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Hanso Amore 10-28-2009 11:23 PM

Steve Austin controlled a crowd like no one ever will
 
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What?

Hanso Amore 10-28-2009 11:24 PM

Seriously, has any wrestler ever controlled a crowd for 7 years....every word....wow

CWK 10-28-2009 11:25 PM

Stone Cold has absolutely zero on The Rock when it comes to controlling a crowd.

Hanso Amore 10-28-2009 11:27 PM

what?

Hanso Amore 10-28-2009 11:30 PM

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Theo Dious 10-28-2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWK (Post 2792727)
Stone Cold has absolutely zero on The Rock when it comes to controlling a crowd.

...please. You can argue that you do or don't think he's better than or as good as the Rock, but the idea that he has "zero" on him is pretty dumb.

Sixx 10-28-2009 11:51 PM

I personally hated the WHAT? promos.

Theo Dious 10-28-2009 11:58 PM

I hated WHAT when he was a heel and it was supposed to be a dickish thing to do. I loved the crowd interplay WHAT segments though, those were great.

Theo Dious 10-29-2009 12:00 AM

Anyways the Rock probably learned how to make the crowd say IS COOKIN by watching Austin make the crowd say "CAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO!"

Hanso Amore 10-29-2009 12:02 AM

I want a hige fan, but name one guy today that can control a crowd like that....or ever

Sixx 10-29-2009 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 2792769)
I want a hige fan, but name one guy today that can control a crowd like that....or ever

The Rock.

It's hard for me to choose between those two, but The Rock was at least just as good as far as getting the crowd reaction is concerned.

Lock Jaw 10-29-2009 12:52 AM

Eddie Guerrero.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-29-2009 01:00 AM

Eddie was great but he was no Rock or Austin.

As far as guys who could control a crowd... Flair, Hogan, Piper etc.

Stickman 10-29-2009 01:32 AM

The What promos got annoying fast.

I'd put the Rock above Austin in ability to control the crowd. I've also always thought HBK was gold on the mic back in the day.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-29-2009 01:37 AM

HBK was not that great on the mic I don't know what you're talking about.

He was good... very good, but it was his ring work and charisma in the ring that did the talking. He does not hold a candle to the true greats on the mic.

Emperor Smeat 10-29-2009 01:50 AM

Only others I can think of would be Vince McMahon post-Montreal but mostly as a heel character and Hogan but not as great as The Rock or Jericho (WWE era) in terms of variety in promos.

Fignuts 10-29-2009 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWK (Post 2792727)
Stone Cold has absolutely zero on The Rock when it comes to controlling a crowd.

Uh, not really. THe crowd has turned on the rock and booed him when he was supposed to be a face on numerous occasions.

DaVe 10-29-2009 02:32 AM

Yeah, outside of Canada in 1997, I don't think Austin has ever been booed as a face, and even as a heel he still got strong pops.

DAMN iNATOR 10-29-2009 03:34 AM

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The Jayman 10-29-2009 08:07 AM

The only ones today that I can think of outside The Rock and Austin are DX

jcmoorehead 10-29-2009 10:38 AM

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Forgot how good Austin's promos were, this is def one of my favourites.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-29-2009 10:41 AM

See nowadays DX tries to be funny and quirky... key word being tries. Rock and Austin just were funny. And when they needed to be serious, they were serious.

Mr. Nerfect 10-29-2009 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 2792907)
Uh, not really. THe crowd has turned on the rock and booed him when he was supposed to be a face on numerous occasions.

I was going to bring this up. When there was a crowd that was against The Rock -- they were fucking against The Rock. I can't remember people ever turning on Austin. Even Hogan has had some problems with that. Austin always had the audience right where he wanted them -- on his side.

I honestly think Austin could get a crowd to cheer him over Hogan or Rock.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-29-2009 12:00 PM

I dont know the crowd only really turned on the Rock when he was wrestling. As soon as he got on the mic they were with him.

Anybody Thrilla 10-29-2009 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 2792760)
I hated WHAT when he was a heel and it was supposed to be a dickish thing to do. I loved the crowd interplay WHAT segments though, those were great.

