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Drakul 10-09-2009 03:34 AM

Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing
 
As I mentioned in Kalyx's "New 2D Sonic Announced!" thread, there is a new Sonic racing game on the way.

Sonic & Sega All-Star Racing is basically Mario Kart with Sega characters. Each character has a vehicle to match their personality and uses power-ups as they race around Sega themed courses.
Each character has a speacial move called an All-Star Move. Sonic becomes Super Sonic, Samba plays music and everyone nearby forms a Conga behind him, Amy uses her massive hammer etc.

It's being developed by SUMO Digital, the guys behind the XBLA Outrun game, which I enjoy.

Release date: 10th February 2010 on the 360, Ps3, Wii, PC and DS.

Confirmed characters so far:

Sonic the Hedgehog
Miles "Tails" Prower
Knuckles the Echidna
Doctor Eggman
Amy Rose
Shadow the Hedgehog
Big the Cat
Billy Hatcher
AiAi from Super Monkey Ball
Amigo from Samba de Amigo
Ryo Hazuki from Shenmue
Beat from Jet Set Radio Future
Alex Kidd from Alex Kidd

ToeJam & Earl where intended to be in the game but SEGA couldn't get the rights to them. Fans have contacted the guy that does own the rights (Greg Johnson) and he says, due to fan response, he will discuss it with SEGA but it's unlikely.

Trailers:

Announcement trailer
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Trailer 2:
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Ryo Returns
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Gamescom interview
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I'm on a bit of a SEGA high right now, playing through the old sonic games pretty regularly aswell as others like the Megadrive Ultimate Collection and Outrun on the 360 so this is looking appealing to me. I always enjoyed Mario Kart and with me favouring the 360 this time around, I'm glad I'll have a Mario Kart style game on the 360. It may not be a day 1 purchase but I'll get it not long after.

DAMN iNATOR 10-09-2009 03:37 AM

It'll probably just be gay like the last 10,000 Sonic games.

Drakul 10-09-2009 03:41 AM

I think it could be pretty good. It's being developed by the guys that did Outrun for XBLA which I enjoyed, like I said. I'd not dismiss it right away.

I really want them to add Sketch Turner from Comix Zone. He could drive a black and white sketched hotrod or something. At the least, a Comix Zone themed course could be cool.

DAMN iNATOR 10-09-2009 04:02 AM

I'd take a Comix Zone remake over a track themed like it any day. I could never get very far in it, but I'd love to see it re-done, as long as it stayed true to the original while yet still being a somehow new experience.

Dorkchop 10-09-2009 07:38 AM

This game will suck. Why is Sonic driving a car? Couldn't Sega just make a fun Sonic racing game that's kind of like Sonic Advance 2?

That game was so bad ass
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OssMan 10-09-2009 12:34 PM

I just kinda passed this up as another Mario Kart ripoff but now that I see the dude from Shenmue is in it I kinda have to play it

Emperor Smeat 10-09-2009 01:43 PM

Didn't last time SEGA made a Sonic racing game, it went from $60 to $20 within 2 weeks due to bad sales ?

This one looks better than the previous racing game but I doubt its going to sell well again.

Drakul 10-10-2009 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 2761941)
I'd take a Comix Zone remake over a track themed like it any day. I could never get very far in it, but I'd love to see it re-done, as long as it stayed true to the original while yet still being a somehow new experience.

Yeah I'd like a remake or a sequel. SEGA are doing a new 2D Sonic and held a poll a few months back asking us to vote which Megadrive (Genesis) game we wanted remade. Earthworm Jim was winning but he is already getting a remake so they removed him and Toejam & Earl won as far as I'm aware. What I'm getting at is with a new 2D Sonic, a new EWJ and a new TJ&E, it's not totally impossible we'd get a new Comix Zone eventually. It's just really unlikely.
Anyway Comix Zone is such a "90's" game with the music and style that if they remade it, it would probably be updated which means Sketch would likely have that whispy "emo" hair, be in his early 20s and the music and graphics would match the modern update. I can't see them releasing a new one if it still has a 90's grunge feel to it because "The kids wont buy it".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorkchop
This game will suck. Why is Sonic driving a car?

