i hope they keep undertaker off tv
 

i couldnt help but notice that the undertaker hasnt had a wrestling match since wm20. he has only been on tv for 30 seconds. apparently the writers dont know what to do with him. if that is the case, i am glad he is not appearing on television.

IMO they should keep undertaker off tv until they can re-package him. if you still dont feel that his return was a flop, then :nono: . now, some people stated that the complaints about taker's 'new look' were somewhat "quere-eye". the fact is, for that particular wrestler, the look is an important part of the package. at wm20 people were expecting the deadman, and got the biker w/new music+cheesy props. enough on that.

the point im tryin' to make is that i hope they keep taker off tv for a while and then have him re-surface (sometime after the next smackdown ppv) as a heel. THE LORD OF DARKNESS is just the superheel that smackdown needs. an evil undertaker would make a great tormentor for eddie.

it is CLEARLY the wrong era for the undertaker circa '93. there is also an apparent lack of interest in 'bikertaker'. most real wrestling fans agree that the 'lord of darkness' was undertakers best incarnation. it MIGHT still be a valid concept today, and it gives smackdown a mainstream heel, + with the possible rebirth of the MINISTRY, smackdown would have a large heel stable.

I mentioned before Mania that I thought it would be interesting to see what would happen if they promoted house shows in large part around "The Return of the Deadman".

With him not appearing on TV every week, this should be even easier to do. Fans know he's back, but they dont get to see him on TV, so the only way to see him is to go to a live event. It might just create a small spike in house show attendance, which would be great for the company.

Its smart to keep him off TV, because I think everyone agreed that this character would have a very short shelf life. However if he only shows up every few weeks to promote a PPV match, then I think he can last a little longger as a viable character, and again it might increase PPV buys with his limited exposure. It'll be interesting to see what happens with Judgment Day, I'm sure he'll be on the card, and it'll be interesting to see if that can make up for the poor main event.

In terms of turning him heel, I dont think it would work, people like him too much. Plus, I just dont see him doing the right thing for guys like Eddie and Cena.

I would rather see them experiment with this limited exposure thing, and then after it dies out, go back to the Biker babyface Taker.

I say just keep him off... allow him to better his look... and make those occasional returns... and a heel taker would probably be better than a face taker even though everyone likes him too much. At least with a heel taker we have a good heel on SD! besides Bradshaw :roll: and Show :roll:. and he could restart a ministry and with the ministry more heels can be born and some could even rise to bein a big enough heel to actually challenge for the WWE title and the U.S. title cause SD! is definitely low... very low on big heels now.

:rant: :foc:

I think that Undertaker should come back to TV as is, and they should do a promotional Tie-in with the Deadlands RPG and CCG. I've never actually played or tried the games, but I'm sure they've done the zomie cowboy idea before...

ya at first I iked the Undertaker's look at Wrestlemania XX because he was a good mix of the Bad Ass and Deadman. My mind changed after watching his match with Kane at WM XIV. That was his best costume and entrance IMO. I say he either drops the Deadman thing completely or goes back to the WM XIV look caue it rules :y:

I definitely think he should be brought back as a heel but not to reform the Ministry, instead team him up with The Big Show again as his mentor, I enjoyed that angle and it was cut very short.

I wonder if some of this had to do with Paul Heyman leaving SmackDown? Taker had tombstoned Heyman, sold the neck injury through RAW saying he was gonna deal with him, then quit after getting picked. So i wonder if changing Heymans plans changed Takers plans.

Nah, Taker was going to be programmed with Brock, but Brock quit, so they had no back-up plan for Taker.

What they should have done was put Taker with Vince. Taker should want revenge for Vinc ebeating him at Buried Alive. They could do a Casket Match to go along with the gimmick change, and have Taker win. That wya Taker gets a high profile (and dominating) win, and none of the top guys get hurt by it.

Another idea would be to bring Steiner over to SD when he gets healthy, give him a small push, and then have him go after Taker. Steiner is pretty much finished so why not have him squashed by Taker?