Seriously? Exact opposite for me. I remember the promo when he first started doing the 'what' thing. He had the whole alliance team in the ring and was basically telling them that they all sucked. I feel like he started it on Tazz.

SCSA: You lost to X-Pac? What? X-Pac? What?

Amazing.

It got annoying when the crowd would start doing it all the time. They still do it sometimes to this day, which is pretty remarkable, yet still annoying.

Anybody Thrilla 10-29-2009 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 2793142)
I dont know the crowd only really turned on the Rock when he was wrestling. As soon as he got on the mic they were with him.

Watch the promo where The Rock delivered a eulogy for Steve Austin if you want to hear some epic heel heat on Rocky. Amazing.

The Show Off 10-29-2009 02:14 PM

I think Foley could control a character better than Austin and The Rock.

It's not because he was more charismatic then the two of them (which I personally think he is) it's because Austin was so huge that he could never get the fans to hate him, and The Rock was so huge that he could only get the fans to hate him when he was up against Austin or Hogan.

Mick Foley wasn't handicapped by being that insanely over so he was able to get you to love him any time he wants, and hate him any time he wants. Just look at his work with TNA right now. One week he can have the fans adore him then next week they;re totally hate him. Foley is so good a swaying the fans, I can't think of anyone equal to him on the regard of making them hate you and love you in such a short span... Possibly Piper.

CSL 10-29-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 2793154)
Seriously? Exact opposite for me. I remember the promo when he first started doing the 'what' thing. He had the whole alliance team in the ring and was basically telling them that they all sucked. I feel like he started it on Tazz.

SCSA: You lost to X-Pac? What? X-Pac? What?

Amazing.

It got annoying when the crowd would start doing it all the time. They still do it sometimes to this day, which is pretty remarkable, yet still annoying.

For sure. Much preferred Austin's heel 'What?' promos over the face one.

"You're name is Hugh...Morrus? What? Is that supposed to be...humourous?"

CSL 10-29-2009 02:27 PM

Hogan controlled a crowd like no other though. Way before sing along catchphrases were around, Hogan was controlling crowds with his facials, mannerisms, selling, the earcupping, the posing. He also schooled The Rock at WM X8

Testicle 10-29-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 2792752)
I personally hated the WHAT? promos.


DaBrasko 10-29-2009 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcmoorehead (Post 2793084)
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Forgot how good Austin's promos were, this is def one of my favourites.

LOL I would love to know how the idea for this came about.:lol:

DaBrasko 10-29-2009 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2793261)
Hogan controlled a crowd like no other though. Way before sing along catchphrases were around, Hogan was controlling crowds with his facials, mannerisms, selling, the earcupping, the posing. He also schooled The Rock at WM X8


Lord knows I always payed attention when I received a Hogan facial.....

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-29-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSLi Manning (Post 2793261)
Hogan controlled a crowd like no other though. Way before sing along catchphrases were around, Hogan was controlling crowds with his facials, mannerisms, selling, the earcupping, the posing. He also schooled The Rock at WM X8

K pull your tongue out of Hogan's ass :p

Hogan was amazing no doubt, but he didn't "school" the rock. For one thing they were in Toronto, bizarro world... another thing is it's not like they want mono-e-mono in promo form. Hogan had not competed at wrestlemania in years...

It wasn't schooling the Rock, it was just the fans acknowledging Hogan's legacy.

CSL 10-29-2009 05:06 PM

I have definitely been on a complete Hogan trip the last few days :D

He took over that match though. After that initial pop/love fest, he could have pulled out the heel schtick and got the crowd right back behind The Rock if he wanted (and Rock tried to make it happen) but he straight up didn't (and even acknowledged so however long afterwards) turning himself face long before the Nash/Hall run-in and put himself in a position where he could show Vince he was viable for another title run, something that wasn't possible a month before when the nWo came back yet wound up happening a month after Mania.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-29-2009 05:07 PM

lol he shouldn't have been a face though. that's unprofessional. But he's Hogan

Nicky Fives 10-29-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWK (Post 2792727)
Stone Cold has absolutely zero on The Rock when it comes to controlling a crowd.

I wouldn't say 0, but Rock was better


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