?

Supreme Olajuwon 09-29-2009 03:47 PM

They'll probably come up with some retarded CAN THEY COEXIST tag match with Cena and Orton on a team.

Ermaximus 09-29-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 2744682)
They'll probably come up with some retarded CAN THEY COEXIST tag match with Cena and Orton on a team.

Cena, Orton, HHH, HBK vs. Punk, Taker, Batista, Mysterio maybe? :-\

parkmania 09-29-2009 04:01 PM

No, Cena and Orton will win the tag belts from JeriShow or BatisTerio. :meh:

XL 09-29-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by redoneja (Post 2744323)
They should do it where they have a few singles matches between Raw and Smackdown stars and then the winners go on to face each other in a 6-Man or 8-Man tag main event.

I'd prefer a 5 on 3 situation or something similar.

I hate it when things just seem to work out conveniently. Having 4 guys from each show win to make the sides equal stinks of convenient booking. It's like with this year's draft. Odd how the US/IC and the Divas/Women's Champs managed to switch places during a random draft.

Perhaps that's just me though. :-\

Triple Naitch 09-29-2009 08:31 PM

Anybody wanna bet the official sponsor of the PPV will be WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2010?

redoneja 09-29-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 2745109)
I'd prefer a 5 on 3 situation or something similar.

I hate it when things just seem to work out conveniently. Having 4 guys from each show win to make the sides equal stinks of convenient booking. It's like with this year's draft. Odd how the US/IC and the Divas/Women's Champs managed to switch places during a random draft.

Perhaps that's just me though. :-\


Yea, that's what I would prefer as well. I just figured it would be more likely if the sides were even.

Droford 09-29-2009 11:22 PM

ECW needs to do some run ins.

Mr. Nerfect 09-30-2009 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 2744630)
It needs to NOT be Champion vs. Champion. That's what Night of Champions PPV is for.

No, Night of Champions is an event where every single title is defended.

parkmania 10-01-2009 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 2745826)
No, Night of Champions is an event where every single title is defended.

Yet they somehow always seem to manage a Raw Champ vs. Smackdown Champ vs. ECW champ match either at that show or within one week either side.


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