Yea, I cant really think of any way to use Taker. The whole thing of him being the dead man was because of Kane. Now since him and Kane went agaisnt each other there really seems no point in it anymore.

youre right. people like him. so dont you think people want to see him on tv.
i think its smart to keep him off tv because the 'new undertaker' sucks and he has no place on smackdown. however, they wont be doing THE FANS any favors by limiting his exposure to house shows and ppvs. that's absurd.

remember all the hype?!? ON MARCH 14 AT WM20 THE DEAD WILL RISE AGAIN!!!!!!! seriously....what have they delivered. a five minute match at wm20 and a 30 second television spot. :nono:
undertaker fans are the real losers here. :nono:

<font color=Silver>So far, I havent been dissapointed in the Deadman's return :) </font>

Some of you might be familiar with the game EWR ( a wrestling promoter sim ).Anyway, on the boards at .400 studios I'm doing a diary and one of the featured storylines is a feud between Big Show and Undetaker where Show is trying to destroy the "myth of the Deadman" in order to prove that he deserves another shot at the WWE title. Not that this is a work of art but this segment got a pretty good response:

Backstage, The Big Show is dressed and hurriedly driving off. He gets into his huge black Ford F-150 and starts to leave the arena. As the truck peels out of the driveway, we switch to different camera, one inside the Big Show’s cab, located over his shoulder and giving the audience a good view of where he’s headed. Show is driving like a madman, veering all over the road and mumbling to himself: “It’s not real. It’s just a gimmick. Just a god damned gimmick….” The road is pitch black and in his panic it seems as though Big Show has veered off the main highway. He’s flying aound turns, the truck tires squealing in anger, the engine itself roaring like a wounded animal, when all of a sudden..

Big Show: HOLY CHRIST!!

..there he stands, like the night come alive. Black and pure like onyx. His arms spread. He is Attis on the pine. Christ on the cedar. Odin on the world-ash. The Undertaker. Larger than life and standing in the road. Those unmistakable eyes rolled back into his head.

The Big Show never even tries to slow down…

‘Because I could not stop for Death,
He kindly stopped for me-
The carriage held but just ourselves,
And Immortality.'

The windshield shatters. The trucks begins to spin and the camera goes to static. Moments later, we see Big Show come crawling up an embankment. The Ford is totaled. Show seems unhurt, except for the bloody gash in his forehead. But as he staggers into the road, he notices- we all notice- that there is absolutely no sign of the Undertaker. Show plowed into him going near 80 mph and now it looks like he walked away without a scratch. The Show screams into the night….

Show: DAMN YOU..WHERE ARE YOU??? I KNOW YOU’RE HERE, MARK. IT’S JUST A GIMMICK..IT’S NOT REAL!! THIS IS NOT REAL!!!

Rating: 84%

**FADE TO BLACK**

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To continue my point...the 'Taker could be on TV right now if they could just continue to find ways to get people into the character. Not everyon eliked his new look, but with a good storyline than eventually people will focus on that more than his goofy hat.

Me neither. I mean he's only been on TV for like a combined 20 seconds not counting Mania. I like it. Less Taker= :yes:

hmm. thats wierd. and you like the undertaker, right??
as an undertaker fan, i would be disapointed that he hasnt been on tv since his 'return'.

I've like Taker's new look.

He would look like a fucking cartoon character if he would have went back to old old school taker.

Sorry to disappoint you all.

:p

This is the same writing team that could not fit in Kanyon and Sean O'Haire into a role on Smack Down... something is wrong there.


F'N ridiculous!


I believe this will go down as the biggest waste of talent the wrestling world has ever seen.

Calm down, man. At this point the Undertaker is only as good as his gimmick. His matches aren't going to be great (unlees you're really into no-selling) so if the writers have nothing for him, he's not going to be on TV. I've already posted in this thread at least an example of how the Deadman could be effective. But as far as the "biggest waste of talent, etc..." with RVD and Booker T around, UT may not even be the biggest waste of talent on his own show.

Well the point would be to increase business at house shows and on PPV. Smackdown's ratings have been flat for about a year and a half now, so not having Taker on TV probably wont do much damage. However, if you treat him as a special attraction that people have to pay for, people may actually pay to see him perfrom which will put more money in the WWE's pockets.