They answered that question in the gamescom interview. Basically, they tried having him on foot but it didn't work to have him handle like a car, he was too fast and it was just too awkward to do overall.

There are a couple of gameplay videos up. The game is closer to Mario Kart than I thought. The game has 20+ items but the few I saw in gameplay videos, which were only demo builds and only had a handfull of items in them, were SEGA versions of standards MK power ups. We have the speed boost item, the guided missle item and the obstacle-you-drop-behind-you-to-slow-the-others-down item.
Interestingly, something I don't think MK did, was each vehicles handles differently and performs better on different surfaces. The example given was that Sonics car handles well on concrete but slows down on grass while Robotnik handles better on grass and dirt than on concrete. Also, it seems there is a commentator.

Gameplay videos:
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Kalyx triaD 10-10-2009 02:18 AM

Dare I say it looks better than MKart Wii. Can't go wrong as far as a party game, these kart racers.

Drakul 10-10-2009 02:51 AM

I think it has the potential to be as good as MK Wii and maybe even better. We can't say for sure until a demo surfaces.

What I want to know is why Tails is in a generic, random yellow plane and not his Tornado II bi-plane from Sonic 3. If Shadow and Ryo have their motocycles, you'd think Tails would get his vehicle.

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Drakul 11-06-2009 12:53 PM

Halloween trailer. It shows the House of the Dead course and a new character. A zombie couple from HotD:EX called Zobio and Zobiko. Never played HotD so I never saw those characters before. The track itself is a little generic looking to me.

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Drakul 12-15-2009 10:57 PM

Leaked box art for the 360 version appeared on Segas American site and seems to have vanished since. At least, I can't find it now. It was leaked weeks ago but no one believed it until it appeared on the actual Sega site.
The cover shows a console exclusive character for the 360 version.
Click if you want to know

#BROKEN Hasney 12-16-2009 06:23 AM

It's not a spoiler, it's on the cover.

<3 Banjo and Kazooie.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-16-2009 06:25 AM

But don't worry, Sega will botch this up like they have any game they've developed in the past 7 years or so (Bar Billy Hatcher)

Kalyx triaD 12-16-2009 08:35 AM

That's a random addition.

Drakul 12-16-2009 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 2861106)
But don't worry, Sega will botch this up like they have any game they've developed in the past 7 years or so (Bar Billy Hatcher)

It's actualy Sumo Digital that are making the game. They did the XBLA Outrun which I thought was a good game so I have faith in this turning out equal to or better than Outrun. I have to admit, the tennis game sucked, though.

Crazy Nick 12-17-2009 04:57 AM

I am looking forward to this for probably the wrong reason, because it has Ryo Hazuki from Shenmue in it. And hopefully if this sells well, they may consider a Shenmue III, maybe.

DAMN iNATOR 12-17-2009 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drakul (Post 2860587)
Leaked box art for the 360 version appeared on Segas American site and seems to have vanished since. At least, I can't find it now. It was leaked weeks ago but no one believed it until it appeared on the actual Sega site.
The cover shows a console exclusive character for the 360 version.
Click if you want to know

Pfft, no wonder the box art looks so awful. "Rated E for Everyone". I don't mean to be a negative Nancy here, but if this game flops, as I expect it probably will, I hope it's the failure that finally kills Sonic off for good. Sick of hoping for the next great Sonic game and then not having it deliver.

DAMN iNATOR 12-17-2009 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RVDNick (Post 2863054)
I am looking forward to this for probably the wrong reason, because it has Ryo Hazuki from Shenmue in it. And hopefully if this sells well, they may consider a Shenmue III, maybe.

They've been "considering" Shenmue III forever. The problem is it's so cost-prohibitive to make. And also, one X-Factor you have to consider is on the off chance they decided to try to give it a go and then decided to make it PS3 exclusive, would the combination of what they claim is not good enough technology, plus the fact that PS3 is a bitch to program games for, be so much of a turn-off for them that the game would be cancelled mid-development? These are the important things to consider when discussing Shenmue III.