Back in the day Hulk Hogan rarely made appearances on TV, and they used to promote him being at house shows and PPvs, as a result he seemed like a special attraction and people were willing to shell out money when they seen his name on the card.

Its not difficult to comprehend.

Yeah, but this isn't back in the day. These days, if you're out of sight, you're out of mind. And how are they supposed to push an UT PPV match without him being on TV regularly? It worked with Kane, but there isn't a plausabile scenario with anyone else.

They really need to include the Taker as a regular part of the Smackdown broadcast, but they need to do something about the direction he's going in. My suggestion (as if i matters) is to have him continue laying out SD heels, until finally trying to do so against a certain somebody, and getting his ass handed to him a little bit. Although I don't know who the certain somebody would be (SD! is a little low on heels), but I do know that it would up their credibility a few notches.

Of course, that will never happen. I don't see a big difference between Austin's previous role on TV and Taker's current role. They don't wrestle on TV, but they bury talent. It's pointless. Maybe UT should go the way of Austin and leave the WWE. I know that I wouldn't mind.

Yeah, sorry I should have been more specific. I was not really talking about the Undertaker in my post. I was raising a point that the WWE could not find great talents such as Kanyon & O'Haire spots. Both of those guys have more charisma than half the people on the current rosters and it is my bet that they could play any role and make it entertaining. And not too mention they can actually wrestle.

The fact that they can't find a role for the Undertaker is just icing on the cake and really shows you just how uncreative the "creative/writing" team really are.

Amen to that.

Seriously people, it's been what, three weeks. The plan was to have him go against Lesnar, and Lesnar buggered off. So you wish they'd have thrown him into a crap storyline with absolutely no preparation? Then you'd have bi</>tched about that instead. Or do you think he should be squashing the entire roster? Then you'd bi</>tch about that. They aren't going to win with some of you folks.

WWE is purposely keeping him off TV so that he'll be a "special attraction" at house shows and random TV appearances. It isn't that he doesn't have an angle to work, it's that they're not GIVING him an angle to work.

It's kinda stupid to keep him off TV ayway, because Smackdown! needs big names as it is.

nuff said

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I don't see the resemblance.

Good mix...90% badass, 10% Old School.

Even though I'm a huge Taker mark, I'm cool with his being off TV for the time being. There's nothing for him to do, and with this current character, occassionally appearing is perfectly fine. It increases the enigma, which is essential, and makes it less likely that fans will grow tired of him more.

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Yeh, i sorf of agree. But i felt that undertaker's current gimmick is good! U guys over here have to realise that no matter what, nobody is gonna change back to their old gimmicks! They are old and so what if they WERE popular.

Get over it dudes. Live with the current taker'.

People aren't pissed that he's not going back to the Old Taker. They're pissed at a lame ass gimmick, and that the WWE deceptively offered something they didn't deliver.

If you don't want to bring back the Dead Man, don't make promises. Don't go at it half assed.

And for God's sake, change his gimmick, the Biker Bad Ass sucks.

Yeah, live with bad and unentertaining gimmicks.

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How do you noe he's bad and unentertaining? When he only got 20 secs on national tv? Are u trying to imply that if another green wrestler makes his debut on tv for 1 min and totally sucked, then he will suck for the rest of his life?

It's funny, you're preaching the opposite based on the same amount of time.

Isn't that a little hypocritical?

Two things:

1--It's Know. Not noe.

2--There is a quote function, so you don't have to rely on the ^^^^ so heavily.

^^^^^ Well said.

^ What?

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lol(felt left out there!)

Im dissapointed with his gimmick personally, i always thought it was way over hyped for his return aswell, it was all to staged and unrealistic IMO. Like somebody said it reminds me of that episode in the simpsons when they brought a new malibu stacy out and all she had was a new hat. That's what really gets me is that they think wwe fans are that f-ucking dumb.

Do you know how stupid he would look in chaps, and those gloves, and that attire, with his short hair?