#BROKEN Hasney 12-17-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 2863211)
They've been "considering" Shenmue III forever. The problem is it's so cost-prohibitive to make. And also, one X-Factor you have to consider is on the off chance they decided to try to give it a go and then decided to make it PS3 exclusive, would the combination of what they claim is not good enough technology, plus the fact that PS3 is a bitch to program games for, be so much of a turn-off for them that the game would be cancelled mid-development? These are the important things to consider when discussing Shenmue III.

Nope, the only person at Sega who wanted it was Yu Suzuki and he's as good as left.

Drakul 12-17-2009 03:10 PM

Banjo & Avatar trailer
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So we can play as ourselves and call our friends to help us out. Cool. I guess the Wii could get a similair thing with Miis but no news of that.

Edit: Just found an image of the Avatar All-Star move, incase the traler was too fast.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2789/...fc9ef08d38.jpg
Looks like we'll have to bash A to make our friends run faster.

Drakul 12-23-2009 01:28 AM

Merry Christmas from SEGA, I guess.

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Drakul 01-12-2010 11:08 AM

New trailer, showing off the tracks and 2 new characters
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Drakul 01-13-2010 11:58 AM

Leaked character roster but no source given yet.

SPOILER: show
Quote:

* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Miles "Tails" Prower
* Knuckles the Echidna
* Doctor Eggman
* Amy Rose
* Shadow the Hedgehog
* Big the Cat

From other Sega properties:

* AiAi from Super Monkey Ball
* Amigo from Samba de Amigo
* Ryo Hazuki from Shenmue
* Beat from Jet Set Radio
* Alex Kidd from the Alex Kidd series
* Billy Hatcher from Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
* Zobio and Zobiko, the zombie couple from The House of the Dead EX
* Ulala from Space Channel 5
* B.D. Joe from Crazy Taxi
* Jacky Bryant from the Virtua Fighter series.
* Bonanza Bros.
* ChuChu Rocket
* Opa-Opa

Console-exclusives:

* Banjo-Kazooie (Xbox 360)
* Avatars (Xbox 360)
* Miis (Wii)
Hell yes, Bonanza Bros. I'd have liked Ristar, Toejam & Earl and Sketch Turner in there thoough but Bonanza Bros are good enough.

Emperor Smeat 01-14-2010 12:12 AM

Assuming those exclusive characters are correct, looks like ps3 gets nothing special although makes sense what the Wii exclusive is if the Xbox 360 got avatars as racers.

Kalyx triaD 01-14-2010 12:27 AM

I wonder if this will be any good. Certainly looks inspired...

Drakul 01-14-2010 01:13 AM

I've said it a few times but I think this game could be quite good. It's not going to be Game of the Year by any stretch of the imagination but I think it will be simple and fun which is all you can ask from a mascot kart racer. SUMO Digital is behind this and I think they did a good job with OutRun and this is hopefully building ontop of that.

Drakul 01-14-2010 01:31 AM

Found a source and article:

SPOILER: show
Quote:

Originally Posted by TSSZ
It was only a matter of time – official game websites go up, and immediately, there are those who set to work decompiling the SWF files and uncovering hidden goodies. We’ve already discovered a list of tracks, but what happens when you dig even deeper? You get even more information we probably weren’t meant to see just yet.

Going through the SWF file containing the “All-Star Moves” for each character, you uncover these:

http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/u...et-162x200.jpg http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/u...ne-186x200.jpg http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/u...zabrothers.jpg

These are “All-Star Moves” for as-of-yet unannounced characters. Obviously, the presence of the Space Cat solidifies the presence of Chu Chu Rocket, the PARTS SHOP balloon solidifies the presence of Fantasy Zone’s Opa-Opa, but – and maybe this is just a gap in my Sega Knowledge – who the zeppelin belongs to was initially a mystery to me.

Until I took a look at a SWF file that isn’t actually used by the website but exists just the same (albeit in an unfinished form) – the SWF for the character roster. Only one image exists in Characters.swf, and it is this:

(I don't want to stretch the page so click to enlarge. - Drakul)
http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/u...-2-290x164.jpg

This is, presumably, a mock-up for the “Characters” section of the website, done up to look like the actual ASR character select screen. Sonic himself is selected. If you look to Sonic’s right, you’ll not only notice Big the Cat and Amy Rose, but sandwiched between the two are the Bonanza Bros.

http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/u...zabrothers.jpg

The zeppelin pictured above is most likely their All-Star Move. Looking to Sonic’s left, we have Knuckles and…

http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/u...tuafighter.jpg

Akira (as seen in Virtua Fighter 5). The tuft of blonde hair next to him (mostly covered by Knuckles) is most likely Jacky, suggesting that he and Akira drive as a pair, much like Zobio and Zobiko. If you look even further to the left behind Ulala…

http://www.tssznews.com/wp-content/u...rsofopaopa.jpg

Though almost entirely a silhouette, it is most likely the silhouette of Fantasy Zone’s Opa-Opa, tying in to the “PARTS SHOP” balloon we see in Moves.swf.

So that’s direct confirmation of a Chu-Chu Rocket Racer, Fantasy Zone’s Opa-Opa, The Bonanza Bros. and Virtua Fighter’s Jacky + Akira, all straight from hidden information buried within the official All-Stars Racing Website.

If anything else is discovered, we’ll let you know.



Source: Here.

Kalyx triaD 01-14-2010 01:48 AM

I don't need game of the year, just Mario Kart with cooler characters and effects.

Khuntry 01-14-2010 02:03 AM

not bad..

Drakul 01-14-2010 02:28 AM

I'm curious about game modes. Is it just racing or will it have a Mario Kart style Battle Mode? I'm hoping it has more to do than just race and it will hopefully be online.

Kalyx triaD 01-14-2010 02:28 AM

It fucking better have online. I mean, really.

Drakul 01-14-2010 02:32 AM

Just checked Xbox.com. Yeah, it's online.

-Players: 1-4
-Multiplayer Versus
-In-game Dolby Digital
-HDTV 720p
-Storage Device
Online stuff:
-Players: 2-8
-Content Downloads
-Leaderboards
-Online Tournaments
-Player Stats
-Voice Support

Here's hoping the copyright issue with TJ&E gets sorted and we see them as DLC.

Kalyx triaD 01-14-2010 02:35 AM

Online tournies is cool. Heh, Mario Kart without Friend Codes.

Drakul 01-14-2010 02:35 AM

...and the blue shell.

Kalyx triaD 01-14-2010 02:41 AM

Actually I'm banking on the absence of a much too strict balance system. I don't mind balance protocols but when a legit strategy is getting last place until the last lap and using God weapons to take first or second... it gets annoying - even if you truly never know who's getting first in general games.

I don't mind some Diddy Kong Racing style kart racing, where your actions determine outcome rather than god weapons for 12th placers.

Drakul 01-19-2010 12:30 AM

I just saw a video from September last year with one of the developers talking us through a race. He mentioned how they have tried to balance weapons out. If you trail you'll get offensive weapons, if you're leading, you'll get defensive weapons. He said they are trying to minimize rubberbanding as much as they can. So hopefully the strategy you mentioned wont work in the game.

He also said about the game "Think OutRun but with Sonic.". I thought it would be. So I'll be getting it for sure.

I may as well post the video.
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Kalyx triaD 01-19-2010 10:46 PM

That's awesome.

Drakul 02-01-2010 11:12 PM

Better yet, I've read (on GameFAQS, though) that you can turn All-star moves off. So if they turn out to be a "Win the race" item, we can just turn them off. As long as there is no equivilent to the blue shell, it should be fine, I'd imagine.

Europeans and Austrelians are getting Ryo in his forklift as a preorder exclusive for the 360/PS3. Nothing for Americans yet.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-05-2010 09:57 AM

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics7/...cing-small.jpg


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